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Defamation Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 5 February 2013, in the House of Lords.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
743 cc140-210 
Session
2012-13
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Defamation Bill 2012-13. As amended in Grand Committee.
Thursday, 17 January 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0320
Monday, 18 February 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Puttnam | 743 c140 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Puttnam

1: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

“Arbi...

Lord Puttnam | 743 c141 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 1, 24 and 25 and associate myself with those tabled by the ...


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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 743 c141 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I ask those who are leaving the Chamber to, as a courtesy to the noble Lord, do so quie...

Lord Puttnam | 743 cc141-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, four months have passed since Second Reading; two days earlier, on October 7, the Prime...

Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve | 743 c143 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve

1A: After Clause 1, line 9, leave out “in accor...

Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve | 743 cc143-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have put my name to this amendment to Amendment 1, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Putt...

Baroness Boothroyd | 743 c144 (Link to this contribution)

Not at all. The noble Lord has the Floor.

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 cc145-7 (Link to this contribution)

One can see why the other place was so well regulated.

It is essential for the three main p...

Lord Fowler | 743 cc147-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was going to say “Mr Speaker”, but I will not. I do not intend to follow entirely all...

Baroness Boothroyd | 743 cc149-150 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke in the debate on the Leveson report, so I shall certainly not weary the House t...

Lord Faulks | 743 c150 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for those of us who were involved in the Committee stage of the Defamation Bill, this i...

Baroness Hollins | 743 cc150-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as an expert by experience of press abuse, I consulted Hacked Off, the charity that has...

Lord Skidelsky | 743 c151 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have only one point to make. The noble Lord, Lord Lester, said that these amendments ...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 743 cc151-2 (Link to this contribution)

At Second Reading, I devoted most of what I said to the issue of access to justice. I take my hat...

Archbishop of York | 743 cc152-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I apologise that I was not in Grand Committee when the Bill was going through. T...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 743 c153 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support these amendments. I always listen with care when I hear the noble Lord,...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 c153 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that but I think the noble Baroness does not understand what I was saying, whic...

Lord Black of Brentwood | 743 cc153-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should declare an interest as chairman of the Press Standards Board of Finance and ex...

Lord Black of Brentwood | 743 cc154-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is going to happen, and my lawnmower is out in force already. Media lawyers from across the in...

Baroness Jay of Paddington | 743 c155 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Lord, Lord Black, who did not take part in our debat...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 743 cc156-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, how fascinated I have been by this debate. As one of the proposers of the amendment, it...

Baroness Afshar | 743 c157 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will interject on behalf of communities that, for lack of resources, have not been ab...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 743 cc157-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I did not want to pre-empt any other Back-Bench contributions. I declare my interest as...

Lord Puttnam | 743 c159 (Link to this contribution)

I would make one point to the noble Lord, because I think that he is picking unnecessarily at wha...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 743 c160 (Link to this contribution)

I just point out that when I applied for this post, I asked a noble and learned judge what indepe...

Baroness Jay of Paddington | 743 c160 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to get into the detail of this and do not wish to weary the House, but surel...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 743 c160 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is quite right. I have spoken many times to Professor Horgan and to the Irish ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 c160 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend, but—

Countess of Mar | 743 c160 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is Report, and the noble Lord has had his say.

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 c161 (Link to this contribution)

Is my noble friend Lord Hunt is saying that he would oppose any form of statutory underpinning, e...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 743 c161 (Link to this contribution)

Not at all, and I am very grateful to the noble Lord for enabling me to clarify the position. The...

Lord Elton | 743 c161 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before we come to the Front Bench speeches, may I ask for some help for lay Members of ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 743 cc162-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, today’s excellent debate has strong echoes of the occasion on which we first received t...

Lord McNally | 743 cc164-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I always think it is extremely helpful for the courtesy of the House if the Opposition ...

Lord McNally | 743 cc166-9 (Link to this contribution)

Have I said something that I should not have said?

I should like to update noble Lords on s...

Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve | 743 cc169-170 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been a very instructive debate. I think that it has become clear to many of us h...

Lord Puttnam | 743 cc170-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not intend to delay the House any longer than necessary but I would like to make o...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 743 cc171-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

2: After Clause 1, insert the following new ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 743 cc175-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, after that excitement I rise to move Amendment 2 on behalf of my noble friend Lord Brow...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 cc177-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name in support of the amendment, which would reinstate a provision fro...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 743 cc178-180 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support the amendment, but I do so on the basis that the general restriction on...

Archbishop of York | 743 c180 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, want to add a sentence of support to what the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, and ...

Lord Faulks | 743 cc180-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, of course, there is in the Bill a significant hurdle for any claimant, whether a non-na...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 743 cc181-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this short debate. As has been pointed o...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 743 cc182-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have spoken, particularly those who have spoken in support—the ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 743 c183 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

3: After Clause 1, insert the following new ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 743 cc183-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I can be very naughty and thank the House for its support on that Division.

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 cc187-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot support the amendment. One of the difficult things about a Bill like this is t...

Lord Faulks | 743 c188 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with my noble friend Lord Lester. It is possible that the House may remember th...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 743 c188 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support what the noble Lords, Lord Lester and Lord Faulks, have said. I have to admit...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 743 c188 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, while the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, is right to say that costs and early resolution ...

Lord McNally | 743 cc189-190 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am unused to getting such unanimous support from all sides of the House. I am gratefu...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 743 c190 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who contributed to this debate. I reassure the Minister that it was not j...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 c190 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lester of Herne Hill

4: Clause 3, page 2, line 7, leave out “basis” and...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 cc190-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I move Amendment 4 essentially on behalf of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of B...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 743 c191 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of this amendment and do so by adopting the argument put forward by th...

Lord McNally | 743 cc191-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I indeed hope that this will be resolved once and for all. If my noble friend is going ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 cc192-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for his reply. The further the Bill proceeds through this House, th...

Lord Taverne | 743 c193 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Taverne

6: Clause 4, page 2, line 37, leave out “reasonably” and insert...

Lord Taverne | 743 c193 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 7. I have taken no part in Committee. I should explain ...

Baroness Bakewell | 743 cc193-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to Amendments 6, 7 and 9, I declare an interest. I am a member of PEN, the ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 cc194-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government are to be commended for having dropped the checklist in Clause 4 and for...

Viscount Colville of Culross | 743 c195 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 7. I welcome the Government’s amendment to Clause 4. However, if th...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 743 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to make a short point. I wholly agree with what my noble friend Lord Lester said about the...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 743 cc196-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have no amendment in this group but I wish to speak partly in support of Amendments 6...

Lord McNally | 743 cc197-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the contributors to the debate. The noble Lord, Lord Taverne, expresse...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 c199 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the Minister could be referred by his officials to what the noble and learned Lord, Lord ...

Lord McNally | 743 cc199-200 (Link to this contribution)

I shall certainly draw that intervention to the attention of my officials. My briefing poses the ...

Lord Taverne | 743 c200 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I appreciate my noble friend’s determination to give effect to the Flood judgment. I am...

Lord McNally | 743 c201 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McNally

8: Clause 4, page 2, line 38, at end insert—

“(1A) Subjec...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 743 c201 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Phillips of Sudbury

10: Clause 5, page 3, line 9, leave out subsections...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 743 cc201-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there has been an understandable preoccupation thus far with the traditional media, but...

Lord Faulks | 743 cc204-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the law has been struggling for a little while now, both here and across the world, in ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 743 cc205-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have the misfortune to be opposed to the amendment, and I shall try very briefly to e...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 743 cc206-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have not taken part in debates on the Bill so far, so I shall be brief. However, I wa...

Lord Lucas | 743 c208 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a website operator, I urge my noble friend the Minister to take no rubbish from webs...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 743 cc208-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. I particularly thank my nob...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 743 c209 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to those who took part in this debate. I heard what the Minister said but I fear th...

Notes
Correction on 7 February 2013 at 743 c446: in Division No. 1 Lord Noon should have been recorded as voting Content instead of Lord Neill of Bladen.
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