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Horsemeat

Adjournment debate on Wednesday, 30 January 2013, in the House of Commons, led by Steve Reed. The answering member was David Heath.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
557 cc251-273WH 
Session
2012-13
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
Proceeding contributions
Steve Reed | 557 c251WH (Link to this contribution)

May I start, Mr Amess, by saying what a pleasure it is to serve under your chairmanship for the f...

Roger Williams | 557 c251WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on obtaining the debate. Does he agree that there is a differen...


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Steve Reed | 557 cc251-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I do agree. The problem is that consumers cannot be sure what is going into the product they are ...

Andy McDonald | 557 c252WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing the debate. Does he agree that the Government’s scrappi...

Steve Reed | 557 c252WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. I will come on to the national equine database and the risks that it...

James Gray | 557 c252WH (Link to this contribution)

I am listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman’s interesting speech on this extremely important s...

Steve Reed | 557 cc252-3WH (Link to this contribution)

There are certainly issues to do with what the supermarkets are sourcing, which is contributing t...

James Gray | 557 c253WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Steve Reed | 557 c253WH (Link to this contribution)

I will make progress, if I may. I have taken several interventions already.

Those failures ...

Glyn Davies | 557 c253WH (Link to this contribution)

Like many others, I think that the debate is hugely important, and with my background in the live...

Jamie Reed | 557 c254WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Gentleman; the standards of testing in Ireland seem to be admirable, and we...

James Gray | 557 c254WH (Link to this contribution)

I was not necessarily intending to speak at any great length, but I have been inspired by the spe...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 c254WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on making a very good speech. Local food provenance is importan...

James Gray | 557 cc255-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman, and am about to discuss trading standards, and how we c...

Glyn Davies | 557 c256WH (Link to this contribution)

I have taken the same view of horse passports as my hon. Friend, because I knew they would not wo...

James Gray | 557 cc256-7WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an extremely important point, and I was about to move on to it. He speaks fo...

Jim Shannon | 557 cc257-8WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Croydon North (Steve Reed) on bringing this matter to the Hous...

Gregory Campbell | 557 c258WH (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that what is important now is to restore the confidence of the wider co...

Jim Shannon | 557 cc258-9WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for raising that matter. The farming industry does its bit, and trading st...

James Gray | 557 c259WH (Link to this contribution)

There is a question to be asked about the degree to which the Republic of Ireland is guilty of lo...

Jim Shannon | 557 c259WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has illustrated that well. There is a question on the standards in neighbourin...

Kerry McCarthy | 557 c259WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point. At one end of the market, people are becoming very...

Jim Shannon | 557 c260WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not always have solutions to the issues that come along. I hope the Government, in whom we h...

Glyn Davies | 557 c260WH (Link to this contribution)

I hope the hon. Gentleman agrees that we should not create an impression that, just because a pro...

Jim Shannon | 557 cc260-1WH (Link to this contribution)

I accept that point. Cheaper does not always mean that the quality is inferior, but—this is why w...

Roger Williams | 557 cc261-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I start by declaring an interest as a producer of beef and sheep, but not horses. The last time I...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 c262WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a good and intelligent contribution to this debate. I suggest that o...

Roger Williams | 557 c262WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman, because he is aware of these matters, will know that if meat or any other foo...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 cc262-3WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon North (Steve Reed) on securing this debate, ...

Stephen Doughty | 557 c263WH (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for not being here at the start of the debate, and I thank my hon. Friend for giving ...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 cc263-4WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a critical point. There are technical issues that we need to consider and as...

Roger Williams | 557 c264WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman raises an important issue. He has been doing some work on bute. Animals receiv...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 c264WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman tempts me to mention the Government’s own veterinary advice, although I was no...

James Gray | 557 c264WH (Link to this contribution)

Just to correct the hon. Gentleman on a small point, it is not a matter of fragmentation. When th...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 c264WH (Link to this contribution)

This is fascinating, because that was why we introduced the national equine database, which centr...

James Gray | 557 c264WH (Link to this contribution)

Double passporting and fraud would occur whether or not there was a national equine database; tha...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 c265WH (Link to this contribution)

I disagree with the hon. Gentleman. The Prime Minister was always opposed to the NED and spoke op...

Roger Williams | 557 c265WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right to say that the illegal meat trade has always involved criminal activ...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 cc265-6WH (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, hence my insistence on doing more. It is not sufficient just to say, “We have checks in p...

James Gray | 557 c266WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 c266WH (Link to this contribution)

I would prefer not to take an intervention, because a separate debate is needed on the matter and...

James Gray | 557 c266WH (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely interested in the whole topic of horse passports, but it is a diversion and a red ...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 cc266-7WH (Link to this contribution)

Another debate is needed, but I can cite root and branch opinion, including from members of DEFRA...

David Heath | 557 cc267-8WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Croydon North (Steve Reed) on securing and introducing the deb...

Roger Williams | 557 c268WH (Link to this contribution)

I, too, welcome the announcement that Tesco will do DNA testing, but we should not be misled in t...

David Heath | 557 c268WH (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that that is absolutely true, as it is of other retailers. Waitrose, for instance, wish...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 c268WH (Link to this contribution)

One confidence restorer that consumers will expect is that those responsible for the current adul...

David Heath | 557 c268WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman must be careful to distinguish between prosecution and litigation. Civil litig...

Steve Reed | 557 c269WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister referred to cross-contamination being a source of trace DNA found in other food prod...

David Heath | 557 cc269-270WH (Link to this contribution)

It is not uncommon in inexpensive burgers, for example, to use bulking material such as beef prot...

Steve Reed | 557 c270WH (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the Minister says about the reduced numbers of local authority food safety officers, ...

David Heath | 557 c271WH (Link to this contribution)

The distinction I was trying to make for the hon. Gentleman—I accept that he has been given figur...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 c271WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has rightly drawn attention to the success of testing in the meat processing and aba...

David Heath | 557 cc271-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I was going to move on to the issues about phenylbutazone and horse passports, as that was the ot...

Steve Reed | 557 c272WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister not agree that it would make much more sense to prevent the transport of such m...

David Heath | 557 c272WH (Link to this contribution)

That would require all 9,000 horses that are killed for human consumption—the vast majority of wh...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 557 c272WH (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the Minister’s candour. In the couple of minutes that are remaining, will he deal with ...

David Heath | 557 cc272-3WH (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to look at the operation of the horse passport. However, the national equine data...

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