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Financial Services Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 10 December 2012, in the House of Commons, led by Greg Clark.
Lords amendments agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
555 cc63-123 
Session
2012-13
Department
Treasury
Legislative stage
Lords amendments
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Financial Services Bill 2010-12 to 2012-13. Lords amendments.
Thursday, 6 December 2012
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Nigel Evans | 555 c64 (Link to this contribution)

I must draw the House’s attention to the fact that financial privilege is involved in Lords amend...

Greg Clark | 555 c64 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 1.


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Nigel Evans | 555 c64 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to consider the following:

Lords amendment 2.

Lords a...

Greg Clark | 555 c64 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to be muscling in at this late stage of our proceedings on the Bill, but I feel ...

Greg Clark | 555 cc64-6 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman was one such Member.

We are in agreement with all their lordships’ amend...

Chris Leslie | 555 cc66-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to welcome the new Minister to these rather long-winded proceedings. I bel...

Lord Tyrie | 555 c68 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will recall, of course, that the poorly drafted MOU that lay behind the tripar...

Chris Leslie | 555 c68 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the Chairman of the Treasury Committee, who is very knowledgeable and has s...

Alison McGovern | 555 c68 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that it is incredibly important that Parliament gives its view on such ...

Chris Leslie | 555 c68 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is correct that this is about learning the lessons of preparedness and of what lev...

Alison McGovern | 555 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for being so generous in giving way again. This is a crucial point: Parlia...

Chris Leslie | 555 c69 (Link to this contribution)

It is worth noting that when we talk about the independence of the Bank of England we are talking...

Gareth Thomas | 555 c69 (Link to this contribution)

While my hon. Friend has his arguments firmly in his mind, for some time many Members of this Hou...

Chris Leslie | 555 cc69-70 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, and I am grateful to my hon. Friend for taking the time to participate in this debate. A ...

George Mudie | 555 c70 (Link to this contribution)

The situation with mortgages will be similar. I am certain that the FSA’s and the Bank’s insisten...

Chris Leslie | 555 c71 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will not be surprised to learn that there was a little argy-bargy between the Trea...

Lord Tyrie | 555 cc71-3 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill came out of the other place only last Wednesday night and it was heavily amended there. ...

Alison McGovern | 555 c73 (Link to this contribution)

May I take the hon. Gentleman back to his fourth point? He mentioned the Treasury Committee’s abi...

Lord Tyrie | 555 cc73-4 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Lady will forgive me, I will not linger on those points for too long, because the Com...

Greg Clark | 555 c74 (Link to this contribution)

I can give my hon. Friend that assurance. The Government have already said, I think in response t...

Lord Tyrie | 555 c74 (Link to this contribution)

That reassurance is helpful. I will take it back to both the Treasury Committee and the Banking C...

Mark Durkan | 555 c74 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has referred to the new Governor. If it had been a condition of his appointmen...

Lord Tyrie | 555 cc74-5 (Link to this contribution)

Well, he is a very clever man. I am confident that at the time of his appointment he would have b...

Greg Clark | 555 cc75-6 (Link to this contribution)

This has been a short but interesting debate, and I am grateful to the hon. Member for Nottingham...

George Mudie | 555 c76 (Link to this contribution)

That should be qualified by the fact that the current Governor of the Bank of England does not wa...

Greg Clark | 555 c76 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has more experience of questioning the Governor than I have. The Joint Committ...

Chris Leslie | 555 c76 (Link to this contribution)

I understand the Minister’s argument. However, we are talking about a lot of power in the hands o...

Greg Clark | 555 cc76-7 (Link to this contribution)

All those things are provided for in the Bill; the question is whether the word that the hon. Gen...

Chris Leslie | 555 c77 (Link to this contribution)

The problem is the threadbare nature of the memorandum of understanding, particularly the infamou...

Greg Clark | 555 cc77-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman’s clarification. We should bear it in mind that the Bill req...

George Mudie | 555 c78 (Link to this contribution)

Both the Treasury Committee and the Joint Committee on the draft Financial Services Bill were con...

Greg Clark | 555 c78 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman’s point. I am not able to produce a novel parliamentary proc...

Chris Leslie | 555 c78 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to hear that concession from the Minister. We have suggested a super-affirmative p...

Greg Clark | 555 c78 (Link to this contribution)

I give the hon. Gentleman an inch and he takes a mile. I will not commit to a different procedure...

George Mudie | 555 c78 (Link to this contribution)

Has the Minister just been handed fresh instructions?

Greg Clark | 555 cc78-9 (Link to this contribution)

They may be fresh instructions, but I have decided not to read them. I may be countermanded, but ...

Greg Clark | 555 c79 (Link to this contribution)

I will not turn around and look at my officials in the Box, because I am sure I would get some bl...

Andy Slaughter | 555 c79 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. On 29 February this year, I asked the Secretary of Sta...

Baroness Primarolo | 555 c79 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Will hon. Members who are leaving the Chamber please so do quietly? Those remaining in the...

Andy Slaughter | 555 c79 (Link to this contribution)

My initial question on 29 February asked for the names of the 25 highest-paid lawyers and I was t...

Baroness Primarolo | 555 c84 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly the Government thought long and hard about how to answer the question—a little too long, ...

Greg Clark | 555 c84 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 24.

Baroness Primarolo | 555 c84 (Link to this contribution)

With this we may take Lords amendments 25, 41, 63, 78, 86, 128 to 138, 147, 231 to 233 and 236.

Greg Clark | 555 c84 (Link to this contribution)

The amendments in this group relate to key considerations that have underpinned the design of the...

Gareth Thomas | 555 c84 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister gave the example of access to a bank account, but may I draw his attention to the is...

Greg Clark | 555 c84 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a reasonable point. However, having set up the FCA to put supervision in...

Lord Soames of Fletching | 555 c84 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that it matters that it is not too difficult to open an account i...

Greg Clark | 555 c85 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is the import of the amendment I mentioned—we have...

Tracey Crouch | 555 c85 (Link to this contribution)

There has been a proliferation of payday loans companies setting up in Chatham high street. Hon. ...

Greg Clark | 555 c85 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is a real campaigner—anyone who suffers poor treatment in Chatham can count on her...

Helen Goodman | 555 c85 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister clarify for the House whether the rules apply to organisations such as BrightHo...

Greg Clark | 555 c85 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady would not expect me to comment on a particular firm when I do not know the details,...

Helen Goodman | 555 c85 (Link to this contribution)

But it sounds as if people selling goods at exceptionally high interest rates on hire purchase ag...

Greg Clark | 555 cc86-7 (Link to this contribution)

I do not believe there is a loophole. Firms are required to be regulated for those aspects of the...

Gareth Thomas | 555 c87 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for interrupting the Minister’s strand of thinking on the social investment measures,...

Greg Clark | 555 c87 (Link to this contribution)

I will not do that for much the same reasons I gave in response to the previous intervention. The...

Gareth Thomas | 555 c87 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister reflect on that answer? It would be helpful, in the context of the debate and u...

Greg Clark | 555 c88 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman knows that the term, “payday lender” is relatively informal and loose. It is i...

Stella Creasy | 555 c88 (Link to this contribution)

I encourage the Minister to broaden his comments to encompass all our concerns about high-cost cr...

Greg Clark | 555 c88 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her point, which makes the point I was making to the hon. Memb...

Yvonne Fovargue | 555 c88 (Link to this contribution)

Will the FCA be able to look at other concerns such as the misuse of continuous payment authority...

Greg Clark | 555 c88 (Link to this contribution)

The short answer to that is yes. The FCA’s powers will be broad, and defined by practice rather t...

Chris Leslie | 555 cc88-9 (Link to this contribution)

There are a large number of amendments in this group, and they focus on consumer credit and the b...

Sheila Gilmore | 555 c89 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend talks about regulating to ensure that these bank accounts remain available. Someti...

Chris Leslie | 555 c90 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, that is the case. Anxiety is spreading and rumours are circulating that people with credi...

Alison McGovern | 555 c90 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend slightly broaden his comments about the LINK system? In too many of our towns...

Chris Leslie | 555 c90 (Link to this contribution)

That is true. The Opposition take the view that the financial services sector needs to move away ...

Gareth Thomas | 555 c90 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an extremely important point. He will be aware that President Obama, in ...

Chris Leslie | 555 cc90-1 (Link to this contribution)

In Labour’s view, amendment 25 ought to allow that. If we are talking about ease of access to aff...

Mark Durkan | 555 c91 (Link to this contribution)

Like my hon. Friend, I welcome amendment 25, which, I note, was something he laboured on valiantl...

Chris Leslie | 555 c91 (Link to this contribution)

Exactly. I imagine that what my hon. Friend describes is absolutely correct. Incidentally, I pay ...

Gareth Thomas | 555 c91 (Link to this contribution)

Is there not a danger that the Minister might see amendments 25 and 78 as a “Get out of Jail” car...

Chris Leslie | 555 cc92-3 (Link to this contribution)

That is correct. The Minister ought to be meeting the FCA regularly, and clearly those are the qu...

Helen Goodman | 555 cc93-4 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak to Lords amendment 25. The Minister was not terribly clear in his opening remarks...

Gareth Thomas | 555 cc94-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for this opportunity to take part in the debate tonight. I echo some of the concern...

Helen Goodman | 555 c95 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend reminds me that I asked HSBC, when it was closing its branch in my constituency, i...

Gareth Thomas | 555 cc95-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend gives a good example of the lack of joined-up thinking in our financial services m...

Susan Elan Jones | 555 c96 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has been talking about bank deserts. Would he also accept that there is also a pro...

Gareth Thomas | 555 c96 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very good point. The situation is particularly stark in rural communities,...

Tracey Crouch | 555 cc96-7 (Link to this contribution)

I had not intended to speak in this debate, but I rise briefly to talk about Lords amendment 78. ...

Stella Creasy | 555 cc98-100 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to amendments 78, 137 and 148, which deal with the role of the Office of Fair Tra...

Justin Tomlinson | 555 c100 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is delivering a categorical and passionate speech about a very important subject, a...

Stella Creasy | 555 c100 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the work that the hon. Gentleman has done in raising issues about debt and credi...

Yvonne Fovargue | 555 c100 (Link to this contribution)

Continuous payment authorities also militate against affordability checks. As was established by ...

Stella Creasy | 555 cc100-1 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. I pay tribute to the work that she has done in this regard, and also in ...

Damian Hinds | 555 c101 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow the hon. Member for Walthamstow (Stella Creasy), and to speak in favour...

Justin Tomlinson | 555 c101 (Link to this contribution)

On the question of percentage charges, if we displayed everything in cash terms it would be far e...

Damian Hinds | 555 cc101-2 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, total cost of credit information is a good way forward—although, ironically, that would plea...

Stella Creasy | 555 c102 (Link to this contribution)

It is wonderful to hear the hon. Gentleman talking about the positive aspects of capping. I sugge...

Damian Hinds | 555 cc102-3 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is entirely right, and I alluded to that point when I talked about behavioural char...

Andrea Leadsom | 555 c103 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak briefly on Lords amendments 25 and 36, both of which deal with the issue of compe...

Greg Clark | 555 cc103-4 (Link to this contribution)

This excellent debate has covered a number of issues that colleagues from all parts of the House ...

Sheila Gilmore | 555 c104 (Link to this contribution)

The previous Government had proposed creating exactly such an obligation, but the Minister’s pred...

Greg Clark | 555 cc104-5 (Link to this contribution)

I did not have the privilege of participating in that debate, but I can tell the hon. Lady our po...

George Freeman | 555 c105 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the Minister for giving way, and I want to endorse his sentiments and ...

Greg Clark | 555 cc105-6 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my hon. Friend. The Bill has a role to play, because it is very important...

Greg Clark | 555 c106 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 59.

Lindsay Hoyle | 555 c106 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to consider the following:

Lords amendment 60, and amendmen...

Greg Clark | 555 cc106-8 (Link to this contribution)

I come now to the Government’s implementation of the independent review of LIBOR conducted by Mr ...

Chris Leslie | 555 cc108-9 (Link to this contribution)

We have moved on to another series of amendments that have arisen largely as a result of the scan...

Alison McGovern | 555 c109 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend mentioned ethics a moment ago. Although we need a financial services system that i...

Chris Leslie | 555 cc110-1 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an excellent intervention. She is right. In our debates about financial serv...

Mike Freer | 555 c111 (Link to this contribution)

Much commodity trading is still focused on trading on the floor, rather than on the screen. Does ...

Chris Leslie | 555 cc111-2 (Link to this contribution)

I do want to see more transparency. Electronic data exchanges certainly have the potential to pro...

Alison McGovern | 555 cc112-3 (Link to this contribution)

I promise not to test your patience, Mr Deputy Speaker, or that of the House by speaking for too ...

Sheila Gilmore | 555 c113 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend reflect on the fact that trading in commodity derivatives can skew investment...

Alison McGovern | 555 c113 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that highly appropriate intervention. When the history of Great Britai...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 555 c113 (Link to this contribution)

To use the increase in food commodity prices as an argument for increased control over derivative...

Alison McGovern | 555 c113 (Link to this contribution)

As I have said, this morning I listened to a presentation from the UN Secretary-General’s special...

Gordon Birtwistle | 555 c114 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making a good point, but did the person whom she met this morning give her alter...

Alison McGovern | 555 c114 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention and his compliment that he thinks my point is not...

Mark Durkan | 555 c114 (Link to this contribution)

When some of us raised these issues in the previous Parliament, the then Government pooh-poohed t...

Alison McGovern | 555 cc114-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, which was characteristically well made. I share ...

Greg Clark | 555 cc115-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to respond to this short but important debate.

The hon. Member for Notting...

John Bercow | 555 c117 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, I propose to put Lords amendments 98 to 290 together.

Chris Leslie | 555 c117 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 98 is in a separate group relating to clearing houses, and I would like to make some re...

John Bercow | 555 c117 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister will need to move amendment 98, and can do so.

Greg Clark | 555 c121 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 98.

John Bercow | 555 c121 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to consider Lords amendments 99, 122 to 127, 224 and 225.

Chris Leslie | 555 cc121-2 (Link to this contribution)

I would have thought the Minister would have wanted to speak, as Lords amendment 98 is the lead a...

Greg Clark | 555 c122 (Link to this contribution)

Let me give a bit of context to amendments 98 and 225. Taken together, they make provision with r...

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