Scotland Bill. Programme motion (No. 2), varying the motion of 27 January 2011, on proceedings on Report and Third reading, agreed to on question. Report stage debate. New clause 5, discussed with new clauses 8, 9 and 19, debated and added to the Bill. New clauses 5 and 6, and 12 to 14 added to the Bill. New clause 9 negatived on division (9 votes to 382). Amendments made. Third reading debate. Queen's consent signified. Agreed to on question. Bill read the third time and passed.
[Relevant document: The Fourth Report from the Scottish Affairs Committee, The Scotland Bill, HC 775-I.]
Scotland Bill
Debate on bills on Tuesday, 21 June 2011,
in the House of Commons,
led by David Gauke.
The answering
member was Ann McKechin.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
530 c220-94 
Session
2010-12
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
The Scotland Bill. Scottish Affairs Select Committee fourth report in 3 volumes with formal minutes, evidence and appendices. Additional written evidence is contained in volume III, available on the committee website at www.parliament.uk/scottaff
Tuesday, 15 March 2011
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Tuesday, 15 March 2011
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c250 (Link to this contribution)
What about the Union?
Iain Stewart | 530 c250 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman has a little patience, I shall come to what I believe is the solution.
I fear...
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c250 (Link to this contribution)
Was any mention made in that debate of the massive defence underspend in Scotland, which is a huge s...
Iain Stewart | 530 c250 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. If the hon. Lady will let me develop my argument, I shall address those points. There is a l...
Fiona O'Donnell | 530 c249 (Link to this contribution)
Could the hon. Gentleman rise to the challenge of explaining to his constituents why there may be di...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c249 (Link to this contribution)
Among that raft of questions, has anyone ever asked the hon. Gentleman why the social security spend...
Iain Stewart | 530 c249 (Link to this contribution)
I challenge the hon. Gentleman's facts, because in preparing for the debate I read that often-thumbe...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c249 (Link to this contribution)
I said we have a solution.
Iain Stewart | 530 c249 (Link to this contribution)
I know, but I believe I have a better one and I shall turn to it in a moment.
The arguments are beg...
Iain Stewart | 530 c248-9 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak first to my amendment 24 before making some broader comments about some of the other a...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c246-8 (Link to this contribution)
Not just now.
However, as a result of the decisions taken by the UK Government in 2010 in the compr...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c246 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Stewart Hosie | 530 c245 (Link to this contribution)
That report is probably for the overall statistics. Sadly, because of the banking crisis, the banks'...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c245 (Link to this contribution)
I must take the hon. Gentleman up on the point about housing, because I understand—from a recent rep...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c245-6 (Link to this contribution)
I have given way twice—I am going to carry on.
As I was saying, the Scottish Parliament should have...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c245 (Link to this contribution)
Some projects were simply unaffordable, not least because a number of parties—the other three partie...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c245 (Link to this contribution)
Given what I understood to be the hon. Gentleman's party's green environmental credentials, I am sur...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c245 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady's surprise is a matter for her, not me. An investment programme is in place that inclu...
Speaker | 530 c258-9 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) has to resume her seat when it is clear t...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c259 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Do you think it possible that by 10 o'clock, I might actu...
Speaker | 530 c259 (Link to this contribution)
That is not within my gift, Mr Field, but let me say that I sincerely hope so.
Ann McKechin | 530 c259 (Link to this contribution)
I certainly hope that my right hon. Friend will have the time to do so, and I hope to conclude my re...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c259 (Link to this contribution)
Notwithstanding the hon. Lady's questions, do I take it from her answers that she sees some potentia...
Ann McKechin | 530 c259-60 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right to raise the serious problem of alcohol consumption in Scotland. As the ...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c260 (Link to this contribution)
First, I observe that on the minimum price of alcohol, the SNP minority Government were supported by...
Ann McKechin | 530 c260-1 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman must recognise that the cost of alcohol has increased by slightly more than infla...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c261 (Link to this contribution)
Finally on that point, and for the sake of completeness, I am sure the shadow Secretary of State wou...
Ann McKechin | 530 c261 (Link to this contribution)
The supermarkets might well have supported minimum pricing because they would receive a good degree ...
Pete Wishart | 530 c257 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Lady for the history lesson. Is this what we are going to get from the Lab...
Ann McKechin | 530 c257-8 (Link to this contribution)
If that is the level of intellectual debate that we can anticipate from the Scottish Government and ...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c258 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?
Ann McKechin | 530 c258 (Link to this contribution)
I would like to continue this point.
Does the SNP believe that a further tax cut for banks, which p...
Fiona O'Donnell | 530 c258 (Link to this contribution)
May I issue a word of caution to my hon. Friend about encouraging SNP Members to talk for any longer...
Ann McKechin | 530 c258 (Link to this contribution)
I can understand my hon. Friend's frustration. It is disappointing that the SNP has not taken the op...
Ann McKechin | 530 c258 (Link to this contribution)
The Scottish Government have to make those choices, and like my hon. Friend the Member for East Loth...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c258 (Link to this contribution)
That's a poor country, isn't it?
Ann McKechin | 530 c258 (Link to this contribution)
Actually, there has been very little increase in growth in Switzerland. There is no direct correlati...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c264 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman has mentioned a sourness creeping into politics, which everyone wants to av...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c264 (Link to this contribution)
I shall answer that intervention and finish on that very point. We do not have the information that ...
Alan Reid | 530 c264 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill and the Government's new clauses will bring about a substantial increase in the taxation an...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c264 (Link to this contribution)
Surely there is more to it than that. I often hear politicians and certain sectors of the media talk...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c264 (Link to this contribution)
The answer to that, briefly, is yes.
Reference has been made to the incredibly interesting debate h...
Alan Reid | 530 c265-6 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is correct. There would be an incentive for a white van man to drive south, fill up h...
Alan Reid | 530 c265 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, that is certainly very important, and the Scottish Government already have economic development...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c265 (Link to this contribution)
Is not that argument similar to a golfer being told, ““Of course you can go and play a round of golf...
Alan Reid | 530 c265 (Link to this contribution)
The Scottish Parliament already has more than a putter, and the Bill will give it a lot more clubs i...
Mike Crockart | 530 c265 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a fine case, but it is not just the people living close to the border who would...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c261-2 (Link to this contribution)
Whatever that means, I shall try to move on, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am grateful for that.
I wish t...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c262 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is making an interesting speech and has raised a fascinating point put to h...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c261 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to move new clause 8 and the consequential amendment 23, which stand in my name and the names...
Speaker | 530 c261 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I am sorry to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman, who has waited very patiently for his oppor...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c263 (Link to this contribution)
I might accept that there is an argument; my plea is that the information should be set out clearly ...
Ian Davidson | 530 c263-4 (Link to this contribution)
Like the hon. Member for Na h-Eileanan an Iar (Mr MacNeil), who spoke earlier, I think that these ar...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c262-3 (Link to this contribution)
Much as I admire my hon. Friend, I obviously should not have given way, because he is distracting me...
Pete Wishart | 530 c263 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is making a thoughtful speech and a fine contribution, but I am sure that w...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c262 (Link to this contribution)
I said, Madam Deputy Speaker, that I was anxious to speak briefly so that other people might be able...
Russell Brown | 530 c262 (Link to this contribution)
I want to put the record straight for my right hon. Friend and his constituents. He talks about free...
Iain Stewart | 530 c252 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. In calculating these figures, however, we should be careful o...
Iain Stewart | 530 c252 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. We also have to look at the equality of the benefits given b...
Mike Freer | 530 c252 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend accept that allocating funds simply on geography, particularly defence spending,...
Iain Stewart | 530 c252 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his point. May I infer that he is happy to retain the Triden...
Mike Weir | 530 c252 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member for Finchley and Golders Green (Mike Freer) makes a valid point as regards defence. ...
Iain Stewart | 530 c252 (Link to this contribution)
I challenge the hon. Gentleman's assumption about the lack, as he sees it, of economic benefits. I a...
Mike Weir | 530 c252 (Link to this contribution)
There is little or no economic benefit from the Trident base, and there is an extremely disproportio...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c252 (Link to this contribution)
As part of the Union, Scotland currently has a manifest defence underspend. There is no defence adva...
Iain Stewart | 530 c253 (Link to this contribution)
I have great respect for the hon. Gentleman in many matters, but this is not one of them. The argume...
Ian Davidson | 530 c253 (Link to this contribution)
It is important to put on the record that even under devolution Glasgow clearly gets far less than i...
Iain Stewart | 530 c250 (Link to this contribution)
The Barnett formula has not been in operation for the duration of the Union and only since 1978, so ...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c251 (Link to this contribution)
Over and above tax receipts, disaggregated spending might be a lot easier. Does the hon. Gentleman b...
Iain Stewart | 530 c251 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to the hon. Gentleman in a moment. His party, in calculating Scotland's share of the...
Iain Stewart | 530 c250 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend. I have a suggestion to make about how we can move forward. In this ...
Iain Stewart | 530 c251 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman anticipates my next point exactly. It is too crude to look at the four constituen...
Mark Lazarowicz | 530 c251 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman knows, spending per head in London is almost 50% higher than in the south-east...
Iain Stewart | 530 c251 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to come to some agreement with the hon. Gentleman. My solution is to provide a detailed b...
Ian Davidson | 530 c251 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the point that the hon. Gentleman is making, but with reference to the different parts ...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c256 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c256 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady clarify whether she is saying that she would welcome the First Minister coming to...
Fiona O'Donnell | 530 c256 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend regret the macho element that has crept into this debate? Does she, like me, reg...
Ann McKechin | 530 c255-6 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend raises a good point. The Scottish Government are advocating a cut in taxes for banks ...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c256 (Link to this contribution)
The last time I looked, welfare reform and pensions were matters reserved to this House. I certainly...
Ann McKechin | 530 c256 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend raises an interesting point about the issues that the Scottish Government have decide...
Mark Lazarowicz | 530 c255 (Link to this contribution)
No doubt there is a theoretical argument that cutting corporation tax for smaller or new businesses ...
Ann McKechin | 530 c256-7 (Link to this contribution)
If the First Minister had anything sensible to say, I would, but as yet, I have not heard it. It is ...
Ann McKechin | 530 c254 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the very wise remarks of the hon. Member for Milton Keynes South (Iain Stewart). He always...
Iain Stewart | 530 c254 (Link to this contribution)
Forgive me, but I am going to finish now. Many other Members wish to speak, and I look forward to th...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c254 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Iain Stewart | 530 c253-4 (Link to this contribution)
My amendment is very simple and would remove any ambiguity. If a passenger were on a cross-border ov...
Russell Brown | 530 c253 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. My intervening on him is causing disruption behind me. Wi...
Iain Stewart | 530 c253 (Link to this contribution)
One very last time.
Russell Brown | 530 c253 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Iain Stewart | 530 c253 (Link to this contribution)
Having been born and brought up in Hamilton, which is between Glasgow and Edinburgh, I am in somethi...
Baroness Hoey | 530 c254 (Link to this contribution)
He's gone to the loo.
Ann McKechin | 530 c254-5 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend and my hon. Friend the Member for Vauxhall (Kate Hoey), who I understand has re...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c242 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to a race to the bottom, but I do believe in tax competition. It is a pity that the ho...
Alan Reid | 530 c242 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman's argument is correct and reducing corporation tax results in an increased tax...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c242 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to the hon. Member for Argyll and Bute (Mr Reid), but then I shall try to move on to...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c242 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that the Minister agrees with my direction of travel. What I am saying is that the Scottis...
David Gauke | 530 c241 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is presenting the Laffer curve argument. He suggests that a corporation tax cut c...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c244 (Link to this contribution)
There are always borders. The hon. Gentleman was presumably one of the 28 Lib Dems who backed us in ...
Alan Reid | 530 c244 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with one of the hon. Gentleman's points: alcoholic drinks should be taxed on alcohol content...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c243-4 (Link to this contribution)
It is no such thing, as I am sure the hon. Gentleman's contacts in the Scotch whisky industry will c...
Brian H Donohoe | 530 c243 (Link to this contribution)
But it is getting to that point.
Stewart Hosie | 530 c243 (Link to this contribution)
I am prepared to recognise that duty did not rise for a number of years, but that is not the point I...
Brian H Donohoe | 530 c243 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman at least give credence to the fact that over a great number of years previou...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c243 (Link to this contribution)
I suspect that any MP trying to take a carry-out through airport security would immediately be stopp...
Jim Sheridan | 530 c242-3 (Link to this contribution)
As chair of the all-party parliamentary Scotch whisky and spirits group, I can tell the hon. Gentlem...
Jim Sheridan | 530 c242 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
David Gauke | 530 c241 (Link to this contribution)
I know that the hon. Gentleman is keen to move on from the subject of corporation tax, but I seek cl...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c241 (Link to this contribution)
Evidence that I have seen in a significant number of companies suggests that the reductions in block...
Mark Lazarowicz | 530 c241 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
Stewart Hosie | 530 c241 (Link to this contribution)
No, not on that point.
Stewart Hosie | 530 c241 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to the Minister.
David Mowat | 530 c240 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman made a powerful point a few moments ago, if I heard him aright. He said that, unl...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c240-1 (Link to this contribution)
I have two answers to that question. The first is that in the 40 years before the crisis, Scotland e...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c241 (Link to this contribution)
Not at this point.
New clause 9 would allow for the introduction of an additional devolved tax char...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c240 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman must have been asleep for the last 14 minutes, because that is precisely the ques...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c239-40 (Link to this contribution)
I have already given way five or six times and I want to make progress. There will be plenty of oppo...
Alan Reid | 530 c240 (Link to this contribution)
According to the hon. Gentleman's logic, if the power were devolved, the Scottish Government would r...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c239 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the optimism and do not want to cut through it in any way. However, the hon. Gentleman ...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c239 (Link to this contribution)
It will not be a reduction because we will have the corporation tax yield, which is comparable to th...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c238 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman let us and Scottish taxpayers know how that financial gap would be met in th...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c238-9 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady predicates her argument on failure, as Labour Members tend to do. There is no reason t...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c238 (Link to this contribution)
A permanent reduction for corporation tax to be devolved and taking responsibility for the income we...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c235 (Link to this contribution)
Speaking of sharing information, the Minister has raised the spectre of the Azores ruling, but a com...
David Gauke | 530 c235-6 (Link to this contribution)
The point I was making was that the cost would have to be borne by the Scottish Government, through ...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c236-7 (Link to this contribution)
As the Minister has pointed out, there is a large number of new clauses and amendments in this group...
Jim Sheridan | 530 c237 (Link to this contribution)
Far be it for me to be a cynic, but could it be that both Governments—the UK and the Scottish Govern...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c237-8 (Link to this contribution)
No. That would be extraordinarily cynical, and not something that even the hon. Gentleman in his daf...
Mark Lazarowicz | 530 c238 (Link to this contribution)
I want to be clear about what the hon. Gentleman is saying. He said that if there were to be a devol...
Brian H Donohoe | 530 c238 (Link to this contribution)
I ask a simple question: what does the hon. Gentleman mean by ““initially””?
Ian Davidson | 530 c235 (Link to this contribution)
Did not the Minister say earlier that the Government had produced their latest estimates only about ...
David Gauke | 530 c235 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is clearly anxious to move the debate on, and he makes a perfectly reasonable poi...
David Gauke | 530 c234 (Link to this contribution)
No, there has not, but I am sure that it is a priority and that they will arrive shortly.
Cathy Jamieson | 530 c235 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the reason the Scottish Government have not yet been able to produce the figures is that som...
David Gauke | 530 c234 (Link to this contribution)
I have to make a confession to the House: I have come only relatively recently to these issues. My u...
Russell Brown | 530 c234 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I should be directing this question not to the Minister but to the Secretary of State for Sc...
David Gauke | 530 c235 (Link to this contribution)
Or am I going to be encouraged to do some more? I give way to the hon. Gentleman.
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 530 c235 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister talks about the Scottish Government justifying why they should have this power, but hav...
David Gauke | 530 c235 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady may speculate about the reason, but it is not for me to do so. Perhaps I have done eno...
Mike Weir | 530 c234 (Link to this contribution)
It might have been difficult for the Scottish Government to provide that information during the purd...
David Gauke | 530 c235 (Link to this contribution)
It was about five minutes ago when we last set out the reasons that corporation tax remains a reserv...
David Gauke | 530 c233 (Link to this contribution)
Let me be clear: I am not making the case against lower corporation tax per se; I am saying that if ...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c233 (Link to this contribution)
A number of businesses moved to Ireland in the last Parliament to take advantage of lower corporatio...
David Gauke | 530 c234 (Link to this contribution)
We are talking about preliminary numbers, which I have put forward on the basis of early estimates p...
Ian Davidson | 530 c233-4 (Link to this contribution)
This relates to the Minister's point about the Azores judgment—people in my constituency speak of li...
David Gauke | 530 c232-3 (Link to this contribution)
The Calman commission did not recommend devolving corporation tax as substantial practical profit sh...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c232 (Link to this contribution)
My recollection is that the Calman commission refused to rule out devolving corporation tax, should ...
David Gauke | 530 c233 (Link to this contribution)
But the Calman commission did not say that that was the right way forward at this point. As I have s...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c233 (Link to this contribution)
It is important to differentiate the substantive point of whether this Government support devolving ...
Ann McKechin | 530 c234 (Link to this contribution)
I think I am correct in saying that the Minister for Culture and External Affairs in the Scottish Go...
David Gauke | 530 c234 (Link to this contribution)
I look to others for inspiration on the precise details, but we are certainly talking about months. ...
David Mowat | 530 c230 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
David Gauke | 530 c230 (Link to this contribution)
The Government understand the concerns expressed about the devolved funding arrangements, but we hav...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c230 (Link to this contribution)
Might the Minister tell the House whether he thinks that the Barnett formula is now fair? If it is n...
David Gauke | 530 c230 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the right hon. Gentleman will continue this debate.
David Gauke | 530 c230 (Link to this contribution)
Of course, and there are regional variations within all the four nations. The point is that there ar...
Russell Brown | 530 c230 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister mentioned the four nations, but I am sure he will want to correct that, because not onl...
David Gauke | 530 c230-2 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the views expressed by my hon. Friend. There are a number of changes and developments i...
David Gauke | 530 c230 (Link to this contribution)
And I know that there is one hon. Member in particular who will take that opportunity.
David Mowat | 530 c230 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that the Exchequer Secretary does not want to spend too long now talking about the Barn...
David Gauke | 530 c228 (Link to this contribution)
We must remember that any debt service will be financed by the Scottish taxpayer—that is the context...
Andrea Leadsom | 530 c228 (Link to this contribution)
For the sake of clarity, the Minister tells my hon. Friend the Member for Warrington South (David Mo...
David Gauke | 530 c228-9 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think it an unprecedented statement. I am sure that the hon. Gentleman and I have served on...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c228 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister suggests that various Opposition Members from various parties do not press their amendm...
David Gauke | 530 c229 (Link to this contribution)
Partly following the strictures of the hon. Member for Dundee East, I would say that I am loth, at t...
Baroness Hoey | 530 c229 (Link to this contribution)
I understand why the Minister does not think that discussion of the Barnett formula is appropriate f...
Mark Lazarowicz | 530 c229 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will want to confirm that if my hon. Friend the Member for Vauxhal...
David Gauke | 530 c229 (Link to this contribution)
As I said, I appreciate that there are strong views on this issue, and that they will be expressed t...
David Gauke | 530 c230 (Link to this contribution)
And now I will hear another perspective.
David Gauke | 530 c223-5 (Link to this contribution)
It gives me great pleasure to return to the House to discuss the Scotland Bill after the Committee d...
Andrea Leadsom | 530 c227 (Link to this contribution)
If that debt must be consolidated with the UK's national debt, it should surely be considered as qua...
David Gauke | 530 c225-7 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make it clear that Government amendment 32 would not grant the power of issuing bonds to t...
Speaker | 530 c225 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I am not sure that that is relevant to the debate.
David Mowat | 530 c227 (Link to this contribution)
A few moments ago, the Minister mentioned the pre-payment amount for the Forth road bridge. Did the ...
David Gauke | 530 c227 (Link to this contribution)
We must certainly understand the wider UK consequences of that. That is why there is a cap. In the G...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c227 (Link to this contribution)
For the sake of clarity, will the Minister confirm that that £2.2 billion is a cumulative sum, and t...
David Gauke | 530 c227-8 (Link to this contribution)
The decision on whether to put a toll on the Forth road bridge will be one for the Scottish Governme...
Speaker | 530 c222-3 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
David Gauke | 530 c222 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 530 c294 (Link to this contribution)
We are about to come to the Adjournment and I appeal to right hon. and hon. Members who are leaving ...
Speaker | 530 c294 (Link to this contribution)
My powers do not extend to the refutation of nonsense.
Ian Davidson | 530 c294 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not neo-fascist to attempt to shout down speakers with whom one disagrees? We have had robust ...
Speaker | 530 c294 (Link to this contribution)
I hope it is a point of order.
Ian Davidson | 530 c293-4 (Link to this contribution)
It is very difficult to summarise several months of work in three minutes. I commend the Scottish Af...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c294 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Mr Speaker.
Speaker | 530 c292 (Link to this contribution)
Order. In calling Mr Iain Stewart, I ask him to consider the merits of allowing a couple of minutes ...
Iain Stewart | 530 c292-3 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr Speaker, I shall make a very brief contribution. I just want to congratulate the Gover...
Robert Smith | 530 c291 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman spoke of a personal attack on his leader from the Opposition Front Bench. Does he...
Pete Wishart | 530 c290 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way, for the very last time.
Russell Brown | 530 c290 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Pete Wishart | 530 c290 (Link to this contribution)
I will not give way to the hon. Gentleman again.
We know what the Scottish people want when it come...
Pete Wishart | 530 c290 (Link to this contribution)
I think that we had something a few weeks ago that was called an election, and manifestos were prese...
Pete Wishart | 530 c290 (Link to this contribution)
I have only 10 minutes left.
The Bill contains unpalatable measures that are totally unacceptable t...
Robert Smith | 530 c290 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Pete Wishart | 530 c290 (Link to this contribution)
I do not have time to give way.
I can only ask Members to continue down that route so that we can c...
Speaker | 530 c292 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Member for Paisley and Renfrewshire North (Jim Sheridan) must resume his seat.
Pete Wishart | 530 c292 (Link to this contribution)
I am not going to give way to the hon. Gentleman. As he is standing right next to me, I do not know ...
Pete Wishart | 530 c291 (Link to this contribution)
I am almost grateful to the hon. Gentleman, because he has referred to a measure with which I want t...
Pete Wishart | 530 c291 (Link to this contribution)
I have said that I will not give way again, and I will not, even to the right hon. and learned Gentl...
Jim Sheridan | 530 c291 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Pete Wishart | 530 c291 (Link to this contribution)
I will not give way again. I say to the Secretary of State—
Pete Wishart | 530 c292 (Link to this contribution)
I am not going to give way to the hon. Gentleman. Must I say that a third time?
I say to the Secret...
Mark Lazarowicz | 530 c284-5 (Link to this contribution)
Mine is a narrower point. Will the right hon. Gentleman give an assurance that, if amendments come f...
Michael Moore | 530 c284 (Link to this contribution)
I have just set out the criteria against which we would assess any suggested further amendments. The...
Ann McKechin | 530 c285-6 (Link to this contribution)
As we made clear on Second Reading and in Committee, Labour welcomes the Scotland Bill because we be...
Michael Moore | 530 c285 (Link to this contribution)
My distinguished colleagues, the Leader of the House and the Deputy Leader of House, were just indic...
Russell Brown | 530 c284 (Link to this contribution)
The Liberal Democrats, the Conservatives and the Labour party want this legislation, but the Secreta...
Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 530 c287 (Link to this contribution)
Of the two cases that have proved so controversial, the first dealt with the protection of a person ...
Pete Wishart | 530 c286 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her history lesson, but she will know, as the Secretary of State ...
Ann McKechin | 530 c286 (Link to this contribution)
What I would say to the hon. Gentleman is that we are aware that the McCluskey review is ongoing, an...
Anne McGuire | 530 c286 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the furore about the Supreme Court over the past few weeks smacks of ...
Ann McKechin | 530 c287 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is right to say that this row has emerged from absolutely nowhere, and has aris...
Alan Reid | 530 c288-9 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill brings about a substantial increase in the powers that are devolved to the Scottish Parliam...
Ann McKechin | 530 c288 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has very particular views about European human rights legislation, but I support ...
William Cash | 530 c288 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady acknowledge that the real problem is that this dispute is not so much about the S...
Ann McKechin | 530 c287-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Lady, a fellow lawyer. I do not want to turn this into a lawyers' conferen...
Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 530 c287 (Link to this contribution)
I would never claim to be one of our country's eminent legal minds, but, like the hon. Lady, I am a ...
Ann McKechin | 530 c287 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. and learned Gentleman speaks with considerable expertise on legal issues. I do not wa...
Pete Wishart | 530 c289-90 (Link to this contribution)
We said on Second Reading that we would seek to strengthen and improve the Bill, offer real scrutiny...
Russell Brown | 530 c290 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way; he obviously has some time left. I hope that in the next ...
Ian Davidson | 530 c289 (Link to this contribution)
I want to pick up on the issue of process. Amendments have been defeated tonight, but they will prob...
Alan Reid | 530 c289 (Link to this contribution)
I certainly agree with the Chairman of the Scottish Affairs Committee and hope that his Select Commi...
Ian Davidson | 530 c266-7 (Link to this contribution)
I would like to speak to the amendments but also to refer to some sections of the Scottish Affairs C...
Alan Reid | 530 c266 (Link to this contribution)
But they would also fill up their cars with fuel when they were outside Argyll. The hon. Gentleman m...
Mark Lazarowicz | 530 c267 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
Ian Davidson | 530 c267 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend allow me to finish my point, for the avoidance of doubt? Edinburgh as a centre o...
Mark Lazarowicz | 530 c267-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way, and I am glad that he made it clear that when he spe...
Ian Davidson | 530 c268 (Link to this contribution)
If my hon. Friend is saying that the sucking of powers into Edinburgh has not benefited Edinburgh, t...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c268 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman and I sat through some very long evidence sessions with any number of erudite pro...
Speaker | 530 c268 (Link to this contribution)
Order. That is a very long intervention, but I feel sure that the hon. Lady is nearing her final sen...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c268 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the way to secure the Scottish economy is to create jobs?
David Mowat | 530 c271-3 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make a few points about the excellent speech made by the right hon. Member for Birkenhead ...
Ian Davidson | 530 c269-71 (Link to this contribution)
That is true, but that is a slightly different point. The business community was absolutely clear th...
Mike Freer | 530 c269 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way and I pay tribute to his chairmanship of the Scot...
Ian Davidson | 530 c268-9 (Link to this contribution)
Well, that is a hard one, isn't it! Yes, clearly the way to improve the Scottish economy is to creat...
Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 530 c282 (Link to this contribution)
May we take it that, as a result of the earlier proceedings, Government new clause 13 is now part of...
Michael Moore | 530 c282-3 (Link to this contribution)
First, I confirm what my right hon. and learned Friend suggests. New clause 13 is now part of the Bi...
Michael Moore | 530 c281-2 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
I am very grateful to Members who have tak...
William Cash | 530 c283 (Link to this contribution)
On the application of the Human Rights Act 1998 in this context, and conceding that the Supreme Cour...
Michael Moore | 530 c283-4 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the hon. Gentleman to the proceedings on the Scotland Bill, albeit belatedly, and commend ...
David Mundell | 530 c220 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,
That the Order of 27 January 2011 (Scotland Bill (Programme)) be varied as follows:
...
Pete Wishart | 530 c221 (Link to this contribution)
I do not know what planet the Minister is living on if he thinks that three hours is enough to discu...
David Mowat | 530 c250 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right. If a change is made to the block grant, as it must be at some point soon, t...
Ann McKechin | 530 c256 (Link to this contribution)
I do not discredit the hon. Lady for making strong statements in this Chamber. However, I find it ex...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c241 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way one more time to the Minister.
Alan Reid | 530 c241 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Stewart Hosie | 530 c238 (Link to this contribution)
It has to be initially to get this kicked in. At that point, the Scottish Government are rightly res...
David Gauke | 530 c227 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, that is the case, but we must consider the consequences of that borrowing for the UK's debt pos...
Tom Greatrex | 530 c220-1 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the opportunity to debate the Scotland Bill yet again. For many of us it has been a long p...
Pete Wishart | 530 c292 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr Speaker. It takes a long time for Members to understand that I am not going to give wa...
Stewart Hosie | 530 c294 (Link to this contribution)
The use of this neo-fascist description is absurd, offensive and wrong in every single regard. What ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 530 c273-4 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make a few points on the question of whether corporation tax should be devolved to the Sco...
Jim Sheridan | 530 c244 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that this does create jobs. Can he therefore justify his Gove...
Ann McKechin | 530 c256 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is jumping up to speak.
Jonathan Edwards | 530 c225 (Link to this contribution)
After the Bill has been passed, the Welsh Government will be the only political entity in the Britis...
Mike Weir | 530 c266 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is making a case, but for many years people have been going on holiday to other j...
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