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Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 9 January 2013, in the House of Lords.
Clauses 51 to 56 agreed to, with clauses 52 and 53 agreed to as amended. Schedule 16 agreed to. Schedule 17 agreed to as amended. New clause under consideration when the Committee adjourned.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
742 cc31-96GC 
Session
2012-13
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill 2012-13. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 18 October 2012
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0229
Monday, 4 February 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0349
Monday, 25 February 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Skelmersdale | 742 c31GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber, the Committee will adjourn for 10 minutes.

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c31GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

26EA: Clause 51, page 44, line 36, at end insert...


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Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc31-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope it will be thought appropriate that before discussing the first amendment, we sh...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 cc33-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson of Balmacara, for his generous and though...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c35GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his comments. I note in respect of the first amendment that, w...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c35GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

26F: Clause 52, page 47, leave out lines 25 and 26 a...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 cc35-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, government Amendment 26F addresses a recommendation made by the Delegated Powers and Re...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc36-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at this stage, I would have expected—and the Committee might have welcomed—my noble fri...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c37GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

26G: Clause 53, page 52, line 14, leave out “the app...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 cc37-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I am sorry to hear that the noble Baroness, Lady Andrews, is indisposed. I very ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c38GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be brief about this. My notes from the noble Baroness, Lady Andrews, confirm th...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c38GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

26H: Clause 53, page 52, leave out lines 15 to 18 an...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c38GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

26M: Schedule 17, page 239, line 38, at end insert—<...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c39GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, government Amendments 26M and 26N make minor and technical changes to Schedule 17 to th...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c39GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

26N: Schedule 17, page 242, line 36, at end insert—<...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c39GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

26P: Schedule 17, page 242, line 37, leave out parag...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 cc39-40GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, government Amendment 26P changes the procedure for making a national class consent orde...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc40-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are pleased with the amendment and grateful to the Minister for his contextual words...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

Of course I will write to the noble Lord along the lines that he suggests.

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 742 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton

27: Clause 56, page 54, line 40, leave out par...

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 742 cc41-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must declare an interest, having been a founding commissioner of the Equality and Hum...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 742 cc44-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recently put my name down to this amendment at the instance of the TUC. It is one of ...

Lord Low of Dalston | 742 cc45-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I put my name to this amendment because I do not support the removal of the commission’...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 742 cc48-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support Amendment 27 and associate myself with the noble Baroness, Lady Campbel...

Baroness Whitaker | 742 cc49-50GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support what the noble Baroness has just said. One of the first things that I...

Lord Wigley | 742 c50GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad of the opportunity to intervene briefly in this debate and should declar...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 742 cc50-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the mover of the amendment that I was not present when she spoke. I shal...

Baroness Whitaker | 742 c51GC (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord think that there is no place at all in the whole of statute for aspirational ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 742 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

My difficulty is that I cannot see what is added in Section 3 to what is mentioned in the other s...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 742 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is very seldom indeed that I disagree with my noble friend Lord Lester. I call him m...

Lord Ouseley | 742 cc52-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell, on moving this amendment and o...

Lord Morris of Handsworth | 742 cc53-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, one of the disadvantages of being around as long as I have is that you observe the tide...

Baroness Greengross | 742 cc54-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I appreciate the passion and commitment that my noble friend Lady Campbell brought to t...

Baroness Hollins | 742 cc55-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, despite the legal view presented by the noble Lord, Lord Lester, I refer us back to som...

Baroness Prosser | 742 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I did not intend to speak in this debate, but I have been fired up by comments made. I ...

Baroness Thornton | 742 cc56-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is significant that it has taken an hour and 10 minutes to get to this point. Noble ...

Lord Deben | 742 c58GC (Link to this contribution)

Can I not ask the noble Baroness to go a bit further than that? For that comment by the Secretary...

Baroness Thornton | 742 c58GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes an absolutely perfect point; I wish I had made it myself. I have two final p...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 cc58-62GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an important and impassioned debate. I must say that, from the conversati...

Baroness Thornton | 742 c62GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister provide the Committee with a financial breakdown of exactly how the cuts to the...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c62GC (Link to this contribution)

I think that it would be easier for me to provide that in a follow-up letter subsequent to today’...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c62GC (Link to this contribution)

I add that I hope that very soon—indeed, imminently—we will publish the budget that the Governmen...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 742 c62GC (Link to this contribution)

Since the Minister has been kind enough to refer to me, perhaps I may say to her that I hope it i...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c63GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. I hoped that I had said that in my remarks concluding that the p...

Baroness Thornton | 742 c63GC (Link to this contribution)

If I were the noble Lord, Lord Lester, I might be slightly worried about this. Perhaps the Minist...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c63GC (Link to this contribution)

They are separate because the public sector equality duty review, which we will debate when we co...

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 742 cc63-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her genuine attempt to understand and respond to all our argum...

Lord Geddes | 742 c64GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before putting the Question for withdrawal, it may be helpful to the Grand Committee if...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 742 c64GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Deputy Chairman of Committees for that, but perhaps I may also say that advice was ta...

Lord Geddes | 742 c64GC (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, so my predecessor told me, but since then we have had the great advantage of electronic c...

Lord Wigley | 742 c64GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before we leave that point, it would be very helpful if the Annunciator could keep up w...

Lord Geddes | 742 c64GC (Link to this contribution)

With great respect to the noble Lord, that is known as the art of keen anticipation, which I lear...

Baroness Thornton | 742 c65GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

28ZB: After Clause 56, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Thornton | 742 cc65-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hussein-Ece, and the noble Lords, Lord Low and Lord Cr...

Lord Low of Dalston | 742 cc67-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment, which has been ably moved by the noble Baroness. As a minimum...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 742 cc68-70GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, have put my name to this amendment to move towards greater direct parliamentary...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 742 cc69-72GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sympathetic to the object of the amendment. I just want to supplement that great s...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 742 c72GC (Link to this contribution)

I want to come back on one point, if I may. In 2003 the Joint Human Rights Committee had three re...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 742 cc72-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I was talking about an idea that I thought was being suggested—not that there be some kind of con...

Lord Deben | 742 c73GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as somebody who is also very sympathetic to the purpose of the amendments, I follow my ...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 cc73-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the opportunity to have this debate about the accountability of the c...

Lord Low of Dalston | 742 c75GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, would she reply to the point made by the Joint Committee on Human ...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c75GC (Link to this contribution)

The simplest response that I can offer the noble Lord, Lord Low, is that we are in active dialogu...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 742 c76GC (Link to this contribution)

I was the one who above all raised the issue of the Paris principles in relation to the setting u...

Baroness Thornton | 742 cc76-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister and my supporters, the noble Lord, Lord Low, and the noble Baroness, Lady Hu...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c77GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for allowing me to come back to her in writing on the questio...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 742 c77GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may add that the independence requirements that we wrote in were used by some at staff ...

Baroness Thornton | 742 c77GC (Link to this contribution)

I was not making that point at all but I absolutely agree with the noble Lord. The remarks of the...

Baroness Thornton | 742 cc77-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

28ZC: After Clause 56, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Thornton | 742 cc78-80GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, two of the strongest indications to date that the Government may be rowing back on the ...

Lord Low of Dalston | 742 c80GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have already expressed my concern about the signs of the Government rowing back from ...

Lord Deben | 742 cc80-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a different view about this. I will try to express it in the way that one does a...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 742 cc82-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that it is true to say that there have been unintended consequences in the way ...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 cc83-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the debate on this amendment. It might be worth saying for the record...

Baroness Thornton | 742 cc84-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her remarks and, indeed, I am also mindful of wanting to make progress. ...

Baroness Thornton | 742 c85GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

28ZD: After Clause 56, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Thornton | 742 cc85-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving this amendment I declare an interest as the Minister partly responsible, alon...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 742 cc87-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in supporting the amendment, I remind noble Lords that when Section 9(5)(a) first came ...

Lord Avebury | 742 cc89-92GC (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, for her sterling work in getting Section 9(5)...

Lord Deben | 742 cc91-3GC (Link to this contribution)

This is not a repeat of the same cast on this subject—I did not mean that and I beg noble Lords’ ...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 cc93-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had another powerful debate and the speeches have clearly been impassioned and ...

Baroness Thornton | 742 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may ask the noble Baroness—

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

I will finish the point that I was about to make. It is not that the legislation would catch all ...

Baroness Thornton | 742 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

My point relates to “disproportionate”. We have legislated in our discrimination law about Travel...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness makes a helpful point in drawing a comparison with Gypsies and Travellers. It ...

Lord Deben | 742 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

As the Minister referred specifically to me, I will say that I have great difficulty with “propor...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c95GC (Link to this contribution)

I understand the point that my noble friend makes, but it takes us back to the point about eviden...

Lord Avebury | 742 c95GC (Link to this contribution)

I am so sorry to interrupt the Minister again; I know that she has been very patient. However, if...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c95GC (Link to this contribution)

In simple terms, the protected characteristics are characteristics that we all share; we all have...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 742 c95GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has quoted a couple of times from the report to the effect that it was not clear tha...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 742 c96GC (Link to this contribution)

Without the full facts of the case, I am afraid that it is not possible for me to respond to an i...

Baroness Thornton | 742 c96GC (Link to this contribution)

I say a big thank you to the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries, and the noble Lord, Lor...

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