Civil Aviation Bill 2010-12. Second reading debate. Agreed on question. Programme motion relating to proceedings in Committee, on report, third reading and Lords amendments agreed on question. Money resolution agreed on question. Carry-over motion agreed on question.
Civil Aviation Bill
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
539 c566-647
Session
2010-12
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Civil Aviation Bill. Explanatory notes also published (Bill 275-EN).
Thursday, 19 January 2012
Bills
House of Commons
Thursday, 19 January 2012
Bills
House of Commons
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Draft Civil Aviation Bill: Pre-legislative scrutiny. Transport Select Committee thirteenth report with formal minutes. (Vote)
Tuesday, 17 January 2012
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Tuesday, 17 January 2012
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Seema Malhotra | 539 c611-2 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to begin by thanking hon. and right hon. Members on both sides of the House for their ...
Speaker | 539 c600 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Members have shown amazing self-discipline in the length of their speeches, so I am able to i...
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Speaker | 539 c583 (Link to this contribution)
Order. To accommodate as many Members as possible, a 10-minute limit on Back-Bench contributions has...
Damian Collins | 539 c615 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend's constituency is 30 miles or so from mine. I am sure that his constituents and mine ...
Mark Tami | 539 c615 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is making a powerful case. Does he accept that the argument made by some that we ...
Bob Stewart | 539 c615 (Link to this contribution)
Stacking causes a lot of noise in my constituency and I just want to endorse what my hon. Friend say...
Nigel Mills | 539 c618-21 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Luton North (Kelvin Hopkins) and to have witnessed th...
Lord Wharton of Yarm | 539 c621 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Amber Valley (Nigel Mills), who spoke eloqu...
Damian Collins | 539 c615-7 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has anticipated my next point. Extra runway capacity helps deal with issues such ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 539 c617-8 (Link to this contribution)
It is my privilege and great pleasure to be the first member of my party to congratulate my hon. Fri...
Nigel Mills | 539 c622 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to give my hon. Friend some hope for his campaign. A few years ago, East Midlands airport cha...
Lord Wharton of Yarm | 539 c622 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend, who is a member of the Transport Committee, has, in true expert fashion, predicted m...
Julian Sturdy | 539 c621 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making some powerful points about regional airports. He is absolutely right that w...
Christopher Pincher | 539 c606-7 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is trying to draw me into the trap of discussing High Speed 2. Birmingham airport car...
Mark Lazarowicz | 539 c607-8 (Link to this contribution)
Those of us who emphasise the importance of ensuring that the environmental consequences of aviation...
Bob Stewart | 539 c608 (Link to this contribution)
Environmental considerations include noise pollution. As more and more aeroplanes circulate around L...
Mark Lazarowicz | 539 c608-9 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. As I understand it, the Bill does not specifically enco...
Iain Stewart | 539 c609-11 (Link to this contribution)
I draw the House's attention to my entry in the Register of Members' Financial Interests.
I welcome...
Stephen Pound | 539 c612 (Link to this contribution)
The Irish Post?
Damian Collins | 539 c614-5 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great pleasure to follow the maiden speech from the hon. Member for Feltham and Heston (Seem...
Norman Baker | 539 c642-3 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the kind comments from Members on both sides of the House in respect of my right hon. Frie...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 539 c642 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman was not listening. My hon. Friend held out the prospect of cross-party talks to s...
Norman Baker | 539 c643-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to advise the hon. Gentleman that the Department for Transport is producing a comprehensi...
Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown | 539 c643 (Link to this contribution)
I have the Belfast International airport in my constituency. Under this Bill, can the Minister assur...
Julian Huppert | 539 c646 (Link to this contribution)
I hear what my hon. Friend says. He is correct that information is helpful and that all airports hav...
Sarah Newton | 539 c632 (Link to this contribution)
I agree about the need to reform regulation. Does my hon. Friend agree that we also need a proportio...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 539 c638-41 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the House is grateful for that update and good news from the Secretary of State.
As ...
Justine Greening | 539 c638 (Link to this contribution)
I can report to the House that the Minister of State is watching the BBC Parliament channel in hospi...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 539 c637 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Rochester and Strood (Mark Reckless) in what has been...
Mark Reckless | 539 c635-7 (Link to this contribution)
Our right hon. Friend the Prime Minister set out three clear principles on quangos and cases in whic...
Steve Baker | 539 c635 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend share my slight concern that more flexible regulation may result in greater unce...
Mark Reckless | 539 c634-5 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Daventry (Chris Heaton-Harris), who told us...
Speaker | 539 c632 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Members must make brief interventions, not speeches. I have been very lenient. I also ask Mem...
Mark Reckless | 539 c629 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has mentioned regional airports, airports in Essex, and innovation and investment. Is...
Priti Patel | 539 c628-9 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome my hon. Friend's intervention, and make the observation that that is indeed very true; it ...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 539 c630-1 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to take part in a debate that has featured a sparkling maiden speech from the hon. ...
Priti Patel | 539 c629-30 (Link to this contribution)
I know about that work. I also know how hard organisations such as Essex chamber of commerce and oth...
Jackie Doyle-Price | 539 c624-7 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to associate myself with the comments made by colleagues following the maiden speech o...
Lord Wharton of Yarm | 539 c622-4 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend, and I hope that in the fullness of time that is exactly what will happen. Ho...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 539 c627 (Link to this contribution)
I am listening to my hon. Friend's comments. I had assumed that when people were coming in to land, ...
Priti Patel | 539 c627 (Link to this contribution)
I start as others have done by paying tribute to the hon. Member for Feltham and Heston (Seema Malho...
Mark Reckless | 539 c631 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend talks of 1980s-style legislation as if it were a bad thing. Does he not remember who ...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 539 c631-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am suddenly enamoured by 1980s-style legislation. Indeed, I had the haircut to go with the music o...
Gavin Shuker | 539 c600 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a good point about high-speed rail, which is not a substitute for additional ai...
Gavin Shuker | 539 c599-600 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, but I am not qualified to make that assessment.
My hon. Friend does, however, make the poin...
Julian Huppert | 539 c598 (Link to this contribution)
A number of people still wish to speak, so I shall not give way again.
The Select Committee on Tran...
Mark Lazarowicz | 539 c598 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Julian Huppert | 539 c597-8 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, it has, and I have had discussions with Rolls-Royce, which makes a number of new engines tha...
Gavin Shuker | 539 c599 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an extremely strong case. I have looked at those proposals, and that airport is...
Brian H Donohoe | 539 c599 (Link to this contribution)
Given that it is rumoured that the Ministry of Defence is proposing to sell off RAF Northolt, does m...
Gavin Shuker | 539 c598-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful for the opportunity to speak in this important debate, and to follow the hon...
Gavin Shuker | 539 c605-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, but I fear that he is being slightly disingenuous in mixing up ...
Fiona Bruce | 539 c600-3 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the Bill and propose to speak chiefly to clause 94, which amends section 71 of the Civil A...
Fiona Bruce | 539 c603 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention.
In responding to the debate, will the Minister cl...
Mark Lazarowicz | 539 c603 (Link to this contribution)
I have been contacted by many of my constituents who work in the aviation industry, including pilots...
Christopher Pincher | 539 c605 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to speak after the hon. Member for Bolton West (Julie Hilling), some of whose points I ...
Julie Hilling | 539 c603-5 (Link to this contribution)
First, I add my voice to those who have expressed concerns about the Bill having been rushed. As a m...
Christopher Pincher | 539 c605 (Link to this contribution)
I am prepared to give way to the doughty defender of Luton South.
Gavin Shuker | 539 c605 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Justine Greening | 539 c580 (Link to this contribution)
It is probably wise for me to remind the hon. Lady that the Labour Government part-privatised NATS i...
Maria Eagle | 539 c580 (Link to this contribution)
I am well aware that the Labour Government sold a stake in NATS. I am talking about the Secretary of...
Julian Huppert | 539 c581 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted that the hon. Lady's party has come to its senses and ruled out the third runway. I h...
Maria Eagle | 539 c581-2 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman would wait just a moment, he might hear my suggestion.
Two weeks ago, the Pri...
Brian H Donohoe | 539 c580 (Link to this contribution)
Ownership is currently entirely within British hands. It is possible that that would no longer be th...
Maria Eagle | 539 c581 (Link to this contribution)
That is indeed the worry. NATS does not cost the taxpayer a penny to run—in fact, it pays a dividend...
Julian Huppert | 539 c582 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?
Justine Greening | 539 c582 (Link to this contribution)
Part of the challenge is that the hon. Lady's party has so many different policies on so many differ...
Maria Eagle | 539 c582 (Link to this contribution)
Coming from a party that last week had a different policy every day, none of which was in accordance...
Maria Eagle | 539 c582-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am coming to a conclusion now, so the hon. Gentleman should wait for his own speech—[Hon. Members:...
Henry Smith | 539 c583-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the opportunity to take part in this important Second Reading. I commend the Gover...
Louise Ellman | 539 c585-6 (Link to this contribution)
This is an important Bill. Civil aviation is a vital part of our economy. Regulation must support th...
Brian H Donohoe | 539 c586 (Link to this contribution)
I commend the work of the Transport Committee on the Bill. One area of concern is the effect that th...
Louise Ellman | 539 c586-7 (Link to this contribution)
Economic growth is indeed an important area and, while the Minister stated that it was an objective,...
Kelvin Hopkins | 539 c587 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way, and I apologise for missing the first part of her sp...
Louise Ellman | 539 c587 (Link to this contribution)
As the bill for security mounts, it is important to give full consideration to how it is to be foote...
Mike Freer | 539 c587-9 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the Bill, which puts the passenger at the heart of airport regulation and operations. Prev...
Kelvin Hopkins | 539 c589 (Link to this contribution)
I have travelled through Heathrow many times, and have often seen queues unstaffed. More staff could...
Tom Harris | 539 c589-90 (Link to this contribution)
I would never suggest that any Minister should do anything other than what I did when I was a Minist...
Mark Lazarowicz | 539 c590 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that it is also important for the aircraft industry to try to produce more...
Tom Harris | 539 c589 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you for giving me an opportunity to contribute to the debate, Mr Deputy Speaker. Let me begin ...
Mike Freer | 539 c589 (Link to this contribution)
That is a good point. However, this is about not just staffing but the use of technology and the dep...
Tom Harris | 539 c590 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree. In 2009, I spoke twice in support of the Government's plans to build a third runwa...
Kelvin Hopkins | 539 c590-1 (Link to this contribution)
May I point out both that our party has also accepted that there will be no third runway at Heathrow...
Tom Harris | 539 c590 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree, and that is precisely what is happening in the airline industry. It is acutely awa...
Fiona Mactaggart | 539 c590 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend refers to seats to the west of London. Does he accept that many of those seats depend...
Alex Cunningham | 539 c594 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend and neighbour has proved to be a great champion for our local airport, which, as he s...
Phil Wilson | 539 c594-5 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a very important point. Transparency is very important when it comes to the sal...
Julian Huppert | 539 c595-6 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to disappoint the House but I am not going to speak in great detail about Cambridge in...
Iain Stewart | 539 c596 (Link to this contribution)
indicated assent.
Kwasi Kwarteng | 539 c591-3 (Link to this contribution)
I had prepared some introductory remarks, but in view of the kind comments of the hon. Member for Gl...
Phil Wilson | 539 c593-4 (Link to this contribution)
Aviation makes a major contribution to the UK economy: the industry makes up £19 billion to £20 bill...
Mark Lazarowicz | 539 c596 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not more serious than that? The Bill will allow licensed conditions to be imposed, based on ce...
Julian Huppert | 539 c596-7 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a fair point and I am sure that this issue will form a significant part of ...
Brian H Donohoe | 539 c597 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman at least concede that the airline business has improved its environmental im...
Tom Harris | 539 c568 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State makes a valid point about what should happen if a conflict of interests were ...
Justine Greening | 539 c568 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think we need to go that far. As I have said, the Bill's key purpose is to provide clarity ...
Justine Greening | 539 c568 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman correctly points out that exclusion and I will address his point shortly. When Si...
Gavin Shuker | 539 c568 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State has said that the CAA will have additional powers and responsibilities. Will ...
Justine Greening | 539 c567-8 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right to raise an issue that we also consider important. BAA also wants to ens...
Pete Wishart | 539 c567 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Secretary of State think that the takeover of British Midland International by the British ...
Justine Greening | 539 c566-7 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
A successful aviation sector goes hand in h...
Maria Eagle | 539 c573-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the right hon. Lady's intervention. I was just quoting what BAA said, and I hear w...
Justine Greening | 539 c573 (Link to this contribution)
I have met BAA on a number of occasions since taking on my present role, so I can assure the hon. La...
Maria Eagle | 539 c572-3 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is correct, and proper security is always a balance between managing to make sure...
Eilidh Whiteford | 539 c577 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Lady for raising this issue again, because it is extremely serious. I have...
Maria Eagle | 539 c577 (Link to this contribution)
I do concede that. I do not think that the aviation industry has anything to fear from closer scruti...
Henry Smith | 539 c577 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady not concede that airport operators, such as the operator of Gatwick airport in my...
Steve Baker | 539 c572 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady share my concern that passengers, as well as needing security, are worried about ...
Justine Greening | 539 c571-2 (Link to this contribution)
No doubt my hon. Friend will want to return to this issue in Committee, but I think that our proposa...
John Leech | 539 c570 (Link to this contribution)
Can we be assured that the transfer of staff from the Department to the CAA will not result in a los...
Justine Greening | 539 c568-70 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill cannot deliver absolutely everything in respect of the aviation industry. It will, however,...
Maria Eagle | 539 c570 (Link to this contribution)
Is the right hon. Lady at all concerned that the division of responsibilities will create new interf...
Justine Greening | 539 c570 (Link to this contribution)
We have considered that very closely and it is one reason why these changes will not happen overnigh...
Andrew Murrison | 539 c571 (Link to this contribution)
Has my right hon. Friend considered the impact of the transfer of powers from the Department's Trans...
Justine Greening | 539 c570-1 (Link to this contribution)
That is a very fair question and it is one that I have considered carefully, too. I do not believe t...
Peter Bone | 539 c571 (Link to this contribution)
I refer hon. Members to my declaration in the Register of Members' Financial Interests. This area is...
Justine Greening | 539 c571 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, we have considered that and we are very happy that we will continue to strike the appropriate b...
Norman Baker | 539 c646 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a point that others have made. If he or others want to pursue it in Committee, ...
Julian Huppert | 539 c642 (Link to this contribution)
The shadow Secretary of State promised me some ideas in her speech. Has the hon. Gentleman had a cha...
Mark Lazarowicz | 539 c600 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend not agree that one of the drawbacks of ““Boris island”” or, indeed, any other pl...
Christopher Pincher | 539 c606 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that intervention. The hon. Gentleman clearly intends to carry on for Luton South ...
Maria Eagle | 539 c578-80 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention.
There are precedents within the EU of a single company ...
Maria Eagle | 539 c576-7 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a good point. There are plenty of people who seek to read coded messages in wha...
Mark Lazarowicz | 539 c568 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State rightly points out that consumers' interests can be protected by promoting co...
Bob Stewart | 539 c606 (Link to this contribution)
Presumably, the high-speed link from London will work in reverse and people will be able to get up t...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 539 c632-4 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with my hon. Friend. I used Newquay airport once, and it is small but perfectly formed. The ...
Tom Harris | 539 c591 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a perfectly understandable constituency point, which I am sure will not have go...
Julian Huppert | 539 c596 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to see the hon. Gentleman nodding, and I hope that some of the information the Committ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 539 c576 (Link to this contribution)
Is the situation not worse than that? Is there not a danger that specifically removing the reference...
Maria Eagle | 539 c572 (Link to this contribution)
Let me begin by wishing the aviation Minister, the right hon. Member for Chipping Barnet (Mrs Villie...
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