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Groceries Code Adjudicator Bill [HL] Report

Debate on bills on Monday, 16 July 2012, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Browne of Ladyton.
Bill, as amended, order to be printed (HL Bill 37)
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Parliamentary proceeding
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2012-13
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Report stage
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House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c12 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Browne of Ladyton

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 3, leave out “There is to b...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 cc12-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I explained on the first day in Committee, having set out to legislate in language t...


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Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c13 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this side is entirely supportive of my noble friend’s amendment. I simply ask the Minis...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c13 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the issue of plain English was raised at Second Reading. It was revisited at some lengt...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c13 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope I do not spoil the achievement of having the Government accept this amendment, b...

Lord Grantchester | 739 c14 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Grantchester

2: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

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Lord Grantchester | 739 cc14-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my farming interests on the register. In moving Amendment 2, I am also speaki...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 739 cc15-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I first declare my interest as a farmer. I put my name to the amendment because it is i...

Lord Whitty | 739 c16 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendment 31 is in this group. I apologise to the Minister and the House that I was ...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc16-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand that the noble Lord, Lord Grantchester, is eager to see a living code that...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c18 (Link to this contribution)

I am struggling with the Minister’s argument that the amendment in my name and the names of other...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c18 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that I have not been too wordy in my response. It is just that there was a real point of p...

Lord Whitty | 739 c18 (Link to this contribution)

We accept that the primacy of the competition authorities in these amendments could be clearer an...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c19 (Link to this contribution)

I am always nervous arguing with the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, given his experience as a Minister ...

Lord Grantchester | 739 c19 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we agree that the code is a responsibility for the OFT—that is not in dispute—but we be...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c19 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Knight of Weymouth

3: Schedule 1, page 11, line 8, at end insert “, sub...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 cc19-23 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Grantchester relates to the r...

Lord Borrie | 739 c23 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my Front-Bench spokesman who has just introduced this amendment. I hope I am ...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 739 c23 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not so certain about this amendment—in fact, I think that I oppose it. If your Lor...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c24 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I get any further I would like to thank the noble Lord, Lord Cameron, for suppor...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c24 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Cameron, clearly has a relatively low opinion of MPs, which may be...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c24 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Browne of Ladyton

4: Schedule 1, page 13, line 24, leave out “Office of...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 cc24-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the effect of this group of amendments is to anticipate the passing into law of the Ent...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc25-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the amendments tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Browne, I appreciate that the Competit...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c26 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for responding to my amendments in what I suspect is the ...

Lord Whitty | 739 cc26-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

6: Clause 2, page 1, line 11, at end insert—

“(3) If a tra...

Lord Whitty | 739 c27 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment goes back to the basic problem about the relations within the food supply...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 cc27-30 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to the amendment standing in my name, which seeks to insert a mechanism fo...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc29-33 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, and the noble Lord, Lord Browne, for these amendme...

Lord Whitty | 739 c33 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for making clear the distinction between a complaint leading to an...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c33 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Howard of Rising

8: Clause 4, page 2, line 13, at end insert—

“( ...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 cc33-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 8, I shall speak also to Amendments 19 and 20. Before so doing, I d...

Lord Razzall | 739 c34 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the problem with the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Howard of Rising, is that when w...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 739 c34 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too am not convinced by any of these amendments, and I support the noble Lord, Lord R...

Lord Plumb | 739 cc34-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise for the first time after something like an hour and a half of debate. I am very ...

Lord Whitty | 739 c35 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief because the noble Lord, Lord Plumb, has spelt it out. It would be extra...

Viscount Eccles | 739 cc35-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, following on from the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, I do not understand,

“information ...

Lord Borrie | 739 c36 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Viscount, Lord Eccles, seems to have forgotten that the whole requirement in this Bill ...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c36 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was ready to give an impassioned speech to try to persuade the noble Lord, Lord Howar...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc36-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the question of who should be able to complain to the adjudicator has been discussed ex...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c37 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her remarks and all other noble Lords who have spoken. I just want to po...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c37 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Wilcox

9: Schedule 2, page 14, line 20, leave out from “requires” t...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c37 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in Committee my noble friend Lady Byford raised an important question about when the ad...

Lord Plumb | 739 c38 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend the Minister on what she has just said. I know that her ...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c38 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Browne of Ladyton

10: Clause 5, page 2, line 21, at end insert “; and

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 cc38-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clauses 4 to 10 govern how the adjudicator should conduct investigations and carry out ...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c39 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to Amendment 11, which is grouped with Amendment 10, the sensible amendment of ...

Viscount Eccles | 739 c39 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not wish to repeat the arguments made in Committee but I support these two amendme...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c39 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the Minister speaks I should perhaps indicate—for the purpose of the record—that...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc39-40 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I said in Committee, the reports that the adjudicator must publish at the end of eac...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c40 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am overwhelmed by the scale of my success this afternoon. I suspect I may retire from...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c40 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Knight of Weymouth

11A: Clause 6, page 2, line 31, at end insert “which...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 cc40-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we consider Amendments 15 and 18 to be consequential to Amendment 11A and therefore, if...

Baroness Randerson | 739 c43 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am surprised at the noble Lord’s ferocity on this given the record of the previous Go...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 739 c44 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I put my name to Amendment 15 because I am very much in favour of the immediate applica...

Lord Borrie | 739 cc44-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Lord, Lord Cameron. He has made a clear case and, of...

Bishop of Newcastle | 739 c45 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, would prefer to have fines in the Bill from the outset, because I believe, like...

Lord Plumb | 739 c45 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been very impressed with what I have heard. I did not expect that there would be...

Lord Whitty | 739 cc45-6 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, support this amendment. It seems to me that this clause as it stands, combined with Sched...

Duke of Montrose | 739 c46 (Link to this contribution)

Is part of the purpose of the adjudicator that the disadvantaged person should not be identified?...

Lord Whitty | 739 c46 (Link to this contribution)

The person is not necessarily unidentified; that depends on the supplier. I know that those argum...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c46 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, contrary to what has been said by some this afternoon, naming and shaming is a genuine ...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc46-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not want anyone to think we are lukewarm. We introduced this Bill as a priority an...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c49 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there we have it. The Minister started off by saying she was not lukewarm but then spok...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c49 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Howard of Rising

13: Clause 6, page 2, line 31, at end insert—

“(...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c49 (Link to this contribution)

Both this amendment and Amendment 14 deal with appeals. The Minister was gracious enough in Commi...

Lord Plumb | 739 c49 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can assure you that my noble friend Lord Howard really is a noble friend, although in...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c53 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, out of consistency I support the noble Lord, Lord Howard of Rising, in Amendment 14. I ...

Lord Borrie | 739 cc53-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there is a “naming and shaming” proposal from the adjudicator, according to Clause 8...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc54-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the question of appeals is important and I can fully understand the desire of my noble ...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c55 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her remarks. I accept that the High Court would be as good a place as th...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c56 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Wilcox

16: Schedule 3, page 15, line 9, leave out paragraphs 4 and ...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c56 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the question of financial penalties has been central to our deliberations on the Bill. ...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c57 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for the concession which results from our debate in...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c57 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to answer the noble Lord’s question. Fines can be introduced within six months or ...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c57 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Howard of Rising

21: Clause 11, page 4, line 13, leave out “may” and in...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c57 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments is aimed at making it compulsory for the adjudicator to give a...

Lord True | 739 cc57-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intervened briefly in Grand Committee to support my noble friend on part of the amend...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc58-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have sympathy for the spirit of all three amendments. On Amendments 21 and 22, we cer...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c59 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for her remarks, disappointing as they are. Of course, the p...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c59 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Wilcox

23: Clause 12, page 4, line 30, at end insert—

“( ) If...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c59 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Wilcox

28: Clause 14, page 5, line 16, at end insert—

“( ) Th...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 c59 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to propose government Amendment 28. I am sure that noble Lords will agree,...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c60 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am going to mark this one down as a victory for us as we moved a very similar amendme...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c60 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Knight of Weymouth

30: Clause 16, page 7, line 8, at end insert—

...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 cc60-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment, I shall also speak to Amendments 43 and 44. As we interpret the le...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 739 c61 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am all in favour of sunset clauses for quangos and for posts that are created. I beli...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc61-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I fully understand the sentiments behind these amendments. All three parties have expre...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c62 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was a brief but interesting debate. I am most grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Cam...

Lord True | 739 c62 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord True

32: Transpose Clause 17 to after Clause 18

Lord True | 739 cc62-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have taken the unusual step of tabling an amendment to transpose two clauses—the effe...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c65 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend. While he was speaking, I looked through these new italicised...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c65 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I indicated in Committee, I think the noble Lord, Lord True, has a point. At Second ...

Duke of Montrose | 739 c65 (Link to this contribution)

If the Government feel that they need these interrogatory questions put in print, are the Explana...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc65-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord True, for bringing forward this interesting amendment. Whi...

Lord True | 739 cc66-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for that response. Rather like the noble Lord, Lord Browne, I should not ...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c67 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Browne of Ladyton

33: Clause 18, page 7, line 23, after “Adjudicator” i...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 cc67-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if this regime is to work in the way in which all parties in this House intend it to wo...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc69-70 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the adjudicator’s obligation to maintain strict standards of confidentiality is integra...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 739 c70 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for the care that she has again taken to address these is...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c70 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Howard of Rising

38: Clause 19, page 8, line 10, at end insert “, and f...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c70 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment would allow large retailers to be consulted when the levy is set. It seem...

Lord Razzall | 739 c71 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 39, which is in my name. It is of fundamental importance in ...

Lord Teverson | 739 c71 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment. It seems to me natural justice that when retaile...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 739 c71 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am supportive of all the amendments in this group. I suspect that a concession is com...

Baroness Wilcox | 739 cc71-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments tabled by my noble friends Lord Howard of Rising and Lord Eccles are one...

Lord Howard of Rising | 739 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend for indicating that the surplus in one year would be set off aga...

Lord Razzall | 739 c72 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Razzall

39: Clause 19, page 8, line 12, leave out from beginning to “ba...

Lord Razzall | 739 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to thank the noble Baroness for her gracious acceptance of this amendment. I beg to ...

Lord Razzall | 739 c72 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Razzall

40: Clause 19, page 8, line 24, at end insert “(including any c...

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