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Queen's Speech

Queen's speech debate on Thursday, 10 May 2012, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Strathclyde. The answering member was Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.
Lords debate on Queen's speech (second day) on constitutional affairs. (Part 1 of 2)
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
737 cc27-62 
Session
2012-13
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Queen’s Speech
Thursday, 10 May 2012
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Strathclyde | 737 cc28-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased to be able to open the days of debate ahead on the humble Address. I ...

Lord Cormack | 737 c29 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend for giving way. Is he aware that when Tony Blair made his l...


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Lord Strathclyde | 737 c30 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am aware of that. I am particularly impressed that those questions were aimed at thos...

Lord Elton | 737 c30 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, will my noble friend confirm that he is now withdrawing the definition of consensus tha...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c30 (Link to this contribution)

No, my Lords. However, I think that my explanation of a consensus was misunderstood. Any student ...

Lord Crickhowell | 737 c30 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, unless I misheard him, my noble friend appears to have produced a new definition of con...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 cc30-1 (Link to this contribution)

No, my Lords. It would be very nice to have a consensus between the three Front Benches. I think ...

Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 737 c31 (Link to this contribution)

I am interested in what the noble Lord said about consensus and take account, particularly, of wh...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c31 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have not taken a final view on the Joint Committee’s report and proposals. We are wo...

Lord Grocott | 737 c31 (Link to this contribution)

The Leader seems to be making great play with his accusation that the Labour Party is not united ...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c31 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord forgets that he and I have been debating this issue for very many years,...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 737 c31 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend has just said that there has never been consensus in the Conservative Party and t...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c31 (Link to this contribution)

That is the point: the commitment was to build consensus across the parties to see whether Parlia...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 737 c32 (Link to this contribution)

However, there was consensus—on any of the noble Lord’s definitions—in relation to the Steel Bill...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c32 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the only Bill emanating from my noble friend Lord Steel that has passed through this Ho...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c32 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to intervene in the noble Lord’s remarkable speech this morning. The issue...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c32 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord has responded to my invitation to speak with clarity. Labour will suppor...

Lord Rooker | 737 c32 (Link to this contribution)

I will tell the Leader where it has come from. We want to make the primacy of the elected House a...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c33 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, was a distinguished Minister with the previous Administrat...

Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 737 c33 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the noble Lord has forgotten the establishment of the committee under the chairm...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c33 (Link to this contribution)

I am well aware of that, but it is pretty rum that the report from the noble Lord, Lord Cunningha...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 737 c33 (Link to this contribution)

The Leader of the House has not yet mentioned another little time bomb that is ticking away—a com...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c33 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, refers to the West Lothian question. The noble and learned Lord, Lo...

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 737 c34 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is entertaining the House with a fascinating speech, but could he say whether, wer...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c34 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have no problem with the primacy of the House of Commons as it stands and I am very k...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c34 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am not giving way to the noble Lord again; let me finish. The noble Lord will make a speech...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c34 (Link to this contribution)

This is the last intervention I will take from the noble Lord.

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 737 c34 (Link to this contribution)

The Leader did not answer my question, which is a very important one. Let us suppose that the Wes...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c34 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps if the Labour Party had considered these issues in 1997, 1998 and 1999, we woul...

Lord Lawson of Blaby | 737 c34 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the Leader for giving way. However, on reflection, does he not consider it ...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c35 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think that it was particularly candid of me to express a view that there was n...

Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean | 737 c35 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Lord the Leader of the House sits down, may I ask him a question not a...

Lord Strathclyde | 737 c35 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much look forward to hearing the noble Baroness’s speech, when she will be able ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 cc35-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was a remarkable speech by the noble Lord the Leader of the House. It was a remark...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 cc37-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is worth waiting for, my Lords.

Let us pick up the point made by my noble friend Lord Fo...

Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 737 c38 (Link to this contribution)

That is an interesting statement. Would we be right to conclude from it that, unless those condit...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c38 (Link to this contribution)

We will have to see what is in the Bill.

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c39 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we will of course have to see what is in the Bill. With the greatest respect to the nob...

Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 737 c39 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord for his patience. Anyone listening to his previous statement woul...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c39 (Link to this contribution)

I am slightly confused. The noble Lord asked me whether the Labour Party would support the Bill. ...

Lord Trimble | 737 c39 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for giving way and I understand the importance of the issue to which he ha...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 cc39-40 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very helpful suggestion. One way or another with two elected Houses, whatever is in the...

Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 737 c40 (Link to this contribution)

Is it still the official position of the Labour Party that it favours a 100%-elected House? If so...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c40 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are in favour of a 100%-elected House. We debated hybridity last week. Our view on a...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 737 c40 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened to the noble Lord’s very important and interesting speech. Does it follow from hi...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c41 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is an interesting idea. If we face huge constitutional change in the affairs of the ...

Lord Rooker | 737 c41 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may give my noble friend another example. We did not develop this matter in the Joint C...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 cc41-2 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the noble Lord. He is absolutely right. Of course, this is not new. One has only to ...

Lord Tyler | 737 cc42-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the last 20 minutes or so, the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, has been busil...

Lord Grenfell | 737 c44 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord not agree that the membership of this House is a great deal more representati...

Lord Tyler | 737 c45 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish it were so, but I am afraid that the latest analysis shows that it is not, parti...

Baroness Hayman | 737 c45 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to do no disservice to the other place whatever, but the noble Lord should not d...

Lord Tyler | 737 c45 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think that I need respond to that. I accept and have great respect for the nob...

Lord Laming | 737 c45 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is entirely appropriate that the debate on the humble Address should begin on consti...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c45 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to respond. The noble Lord will recall that in the cross-party talks whi...

Lord Laming | 737 cc45-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord. Therefore, before we go, perhaps we may just make a contrib...

Lord Elton | 737 c46 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, could the noble Lord elaborate on that? Are we to take it from what he has said that, i...

Lord Laming | 737 cc46-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is a very important question. My own view is that I would like to see both Houses ...

Lord Wakeham | 737 cc48-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure for me to follow the Convenor of the Cross Benches. I have alway...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c49 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for allowing me to acknowledge the excellence of his ro...

Lord Wakeham | 737 cc49-50 (Link to this contribution)

It is another story as to why the noble Lord did not get anywhere with it. I will not bore the Ho...

Earl of Sandwich | 737 c50 (Link to this contribution)

Would the noble Lord care to make a comment in his search for consensus on the original Bill of t...

Lord Wakeham | 737 cc50-1 (Link to this contribution)

I will be frightfully indiscreet and say that if I were still in charge of business management, I...

Lord Wills | 737 cc51-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, unlike some other speakers, I think that constitutional affairs merit parliamentary tim...

Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 737 c54 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the fact that we are having a discussion at the beginning of the Queen’s Spee...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c54 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord think that if Scotland rejected independence but some form of what has come t...

Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 737 cc55-6 (Link to this contribution)

I think there is a need to recognise that all the constituent nations and, for that matter, regio...

Lord Wills | 737 c56 (Link to this contribution)

I think the noble Lord was just about to come on to my question. There has already been quite a l...

Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 737 c56 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly want to see the convention being fully representative. Maybe it would operate differe...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 737 c57 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord not think it interesting and disappointing that we heard from the noble Lord,...

Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 737 c57 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with what the noble Lord says about a federal solution probably being best. However, it w...

Lord Luce | 737 cc57-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, having listened to the debate so far, and thinking back over the discussions about this...

Lord Wills | 737 c58 (Link to this contribution)

I hesitate to keep intervening, as I have had my say already, but I am very interested in what th...

Lord Luce | 737 c58 (Link to this contribution)

My suggestion is that we approach this in two ways. The big issues on constitutional aspects shou...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 737 cc58-61 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Queen’s Speech contains a number of important constitutional matters. The matter of...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 737 c61 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord for giving way. If you accept the primacy of the...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 737 c61 (Link to this contribution)

I am saying that the legislation needs to have a reason behind it. It is all very well to legisla...

Lord Wills | 737 c62 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord for giving way. Is it not possible to conceive of a d...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 737 c62 (Link to this contribution)

That is tantamount to asking that the second Chamber be elected not to exercise full democratic a...

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