Parliamentary search - Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill

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2010-12

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Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill. As amended in Committee.
Thursday, 16 June 2011
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Baroness Hamwee | 729 c797 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been said that the Liberal Democrats are protesting. I hope it is understood that i...

Baroness Paisley of St George's | 729 c797 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to add my voice and appeal that we leave this matter until tomorrow. At this ...

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Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c797-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we come to a very important matter: the appointment of acting police and crime commissione...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c797 (Link to this contribution) 229A: Clause 63, leave out Clause 63 and insert the following new Clause— ““Acting police and crime ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 729 c800-2 (Link to this contribution) This is an extremely important issue and not one that we should rush through simply because we are f...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 729 c802 (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend sits down, perhaps I might ask whether he has given any thought to the situat...

Lord Shipley | 729 c799 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my voice to those who support this amendment because I see it as a critical part of ...

Lord Beecham | 729 c799-800 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I correct my noble friend Lord Hunt, who has underestimated the extent of the precept as a...

Lord Dear | 729 c800 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are working against the clock this evening so I will not repeat any of the powerful arg...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 729 c804 (Link to this contribution) I fully understand. That was an exceptionally clear explanation. However, if the commissioner was no...

Lord Dear | 729 c804 (Link to this contribution) If an allegation of corruption or any other crime is made against someone, whoever the officer might...

Baroness Henig | 729 c803-4 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister replies, I have a brief query that I would like to ask. Between discussing this ...

Lord Soley | 729 c803 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will intervene briefly, mainly to support what my noble friend has said. On the previou...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 729 c802-3 (Link to this contribution) If such a circumstance were to exist—and clearly this is all very much in our minds at the present t...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c805 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one of the Minister’s concerns is plucking—I think that that was her term—someone from a p...

Baroness Henig | 729 c804 (Link to this contribution) When I looked at the government amendments, there was no suggestion that there was an exemption unde...

Baroness Browning | 729 c805 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will come back on that specific point, but I want to make the point that although I am n...

Lord Dear | 729 c804 (Link to this contribution) In the theoretical instance cited by the noble Lord, I do not think it would work that way because t...

Baroness Browning | 729 c804 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment seeks to secure the appointment of an acting PCC from the panel rather than...

Lord Boswell of Aynho | 729 c805 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, would an alternative approach, which would be not unfamiliar from board practice, be to es...

Baroness Browning | 729 c805 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend, as always, for making a constructive suggestion to resolve this is...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c806 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think the point has been well put that the powers of the acting PCC could be considerabl...

Baroness Browning | 729 c805 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend. I have explained to the House that I am very happy to take this fo...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c806 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in that case I am extremely grateful and I beg leave to withdraw my amendment. Amendment ...

Baroness Browning | 729 c806 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will commit to bringing it back at Third Reading for clarification.

Baroness Browning | 729 c807 (Link to this contribution) 234: Clause 74, leave out Clause 74 Amendment 234 agreed. Amendment 234A not moved. Clause 80 :...

Baroness Henig | 729 c807 (Link to this contribution) 235: Clause 80, page 49, line 28, at end insert— ““( ) A report is to be prepared annually by Her Ma...

Baroness Henig | 729 c807-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to speak to Amendments 235, 235A and 239. Can I just point that I think there...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c794 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it would be helpful to the House if the noble Baroness could give some indication of the G...

Baroness Browning | 729 c794 (Link to this contribution) That the Bill be now further considered on Report. That the Bill be now further considered on Repor...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c795 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I found that the most remarkable response. The Opposition have been very co-operative on t...

Baroness Browning | 729 c794 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I come to the Floor of the House tonight ready to complete Report. I do that particularly ...

Baroness Tonge | 729 c795 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, add my protest to what is going on here this evening. We have just spent several h...

Viscount Astor | 729 c795 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before my noble friend replies, will she bear in mind that some of us who have amendments ...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c795 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it may be helpful if I remind the House that we are moving into Report and that nothing ma...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 729 c795 (Link to this contribution) My Lords—

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 729 c796 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I take that, in the end, as a very positive intervention by the noble Baroness the Governm...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c796 (Link to this contribution) I did not stand up while anybody else was talking. I do not carry out that kind of breach of convent...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 729 c795 (Link to this contribution) You stood up.

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c795 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not going to take an intervention from anybody in the Chamber at the moment. I would ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 729 c796-7 (Link to this contribution) I was making two points. I made my first point and I gave way to the noble Baroness, as appropriate....

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c796 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have just carried out that procedure correctly, because I did not stand until the noble...

Baroness Browning | 729 c838 (Link to this contribution) 244: Clause 91, page 59, line 23, at end insert— ““( ) A statutory instrument containing an order un...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 729 c809-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that some of the issues that we are discussing in these amendments are rhet...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c809 (Link to this contribution) I have Amendment 235A in this group. The noble Baroness spoke about matters which I raised at the pr...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 729 c810-2 (Link to this contribution) The Government are trying to square the circle of putting a very high priority on national security—...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 729 c810 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend served with me on the Joint Committee on the national security strategy. Will he hel...

Lord Dear | 729 c813-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder if I might put a different gloss on the matters that we are debating in this grou...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 729 c812-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope I will be forgiven for making a short intervention in support of the amendment of t...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 729 c815 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister replies to the debate, he will recall that nearly an hour and a half a...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c814-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a very interesting debate. I understand what the noble Lord, Lord Dear, is s...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 729 c815-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister, but this is a serious point. A number of Members of this House have a...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 729 c815 (Link to this contribution) As always, the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, is immensely helpful in his contribution to debates. I well...

Baroness Henig | 729 c827-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that response. However, I do not think that he fully understood what I was ...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c826 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with regard to fees, I do not know whether my noble friend is in a position to give any co...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 729 c826-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we recognise we are proposing a different model for policing accountability from the previ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c822 (Link to this contribution) With the greatest respect, it was pointed out earlier that there is a misprint in the grouping list....

Lord Geddes | 729 c822-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg your Lordships’ pardon. That information had not reached me. Clause 85 : Functions of HMIC A...

Lord Geddes | 729 c822 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am much relieved that I was interrupted, because Amendment 235A is in the name of Barone...

Baroness Harris of Richmond | 729 c825-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to Amendments 236, 237 and 238 which were tabled by the noble Baroness,...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c826 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, all I would like to say on the amendment is that we have discussed in previous debates the...

Baroness Henig | 729 c823 (Link to this contribution) 236: Clause 85, page 52, line 28, at end insert— ““(2A) The inspectors of constabulary may carry out...

Baroness Browning | 729 c837 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Lord. I am sure that he is aware that Third Reading is next week—Tue...

Lord Ramsbotham | 729 c837-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful for that. I do not know whether I have the right to say that but we of ...

Baroness Browning | 729 c828 (Link to this contribution) 240: Schedule 11, page 145, line 42, at end insert— ““( ) In subsection (1), after ““section 5”” ins...

Lord Ramsbotham | 729 c828-9 (Link to this contribution) 242: Before Clause 91, insert the following new Clause— ““Status of British Transport Police Force (...

Lord Ramsbotham | 729 c829-31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 243, 271, 272, 304, 305 and 306. Since all the amendments...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 729 c831-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak in favour of the seven amendments. I start by expressing my appreciation to the Mi...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c832-3 (Link to this contribution) I support all these amendments, too. I will not repeat what the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, and my ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 729 c833 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall make only three brief points. Like the others who have spoken, I should like to he...

Baroness Browning | 729 c833-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have contributed to the debate. I shall start by...

Lord Ramsbotham | 729 c836 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that very encouraging and positive response. I also thank her per...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c818-9 (Link to this contribution) With the greatest respect to noble Lords, a requirement for HMIC to publish a report annually is not...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c818 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down and with the leave of the House, I say that the thrust of ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 729 c818 (Link to this contribution) There was a tension also about how much detail one writes into the Bill. We spent some time on these...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 729 c817 (Link to this contribution) The Minister talks about regulations but I did not actually think that the strategic policing requir...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 729 c817-8 (Link to this contribution) I promise to get back to the noble Lord with a situation report, certainly by the time we come to Th...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 729 c817 (Link to this contribution) I promise to get back to the noble Lord as soon as possible with an update of where we now are on th...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 729 c816 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, while I am fascinated to hear that this consultation is taking place, on the last occasion...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 729 c816-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clause 80 sets out in some detail the principles of the strategic policing requirement. It...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 729 c816 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will do my best to get that information to the House as soon as possible. As I said, it...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c821-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I nearly transgressed by being on my feet when the Deputy Speaker was on his feet, which w...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c822 (Link to this contribution) Well, there you are—that is what I really want to do. One minute’s break between today and tomorrow ...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 729 c822 (Link to this contribution) Briefly, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, for the way that she has approached this and for h...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 729 c819 (Link to this contribution) Before Minister comes back on this, I say that this is not just about whether or not this is a docum...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 729 c819 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not promised to give the detail of the strategic policing requirement, which is curr...

Lord Geddes | 729 c821 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 235A is in the name of Baroness Henig. Amendment 235A not moved.

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 729 c819 (Link to this contribution) In the next group of amendments we will move on to HMIC, and it is part of the requirement for HMIC ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c819 (Link to this contribution) Surely the Minister will know from the debate that we have had on the European Bill that many noble ...

Baroness Browning | 729 c806-7 (Link to this contribution) 230: Clause 66, leave out Clause 66 Amendment 230 agreed. Clause 67 : Disqualification from electi...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 729 c795 (Link to this contribution) Well, my Lords, I am certainly not furious and I always listen to my noble friend the Minister with ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 729 c817 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says that this is intended to be a strong requirement. Clause 80, which he referred to,...

Baroness Henig | 729 c819-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened closely to everything that has been said. I thank noble Lords who have par...

Lord Condon | 729 c798-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. We discussed this in Committee. I can think of virtually no circu...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 729 c796 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will make two points. First, it is my understanding, in terms of procedure, that in this...

Baroness Henig | 729 c823-4 (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to three amendments, which, taken together, seek to preserve the checks and balances...

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