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Financial Services Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 20 November 2012, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Skelmersdale.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
740 cc1731-1779 
Session
2012-13
Department
Treasury
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 740 c1775 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that response. I have a query that is not so much on the website. I thin...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1775 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Sassoon

78: Clause 15, page 70, line 8, leave out paragraph (c) and ins...


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Lord Flight | 740 c1775 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Flight

78A: Clause 15, page 70, line 15, at end insert—

“( ) For ...

Lord Flight | 740 c1775 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 78A and 79A are supported by the Listing Authority Advisory Committee to the...

Lord Northbrook | 740 c1775 (Link to this contribution)

I support my noble friend Lord Flight’s amendment. It is important that in this area the FCA shou...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1775-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 77A and 79A would reinstate an existing “have regard” that applies to the FS...

Lord Flight | 740 c1777 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for the comfort on this point. I am aware that the London Stock Ex...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1777 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sassoon

79: Clause 15, page 70, line 18, at end insert—

“( ) In s...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 740 cc1777-8 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

79AA: Clause 17, page 75, line 7, at end ins...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 740 c1778 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we reach the last amendment of the evening, which stands in the names of my noble frien...

Lord Newby | 740 cc1778-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, no one disagrees with the proposition that certain important reports and other document...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 740 c1779 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that answer and, via the Minister, I thank his Bill team becau...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1758-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sassoon

73A: After Clause 9, insert the following new Clause—

“Ap...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1759-1761 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, noble Lords have to hear me again for just a little longer, although I will not speak a...

Lord Flight | 740 c1761 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to ask the Minister some questions about the transfer of the regulation of the p...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 740 cc1762-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his helpful introductory remarks, and the Bill team for lettin...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1764-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for one or two focused questions on this. First, I repeat what I...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 740 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, may I press the Minister on the point that I made earlier in my remarks about receiving...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was referring to people working on the transitional arrangements that come out of thi...

Lord Eatwell | 740 c1766 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Eatwell

73B: Clause 10, page 47, line 32, at end insert—

“( ) The...

Lord Eatwell | 740 cc1766-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 73B reflects a concern that we have expressed at numerous stages in the discu...

Lord Newby | 740 c1767 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I said in Committee when we debated this issue, we are extremely sympathetic to what...

Lord Eatwell | 740 cc1767-8 (Link to this contribution)

That is rather complacent. If the noble Lord thinks that the FSA provides clear guidance at the m...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1768 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sassoon

74: Clause 10, page 47, line 35, after “in” insert “or specifie...

Lord Flight | 740 c1768 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Flight

75A: Clause 10, page 49, line 23, after “FCA” insert “, which sh...

Lord Flight | 740 cc1768-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 75A to 75G and Amendment 77 relate to Clause 10 and Amendment 77B relates to...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1769-1770 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 75A to 75G, tabled by my noble friend Lord Flight, would remove the requirem...

Lord Flight | 740 c1770 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is highly important that it should be absolutely clear that there will be one applic...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1770 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sassoon

76: Clause 10, page 56, line 9, leave out “expires” and insert ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 740 c1770 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

77AA: Clause 11, page 65, line 22, at end in...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 740 c1771 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment stands in the name of my noble friend Lord Eatwell and myself. It relate...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 740 c1771 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am generally sympathetic to Amendment 77AA, but what would the consequences be of a b...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 740 cc1771-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was struck by my noble friend’s amendment. In reading it, I wondered whether this was...

Lord Newby | 740 c1772 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think everyone is agreed that the regulators should require banks to make their custo...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 740 c1772 (Link to this contribution)

Did I hear the noble Lord say that it is a requirement from regulators that banks should notify t...

Lord Newby | 740 cc1772-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I was saying, the regulators make considerable existing requirements in this area an...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 740 c1773 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has read out the text of the communication which banks in this country must make t...

Lord Newby | 740 c1773 (Link to this contribution)

I will check what I said, but it may have covered what the noble Lord is looking for. If it does ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 740 c1773 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry that the Minister did not listen to what I said, which was the reverse of pa...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 740 cc1773-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

77AB: Clause 12, page 67, line 12, at end in...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 740 c1774 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment stands in the name of my noble friend Lord Eatwell as well as mine. It i...

Lord Newby | 740 cc1774-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Baroness says, we discussed this at some length in Committee and, to a cer...

Lord Peston | 740 c1745 (Link to this contribution)

All I was saying was I thought that the Bill team, when we met them, told us that these amendment...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1745-6 (Link to this contribution)

I tried to make that clear in my opening remarks, but let me have another go. We have a serious L...

Lord Eatwell | 740 c1746 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was waiting to deal with the scope of Amendment 71. I entirely understand that the pa...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1746 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Eatwell, asked the question very clearly earlier. If he would give me anothe...

Lord Eatwell | 740 cc1746-7 (Link to this contribution)

That is very helpful. But I still think that the language is not clear. A derivative instrument m...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1747-8 (Link to this contribution)

Again, to an extent the noble Lord, Lord Eatwell, pre-empts what I was going to say. First, let m...

Lord Peston | 740 c1748 (Link to this contribution)

The answer is that it is. It is a price index, and all price indexes are derived from markets bec...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1748 (Link to this contribution)

The definition of “benchmark”, as we have already been through, has a number of legs to it, the f...

Lord Peston | 740 c1748 (Link to this contribution)

Am I right, therefore, that anybody looking at the Bill would not know that it had anything to do...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1748-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the problem that we are trying to deal with is that it has been revealed this summer th...

Baroness Noakes | 740 c1749 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend. I know he wants to get on to the rest of the interesting...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1749-1750 (Link to this contribution)

As I said in response to the noble Lord, Lord Eatwell, I will look again. I believe that, as I ha...

Lord Eatwell | 740 c1750 (Link to this contribution)

As we are in Committee, it might be helpful to take questions as we go along. It would be enormou...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1750 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we risk comparing two totally different sorts of animal here. The measurement of prices...

Lord Barnett | 740 c1751 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt, but I am trying very hard to understand where we are getting to. I under...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1751 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there has been consultation on these clauses already. These clauses, which were publish...

Lord Eatwell | 740 c1751 (Link to this contribution)

That is very helpful and I am grateful to the Minister. What would happen then when the administr...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1752 (Link to this contribution)

If I ever get to the amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Eatwell, we will get to that ...

Baroness Kramer | 740 c1752 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of clarification about the offences, I fully understand that with LIBOR, which is a Lo...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1753 (Link to this contribution)

I would never accuse any noble Lord, least of all my noble friend, of ever getting muddled, other...

Lord Eatwell | 740 c1753 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister leaves the issue of offences, I asked a question about the exemptions around ...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1753 (Link to this contribution)

I have some understanding, but I am a non-lawyer and it was a long time ago so it is only slight....

Lord Barnett | 740 c1753 (Link to this contribution)

I asked the Minister whether the criminal sanctions could be used retrospectively against those w...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1753 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me; I thought I did answer. It is an absolute principle that we do not put in place retro...

Lord Peston | 740 c1754 (Link to this contribution)

I take it that the people who have already behaved in a criminal way can be prosecuted under the ...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1754-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. As I have answered before in Questions on the LIBOR issue and as...

Lord Eatwell | 740 c1755 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister; that is very clear and helpful. My only question arising from that is wheth...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1755 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, my Lords, I am confident that the FCA, on the risk approach that it takes to preparing itsel...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1756 (Link to this contribution)

They will have another opportunity very shortly because I am afraid I will be introducing the nex...

Lord Eatwell | 740 c1756 (Link to this contribution)

I said quite a lot about it, so perhaps I could remind the noble Lord.

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1756 (Link to this contribution)

It has suddenly come back to me; it was just a momentary lapse. The noble Lord spoke about the me...

Lord Eatwell | 740 cc1756-7 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has completely misinterpreted what I said and apparently has not read Amendment 80...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1757-8 (Link to this contribution)

I may not have expressed myself clearly but I was entirely clear that that is the purpose of the ...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1758 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sassoon

71: Clause 7, page 43, line 34, after “(1A),” insert—

“( ...

Lord Skelmersdale | 740 c1731 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before calling the first amendment, I must remind noble Lords that the House has agreed...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1731 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sassoon

70: Clause 7, page 43, line 33, at end insert “, or

(b) t...

Lord Sassoon | 740 cc1731-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel that I should warn you that my remarks on this group will be longer and more det...

Lord Eatwell | 740 cc1732-1740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on this side of the House broadly support the conclusions of the Wheatley report and...

Baroness Kramer | 740 cc1737-1742 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an important piece of legislation, and I very much welcome it. I think that thi...

Lord Barnett | 740 cc1742-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this debate began with the clear statement that we should abide by Committee-stage rule...

Lord Barnett | 740 c1743 (Link to this contribution)

That is apart from my noble friend Lady Hayter. I am not a lawyer, but even if I were what would ...

Lord Peston | 740 cc1744-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my contribution is also entirely interrogative. I have a lot of questions. I shall put ...

Baroness Noakes | 740 c1745 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I ask my noble friend a simple question, for which I apologise for not having given him...

Lord Sassoon | 740 c1745 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was rather getting into the swing of this. I have never had so many questions in such...

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