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Growth and Infrastructure Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 30 January 2013, in the House of Lords. The answering member was Baroness Hanham.
Clauses 8 to 13 agreed to. Schedule 3 agreed to. Part 1 of 2.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
742 cc1544-1603 
Session
2012-13
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Growth and Infrastructure Bill 2012-13. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 18 December 2012
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Earl of Lytton | 742 c1544 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Lytton

58: Before Clause 8, insert the following new Clause—

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Earl of Lytton | 742 c1544 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I tabled these amendments as a probing gesture and, I hope, a reasonably friendly one. ...


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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 742 c1544 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a courtesy to the noble Earl, if noble Lords wish to leave the Chamber, may I sugges...

Earl of Lytton | 742 cc1544-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I was saying, I have a professional interest and involvement in the world of compuls...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 742 cc1546-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we should thank the noble Earl, Lord Lytton, for his amendments because he raises an is...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 742 cc1548-9 (Link to this contribution)

First, I join the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, in thanking the noble Earl, Lord Lytton, for explain...

Earl of Lytton | 742 c1549 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord very much for his reply. As I said, my amendments are probing—I ...

Lord Adonis | 742 c1549 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Adonis

59A: Clause 8, page 10, line 31, at end insert—

“(1A) The ...

Lord Adonis | 742 cc1550-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 59B in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Whitake...

Baroness Whitaker | 742 c1552 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to this group of amendments, I declare my interest as president of the Sout...

Baroness Parminter | 742 cc1552-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the deletion of Clause 8 and in so doing I thank my noble friends Lord Greave...

Lord Judd | 742 cc1554-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad to be able to warmly support the noble Baroness, Lady Parminter, for the...

Lord Renton of Mount Harry | 742 cc1558-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest in this matter, as I live in the South Downs National Park; indee...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 742 c1559 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I come to this clause and this group of amendments entirely from an economic perspectiv...

Lord Greaves | 742 cc1560-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some amendments in this group. In view of the discussions that are likely to tak...

Lord Marlesford | 742 c1563 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I put my name to these amendments for very much the reasons put forward by the noble Lo...

Lord Judd | 742 c1563 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord referred to world heritage. I am sure he will be aware that the Lake District, whe...

Lord Marlesford | 742 c1564 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the noble Lord. I hope that the Lake District gets that status. The noble L...

Lord Burnett | 742 c1564 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the House for missing the opening speech of the noble Lord, Lord Adonis,...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 742 cc1564-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had the privilege of representing for many years Exmoor National Park and the Quantoc...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1566 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was looking around the Chamber to check that everyone had finished. Many points have ...

Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 742 c1566 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend but, before she goes into the detail of her speech, I jus...

Baroness Hanham | 742 cc1566-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for that and I apologise to the noble Baroness for not realising that. Ho...

Lord Greaves | 742 c1567 (Link to this contribution)

This is a crucial point. It is clear that they can still put them underground if they wish to, al...

Baroness Hanham | 742 cc1567-8 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot answer the noble Lord’s question. He probably does not really expect me to answer it her...

Lord Adonis | 742 c1568 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness said that the requirement for prior approval will be removed. However, she sti...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1568 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have about another 15 pages in my brief.

Again, referring to the consultation p...

Lord Adonis | 742 c1568 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness referred to conservation areas but did not cite any evidence in respect of nat...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1568 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was citing the reason for the process in conservation areas taking up to two and a ha...

Lord Greaves | 742 c1568 (Link to this contribution)

As I understand it, there are no proposed changes in this legislation to conservation areas. I de...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1568 (Link to this contribution)

I am citing conservation areas that in many cases are in urban areas and have held up some of the...

Lord Greaves | 742 c1569 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the Minister would write to me on that, as she does not have the answer. I asked...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1569 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I understand it, the rules in conservation areas are not to be changed.

Under ...

Lord Judd | 742 c1569 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness turns to the amendments, perhaps I may ask her a question. I have great...

Earl Attlee | 742 c1569 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I remind noble Lords that we are in Committee. Noble Lords may speak as many times as t...

Lord Judd | 742 c1570 (Link to this contribution)

I assure the Committee that I will not repeat what I have already said, in spite of what we have ...

Baroness Hanham | 742 cc1570-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am beginning to feel like a jack-in- the-box. I hope that I do not look like one, but...

Lord Adonis | 742 c1571 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are very grateful to the noble Baroness for giving us so much detail as to how the r...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1573 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, we need some speed to get this done. As the noble Lord will know, so far there h...

Lord Adonis | 742 c1573 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that does not meet the point at all. The evidence which the national parks have given t...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 c1573 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend responds to that, I wonder whether the noble Lord, Lord Adonis, has taken ...

Lord Adonis | 742 c1573 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not sure whether the noble Lord was present for my opening speech, but I pointed o...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 742 c1573 (Link to this contribution)

Is there not a serious point in what the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, has just read out? The noble Lo...

Earl of Lytton | 742 c1574 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the Committee for intervening now; I thought that I would intervene earlier but fe...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1574 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl. I will make sure that that is considered and give him ...

Lord Adonis | 742 c1574 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is always good to try to be constructive. Given the scale of the concern that has be...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1574 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord knows that I am always happy to have meetings that are relevant to the l...

Lord Adonis | 742 c1574 (Link to this contribution)

I very much welcome that commitment from the noble Baroness. I hope that Mr Boles will also be pr...

Baroness Parminter | 742 c1575 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may ask the Minister to address an issue that was not fully responded to in her reply—a...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1575 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for overlooking that. The proposal is that the code should not be statutory...

Lord Greaves | 742 cc1575-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I could ask again: if everything goes well with a particular proposal and notif...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1576 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with regard to the latter point made by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, this was a discus...

Lord Judd | 742 c1576 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that she was willing to consult, which is encouraging. Can she say a little bit...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1576 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sure that that is worthy of an amendment on Report. I am sure that they will be ex...

Lord Judd | 742 c1576 (Link to this contribution)

But it is highly relevant to this legislation, because that is a cost to be borne in mind when a ...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1576 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that we will not take that any further.

Lord Adonis | 742 c1577 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the basis that the Minister is content to meet the chief executives of the national ...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1577 (Link to this contribution)

I am content to meet their representatives. If we confine ourselves to chief executives, they may...

Lord Adonis | 742 c1577 (Link to this contribution)

On that basis, my Lords, after an hour and 48 minutes, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

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Baroness Whitaker | 742 c1577 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Baroness Whitaker

59C: Clause 8, page 10, line 31, at end insert—

“( ...

Baroness Whitaker | 742 c1577 (Link to this contribution)

On the basis of the discussion of consultation, I shall not move the amendment.

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 c1577 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Jenkin of Roding

60: After Clause 8, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 cc1578-1580 (Link to this contribution)

With the agreement of my noble friend Lord Tope, in whose name the amendment has been tabled, I w...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 742 cc1580-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to the amendment, which we enthusiastically support. We should tha...

Lord Shipley | 742 cc1581-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to this amendment I first declare that I am a vice-president of the Local G...

Lord Smith of Leigh | 742 cc1582-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must follow the noble Lord’s compliments to Greater Manchester by speaking at this po...

Lord Greaves | 742 cc1583-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to follow the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Leigh, because outside Greater Lon...

Lord Beecham | 742 c1585 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on behalf of the city of Newcastle, I disavow any territorial ambitions in relation to ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 c1585 (Link to this contribution)

I ought to put on record—I do not think that the noble Lord will disagree—that there were some ar...

Lord Beecham | 742 cc1585-6 (Link to this contribution)

Liverpool was in many minds at that time. The noble Lord and I perhaps shared a view about Liverp...

Lord Greaves | 742 c1586 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was not my point at all. My point is that people who live in big cities think that...

Lord Beecham | 742 c1587 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with that. What would be a concern would be the individual smallish councils in an area e...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 742 c1587 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I first thank all noble Lords who have participated in this debate. I noted that my nob...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 742 c1587 (Link to this contribution)

Dare I say it? HS2 may well also assist.

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 742 cc1587-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that the city deal has. I was concerned by the suggestion of the noble Lord, Lord Greav...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 c1589 (Link to this contribution)

I think that my noble friend did indeed smile. He has given us a very fair and encouraging report...

Lord Shipley | 742 c1590 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Shipley

60A: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—

“P...

Lord Shipley | 742 cc1590-1 (Link to this contribution)

In moving Amendment 60A, I shall also speak to Amendments 60B and 60C, as well as Amendments 71 a...

Lord Beecham | 742 cc1591-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support these amendments. It seems contrary to the whole thrust of the Local...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 742 cc1592-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, pointed out, Amendment 71A in this group, which stands...

Baroness Hanham | 742 cc1593-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was rather a quick ending. I am grateful for this short debate, which I thought mi...

Lord Greaves | 742 c1594 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister used the word “small” in reference to extensions. Does she understand and ...

Baroness Hanham | 742 c1594 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I appreciate that proposals and applications for extensions will always be different be...

Lord Shipley | 742 c1594 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her detailed reply. She may be right to say that there will be...

Lord Greaves | 742 cc1594-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Greaves

60D: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—

“N...

Lord Greaves | 742 c1596 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment would add a new clause after Clause 12, headed “Notification of Parish Co...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 742 c1596 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I look forward to the Minister’s reply but, on the face of it, these amendments seem en...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 742 cc1597-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I absolutely agree with my noble friend that it is very important that parish councils ...

Earl of Lytton | 742 c1598 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare interests as the president of the National Association of Local Councils and ...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 742 c1598 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sure that there are instances where that is the case. For completeness, it may be ...

Lord Greaves | 742 c1598 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply and should be grateful to receive a copy of his lett...

Lord Greaves | 742 c1598 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Greaves

61: Clause 13, page 15, line 26, after “must” insert—

“(a...

Lord Greaves | 742 cc1599-1600 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 62 and 63. This group also contains a couple of amendm...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 742 c1601 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have Amendments 63A and 63B in this group. I should start by thanking the noble Lord...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 742 c1601 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this group of amendments on a very important issue. I will make a perhaps sli...

Baroness Hanham | 742 cc1602-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in responding to the noble Lords, Lord Greaves and Lord McKenzie, it may be helpful if ...

Lord Greaves | 742 c1603 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for that detailed response and for the Minister’s comments. I am also gra...

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