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Public Bodies Bill [HL]

Debate on bills on Monday, 28 March 2011, in the House of Lords.
Public Bodies Bill (HL). Lords report stage second day.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
726 c956-1025, c1037-76 
Session
2010-12
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
Government defeats
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Public Bodies Bill (HL). As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 9 March 2011
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2011-0716
Monday, 28 March 2011
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Grade of Yarmouth | 726 c1015-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare a past history of relationships with S4C through my involvement at Channel 4 and...
Baroness Morgan of Ely | 726 c1012-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am extremely sorry that, despite the impassioned pleas by this House on the issue of wit...

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Lord Crickhowell | 726 c1013-5 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the House will forgive me for not having been present for the debate. I understand that ...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 726 c1011-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Roberts of Conwy, has, in a most endearing way, explained to the Hous...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 726 c1010 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendment 40, which stands in my name. In so doing I remind folk, possibly those wh...
Lord Morris of Aberavon | 726 c1009 (Link to this contribution) In the interests of brevity, I shall make just two points. There must be a meaningful and transparen...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 726 c1006-9 (Link to this contribution) I speak to Amendment 34B. In the course of Committee debate on S4C, I suggested that the reorganisat...
Lord Wigley | 726 c1004-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare my interest in matters relating to S4C, as I did in Committee. I beg to move Ame...
Lord Wigley | 726 c1004 (Link to this contribution) 29A: Clause 3, page 2, line 37, at end insert— ““( ) To the extent that this section may be applicab...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1004 (Link to this contribution) 28: Clause 3, page 2, line 11, leave out ““Subject to section 16,”” Amendment 28 agreed. Amendment...
Lord Marlesford | 726 c1039-40 (Link to this contribution) I support totally what was said by the noble Lord, Lord Judd, and by my noble friend. There are very...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c1025 (Link to this contribution) 30: Schedule 3, page 17, line 16, at end insert— ““Administrative Justice and Tribunals Council.”” ...
Lord Wigley | 726 c1022 (Link to this contribution) No, if the Minister wants to intervene to correct me, I will by all means give way. But if she does ...
Lord Judd | 726 c1037-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the absence of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, I rise to move Amendment 31 and to speak t...
Lord Judd | 726 c1037 (Link to this contribution) 31: Schedule 3, page 17, line 18, leave out ““Broads Authority.””
Baroness Rawlings | 726 c1017-21 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had another full and passionate debate today, and it is clear that this is an incr...
Baroness Gale | 726 c1016-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree that this has been another great and passionate debate. There have been contributi...
Lord Wigley | 726 c1021-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the House has listened with considerable interest to the more substantial reply that we ha...
Earl Attlee | 726 c1046-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment would remove Passenger Focus from Schedule 3, preventing our current propos...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 726 c1040 (Link to this contribution) I very much support the amendment. The noble Lord, Lord Judd, referred to the quality of our nationa...
Lord Judd | 726 c1044-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I thank the noble Lord for his response and for its friendly tones, which I appreci...
Lord Henley | 726 c1042-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will respond to Amendments 31 and 34 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. I woul...
Baroness Quin | 726 c1041-2 (Link to this contribution) I, too, support my noble friend Lord Judd in his amendment. I was very struck by the support that, e...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 726 c1040 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly in view of the fact that the principal questions to which I wish to have an...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 726 c1046 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may briefly support my noble friend in saying that I hope that the noble Earl wi...
Lord Whitty | 726 c1045-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my comment this evening is basically: why is Passenger Focus still here in the Bill? As th...
Lord Whitty | 726 c1045 (Link to this contribution) 34A: Schedule 3, page 17, line 24, leave out ““Passengers’ Council (““Passenger Focus””).””
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c1045 (Link to this contribution) 32: Schedule 3, page 17, line 18, at end insert— ““Civil Justice Council.”” Amendment 32 agreed. A...
Lord Crickhowell | 726 c1048 (Link to this contribution) 34B: Schedule 3, page 17, line 24, at end insert— ““Sianel Pedwar Cymru (““S4C””).”” Amendment 34B ...
Lord Whitty | 726 c1048 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl, although some of his assurances were not quite as unequiv...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c1048 (Link to this contribution) 37: Schedule 4, page 17, line 27, at end insert— ““Administrative Justice and Tribunals Council. Civ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1048 (Link to this contribution) 35: Clause 4, page 2, line 39, leave out ““Subject to section 16,”” Amendment 35 agreed. Amendment...
Lord Whitty | 726 c1048-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 39 I wish to speak also to Amendment 54. Essentially, my question to t...
Lord Whitty | 726 c1048 (Link to this contribution) 39: Schedule 4, page 18, line 5, leave out ““Office of Communications (““Ofcom””).””
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 726 c1050-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Whitty for continuing to champion the organisations ...
Lord Fowler | 726 c1050 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree entirely with the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, that Ofcom is an extremely important bo...
Lord Whitty | 726 c1053 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for those assurances as they have taken us a little further than prev...
Baroness Rawlings | 726 c1051-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for tabling these amendments and for giving the Gover...
Viscount Falkland | 726 c980-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think there is any point in rehearsing what I said when the noble Baroness moved ...
Baroness Whitaker | 726 c980 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 21C, I take it as given that the immense value of libraries to ou...
Baroness Whitaker | 726 c979-80 (Link to this contribution) 21C: Schedule 1, page 16, line 36, at end insert— ““(4) Notwithstanding the future of the Library Ad...
Lord Warner | 726 c976-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to everybody who has spoken in this debate. There have been many powerful sp...
Lord McNally | 726 c973-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thought of leaving a long pause to wait for one of my supporters to stand up and make hi...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 726 c971-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I suppose that I, too, should declare an interest as someone who has practised in the fiel...
Viscount Eccles | 726 c971 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I spoke in Committee and I have not had the benefit of any discussions between Committee a...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 726 c968-9 (Link to this contribution) I intervene briefly to give a practical example of the value and the practical work of the Youth Jus...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 726 c969-71 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble and learned Lord, who is a former Lord Chief Justice, I did not speak in Co...
Lord Elton | 726 c966-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have moved behind my noble friend not to threaten him but because my voice is very uncer...
Lord Whitty | 726 c984 (Link to this contribution) I beg your Lordships’ pardon. Amendment 22 agreed. Amendments 23 and 24 not moved. Schedule 2 : P...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c984 (Link to this contribution) 22: Clause 2, page 1, line 15, leave out ““Subject to section 16,””
Baroness Whitaker | 726 c983-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken. They have all added appreciably to the debate. I ...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c981 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak briefly. I think that in the amendment in the name of the noble Baroness, La...
Baroness Bakewell | 726 c981-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not spoken on the subject of libraries previously and I support the noble Baroness ...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 726 c982 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Whitaker for pursuing this issue today and for allowing noble...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c991 (Link to this contribution) 26: Schedule 2, page 17, line 14, at end insert— ““Group 5 Administrative Justice and Tribunals Coun...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c990-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken because I think this has been very useful debate. ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 726 c989-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is important that this is just a preliminary stage to enable this consultation to happe...
Lord Whitty | 726 c989 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my apologies for my premature intervention earlier. I will not repeat everything that my c...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c991-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, until about an hour ago I had intended and expected to wind up this speech by claiming a c...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c984 (Link to this contribution) 25: Schedule 2, page 17, line 14, at end insert— ““Group 5 Competition Commission. Office of Fair Tr...
Baroness Kingsmill | 726 c987-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support much of what my noble friend Lord Borrie has just said. I have always been in fa...
Lord Dubs | 726 c988-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister promised us a consultation document when we debated this in Committee, and we...
Lord Borrie | 726 c986-7 (Link to this contribution) It would be churlish of me not to welcome the 172-page document that has been issued. I have been on...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 726 c997 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in view of what has been said, perhaps I may take this opportunity to indicate that this a...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 726 c996-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, since the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay, does not seem to be tempted by his noble fr...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c1000-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a number of points have been made. If I attempted to answer them all, I would rerun both t...
Lord Archer of Sandwell | 726 c993 (Link to this contribution) Since the noble Lord was kind enough to tempt me to my feet, would he agree that many local tribunal...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c993 (Link to this contribution) I agree. It tempts me to extend my remarks a fraction further to a point I had omitted. The Ministry...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 726 c993 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend bemoaned the fact that the judges had all fled, but the noble Lord, Lord Elystan-Mor...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c993 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to both my noble and learned friend and the noble Lord, Lord Elystan-Morgan. I had in mi...
Lord Howe of Aberavon | 726 c994-5 (Link to this contribution) I do not rise for brownie points, which I probably deserve in no circumstances whatever. I am rather...
Lord Borrie | 726 c995-6 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Newton of Braintree, on devising a way of trying to ensure some ...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c966 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am feeling rather good because, in the course of the past 20 minutes or so, I have given...
Lord Beecham | 726 c963-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by tendering an apology to the Youth Justice Board and to your Lordships' House fo...
Bishop of Ripon and Leeds | 726 c965-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support Amendment 20A. It is the experience of a number of Members of this Bench t...
Lord Woolf | 726 c961-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that your Lordships will forgive me, because I have not spoken to the amendment at ...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 726 c962-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it gives me enormous pleasure to follow my hero, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Woolf, w...
Lord St John of Fawsley | 726 c959 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, I hope that I may ask this question. Does the Minister have any idea wh...
Earl of Listowel | 726 c960-1 (Link to this contribution) I echo the many tributes paid in Committee to the Minister and his colleague, Crispin Blunt, for the...
Baroness Hayman | 726 c957 (Link to this contribution) I have to inform the House that if the amendment is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 21B, by reason o...
Lord Ramsbotham | 726 c957-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak to the amendment and to echo what the noble Lord, Lord Warner, said about ...
Lord Warner | 726 c956-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to move the amendment in my name and those of the noble Lords, Lord Ramsbotham and ...
Lord Warner | 726 c956 (Link to this contribution) 20A: Schedule 1, page 16, line 23, leave out ““Youth Justice Board for England and Wales.””
Earl Howe | 726 c1069-70 (Link to this contribution) In theory, my noble friend makes a constructive suggestion. We have considered that option and, I am...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 726 c1069 (Link to this contribution) Would it not be possible to include a new clause in the Health and Social Care Bill to set up the ne...
Baroness Deech | 726 c1070 (Link to this contribution) Will that same option in the consultation apply to the HFEA, whereby its functions can be kept toget...
Earl Howe | 726 c1070-1 (Link to this contribution) The direction of travel for the HFEA is one that we have mapped out. I am not aware that we are cons...
Baroness Thornton | 726 c1071-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for another detailed response. I also thank the noble Lord, Lord Willis, the no...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1072 (Link to this contribution) 51: Schedule 5, page 18, line 17, at end insert— ““Keeper of Public Records.”” Amendment 51 agreed....
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1072-3 (Link to this contribution) 53: Schedule 5, page 18, line 18, leave out ““National Park authorities in England.”” Amendment 53 ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1073 (Link to this contribution) 55: Schedule 5, page 18, line 20, at end insert— ““Public Records Office.”” Amendment 55 agreed. C...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1073 (Link to this contribution) 57: Clause 6, leave out Clause 6 Amendment 57 agreed. Schedule 6 : Power to authorise delegation: ...
Lord Taylor of Blackburn | 726 c1073 (Link to this contribution) 58: Schedule 6, leave out Schedule 6 Amendment 58 agreed. Clause 7 : Consequential provision etc ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1073 (Link to this contribution) 60: Clause 7, page 4, line 4, at end insert— ““( ) An order under sections 1 to 5 may include provis...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1073 (Link to this contribution) 59: Clause 7, page 3, line 43, leave out subsection (4) Amendment 59 agreed. Amendment 60 Moved b...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1076 (Link to this contribution) I thank noble Lords for the general welcome given to these amendments. I thank those on the oppositi...
Lord Goodhart | 726 c1075 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have again tabled an amendment that I tabled in Committee, and which is now Amendment 72...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 726 c1075 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. We certainly support him in his Amendments 60 and 69C and w...
Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 726 c1058-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare my interest as chair of the Human Tissue Authority. I and my authority remain co...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 726 c1060-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, for missing her opening remarks in intro...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 726 c1057-8 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness leaves the issue of ethics, if the agency model is developed, which would ...
Baroness Thornton | 726 c1058 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Willis, makes the point extremely well and much more eloquently than I was able...
Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 726 c1066-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have three brief questions for the Minister, which concern the HFEA database, research a...
Baroness Deech | 726 c1062-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a former chair of the HFEA. My name is on this amendment, and I s...
Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 726 c1068 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for giving way. In relation to that last point, when the impact assessment is m...
Earl Howe | 726 c1068-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that I am chancing my arm by saying that that is my understanding of what t...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 726 c1053 (Link to this contribution) 40: Schedule 4, page 18, line 6, leave out ““Sianel Pedwar Cymru (““S4C””).””
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 726 c1053 (Link to this contribution) I thank very much those who have taken part in our debates over a number of days. We have at least i...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 726 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that those on the Front Bench agree. I would say that jaw, jaw is better than war, war. Th...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1054 (Link to this contribution) 42: Clause 5, page 3, line 2, leave out ““Subject to section 16,”” Amendment 42 agreed. Amendment ...
Lord McNally | 726 c1054 (Link to this contribution) 44: Schedule 5, page 18, line 8, at end insert— ““Advisory Council on Public Records.””
Lord McNally | 726 c1054-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the three amendments in this group are in the name of my noble friend Lord Taylor of Holbe...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1056 (Link to this contribution) 45: Schedule 5, page 18, line 8, at end insert— ““Administrative Justice and Tribunals Council.”” ...
Baroness Thornton | 726 c1056 (Link to this contribution) 49: Schedule 5, page 18, line 15, leave out ““Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority.””
Baroness Thornton | 726 c1056-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we turn to Amendments 49 and 50 and the subject of the HFEA and the HTA somewhat late in t...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 726 c1039 (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Lord, Lord Judd, in the questions that he put. I remember, when the NERC Act was...
Baroness Rawlings | 726 c982-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken. I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Whitake...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c984-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, now we are on Amendment 25 and I am sure that the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, will be pleased...
Lord McNally | 726 c997-1000 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that convinces me only that the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay, can resist anything e...
Viscount Eccles | 726 c1076 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the first three amendments in this group are very welcome. Going right the way back to Sec...
Earl Howe | 726 c1067-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords for providing us with a further opportunity to debate the fut...
Lord Warner | 726 c1064-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support this amendment. I am conscious that I must guard against triumphalism after the ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c1073-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, even at this late hour, it gives me great pleasure to introduce this group of amendments, ...
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