Parliamentary search - Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill

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2010-12

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Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory notes also published (HL Bill 26-EN).
Wednesday, 3 November 2010
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Lord Graham of Edmonton | 724 c1220-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will raise one point. The Leader of the House made a very welcome statement. The amendme...

Lord Mawhinney | 724 c1220 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the spirit of the Chamber, I want to make two simple and quick points. I make a comment...

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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1218-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we welcome the amendment spoken to by the noble Baroness, Lady D’Souza, the noble and lear...

Lord Pannick | 724 c1218 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 94A. I agree with everything that has been said by the n...

Lord Woolf | 724 c1217-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is not necessary for me to say anything but a few words more than what the Convenor of ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1275-6 (Link to this contribution) At the risk of the noble Lord, Lord Rennard, giving his automatic counter another click so that he c...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1276-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will intervene only briefly and do not really want to go down all the roads that I went ...

Baroness McDonagh | 724 c1275 (Link to this contribution) That is absolutely right, and that is why I hope the Government will consider this. I also hope that...

Lord Rennard | 724 c1275 (Link to this contribution) I am sure the noble Baroness will respond to the debate, but I just wanted to raise a couple of ques...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1277-8 (Link to this contribution) I, too, stand convicted of being convinced by the rubbish recommendation of the Electoral Commission...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1278 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, what an interesting debate this has been, with noble Lords changing their minds about what...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1280-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, towards the end of a long speakers list in a debate in this House, someone stands up and s...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1280 (Link to this contribution) 102C: Schedule 1, page 16, line 8, at end insert— ““( ) The minimum period between the passing of th...

Baroness McDonagh | 724 c1279-80 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Committee for its contributions to the debate. I will quickly answer a few questions and...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1278-9 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Lord sounded as though he agreed to it in principle but thought that the imple...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1268-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is an important amendment. It is designed to try to promote the settlement of an impa...

Lord Rennard | 724 c1269-70 (Link to this contribution) Will the noble and learned Lord tell the Committee whether it is his view and, perhaps, that of his ...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1270 (Link to this contribution) I am very disappointed that the noble Lord, Lord Rennard, has responded in an incredibly unconstruct...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 724 c1270 (Link to this contribution) It is clear that a significant effort is being made, and I would like to pay my own tribute to the l...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1270-1 (Link to this contribution) Those words spoken by the noble Lord, Lord Newton, himself a former Leader of the House of Commons, ...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1271-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Williamson, for having introduced this amendment, which he di...

Lord Williamson of Horton | 724 c1272-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to comment briefly on the point which the Leader of the House made about the ...

Baroness McDonagh | 724 c1273 (Link to this contribution) 102BA: Clause 18, page 15, line 16, at end insert— ““( ) Section 11 shall not come into force until ...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1275 (Link to this contribution) Is the real danger of individual registration that when it comes to the second boundary review—in so...

Baroness McDonagh | 724 c1273-5 (Link to this contribution) This amendment is not a criticism of the Government but an opportunity to right a wrong created by m...

Lord Tyler | 724 c1283 (Link to this contribution) I was Chief Whip for my party in the other place. It never stopped me speaking.

Lord McAvoy | 724 c1283 (Link to this contribution) That is absolutely right, but that is the difference between a party that aspires to power and a par...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1281-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I intervene briefly and again address my remarks to the Liberal Democrats. They know from ...

Lord Rooker | 724 c1282-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the only way in which the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, could correctly say that his amendment ...

Lord McAvoy | 724 c1283 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, three of my noble friends who support proportional representation have spoken, so it is on...

Countess of Mar | 724 c1253 (Link to this contribution) Before I call Amendment 100A, I have to tell noble Lords that if this amendment is agreed to, I cann...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1252-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as has been indicated by the noble Lord, Lord Bach, one of the purposes of this clause is ...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1251-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the number of parliamentary constituencies in Wales is to be reduced, it must inevitabl...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1254 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, all three amendments in this group seek to place a higher threshold on passing any order c...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1253-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is traditional with all Bills for both Houses of Parliament to seem to ascribe still hi...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1253 (Link to this contribution) 100A: Clause 14, page 14, line 34, at end insert ““by the affirmative resolution procedure””

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1257-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, has moved an amendment that seeks to apply additional parliam...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1256-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment of my noble friend Lord Lipsey is self-evidently proper. The legislation pro...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1254-6 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lords are not moving their amendments, so I will not comment on them. My noble friend Lor...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1246-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I apologise for the fact that I arrived back in the Chamber seconds too late to mov...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1246 (Link to this contribution) 100: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause— ““Assistant Commissioners’ report (1) The Com...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1247 (Link to this contribution) I am so sorry if I was unclear. I explained that I thought that that new provision might increase th...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1247 (Link to this contribution) In light of the Government’s agreement that provision shall after all be made for public inquiries w...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1249 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may preface my remarks by taking up the point that the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, ...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1248-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is quite an important amendment because it relates to what happened earlier this afte...

Lord Bach | 724 c1250-1 (Link to this contribution) My noble and learned friend Lord Falconer of Thoroton and my noble friends Lady McDonagh and Lord Ke...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1249-50 (Link to this contribution) Coming so soon after the progress that we have made this afternoon, I obviously entirely accept what...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1266 (Link to this contribution) I indicated that the commissions' reports on performance standards for electoral registration office...

Lord Soley | 724 c1266 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has said that that will encourage improvement and I understand that. We all have to loo...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1264-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment, as has been made clear, concerns the commencement of the provisions relati...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1263-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we all accept that it is desirable in any case to improve electoral registration, but I ta...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 724 c1263 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may briefly intervene. I am too often tempted in these debates, but this will, o...

Lord Soley | 724 c1262-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. It touches on two things. The first is the general principle that...

Lord Bach | 724 c1261-2 (Link to this contribution) In that case, congratulations are in order all round. The point is interesting, but we could improve...

Lord Tyler | 724 c1261 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it was not I. The point was presented much more powerfully on his side of the House, and I...

Lord Williamson of Horton | 724 c1266 (Link to this contribution) 102AB: Clause 18, page 15, line 14, at end insert— ““(1A) Sections 10(2) and 11 shall come into forc...

Lord Williamson of Horton | 724 c1266-8 (Link to this contribution) This amendment relates to the date of the coming into force of Clause 11, which will be Section 11 i...

Baroness McDonagh | 724 c1260 (Link to this contribution) Is my noble friend aware that there is a legal duty to register? It is the choice of the citizen whe...

Lord Bach | 724 c1260 (Link to this contribution) Of course the noble Lord is right. There are some people who decide, as a matter of choice, not to v...

Baroness Golding | 724 c1261 (Link to this contribution) I think that what was said was that it was a legal requirement but that, as far as the Minister knew...

Lord Bach | 724 c1260-1 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to my noble friend for reminding the Committee of that. During the course of...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1259 (Link to this contribution) 102: Clause 18, page 15, line 12, at end insert— ““( ) Part 1 of this Act shall not come into force ...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1258-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot claim to be absolutely convinced by every word that the Minister has just said. I...

Lord Lawson of Blaby | 724 c1260 (Link to this contribution) I have noted what the noble Lord has said. Does he consider that there may be some people—perhaps a ...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1259-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Deputy Prime Minister has frequently tried to place the Bill in the proud lineage of g...

Lord Tyler | 724 c1261 (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Lord revert to the question of timing? I expect that the noble Lord and I both recall...

Lord Bach | 724 c1261 (Link to this contribution) I think that that puts the law in a very interesting position on this important point. I am grateful...

Lord Bach | 724 c1261 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is too modest. I think that it was he who made the powerful speech making that point—...

Baroness D'Souza | 724 c1223-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much thank the Minister for his words and for the spirit in which he expressed them...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 724 c1224 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having heard the debate and the Minister’s response on the amendment to my amendment, and ...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1235-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clause 12 is headed ““Boundary Commission proposals: publicity and consultation””. I am in...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1236-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am particularly pleased that we are making such great progress on the Bill. It is very e...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1237-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer of Thoroton, and the noble Lord, Lord Fo...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1238-9 (Link to this contribution) The way it is done at the moment is that Boundary Commission reports are issued within England or Sc...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1239 (Link to this contribution) The answer I gave was not intended to be specific to the issue of public hearings, but rather was me...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1221 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps it would help if I replied to the noble Lord, Lord Graham of Edmonton, who has eno...

Bishop of Guildford | 724 c1221 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will not go into technicalities, but I wish to express strong support from the Bishops’ ...

Lord Baker of Dorking | 724 c1246 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not give way to the noble Lord: I think we have heard enough from him and that he should ...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1245 (Link to this contribution) It was a word used by the noble and learned Lord the Minister, I think the noble Lord will find.

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1245 (Link to this contribution) If I might interrupt this momentary and rather fascinating debate about statutory drafting, my exper...

Lord Baker of Dorking | 724 c1245-6 (Link to this contribution) That last point is a very fair point. If there are to be public inquiries as well, I am sure that th...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1244 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord for answering the questions. I was trying to get at two ...

Lord Tyler | 724 c1244-5 (Link to this contribution) While it is one thing is to express an opinion in the House, does the noble and learned Lord agree t...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1245 (Link to this contribution) Before my noble and learned friend answers the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, perhaps I could clarify that ...

Lord Tyler | 724 c1245 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord actually said, and I listened with great care, that it should be in the new clause th...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1244 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I understood that question following on from the previous intervention from the noble L...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1243 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that legislation is the proper place to express exhortation, but I have no doubt that ...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1244 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to come back on a question I asked earlier, but it is quite important. May I give the Min...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1243 (Link to this contribution) It is not just a matter of Ministers expecting it because Parliament would expect degree of engageme...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1243 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Lord says he is going to frame an amendment—effectively, to produce a new clau...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1242 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may first respond to the noble Lord, Lord Howarth of Newport. I hope he would no...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1242-3 (Link to this contribution) There will be a difference in the way that the Boundary Commission operates in future, because it is...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1240-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I respect the noble and learned Lord’s refusal to contemplate laying down the law to the B...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1241-2 (Link to this contribution) I support what my noble friend Lord Howarth has said. Following on from what the Minister said on th...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1239 (Link to this contribution) The target size is 76,000, with the 5 per cent leeway making a ceiling of something like 79,500 per ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 724 c1239 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hear what the noble Lord says. Whether it would work out like that is a matter of conjec...

Lord Low of Dalston | 724 c1288-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have been preparing for this moment since well before Christmas and I thought it would n...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1289-90 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the part played by the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, on the Disability Rights Ta...

Lord Low of Dalston | 724 c1292-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lords who have spoken in this short debate, and particularly I thank the...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1294 (Link to this contribution) 107A: Schedule 1, page 19, line 19, leave out ““appointed under section 8 of the 1983 Act”” Amendme...

Lord Bach | 724 c1290 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Committee should be grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, for moving his am...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1290-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, from these Benches we, too, are immensely grateful for the way the noble Lord, Lord Low, m...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 724 c1287 (Link to this contribution) Can the noble Lord remind the House of the rules governing the ability of the Electoral Commission o...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1286-7 (Link to this contribution) One of the most interesting facts that I have learnt today is just how many noble Lords opposite rea...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1287-8 (Link to this contribution) This has been a trip down memory lane to the early days of the debate on the Bill. I thought we migh...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1287 (Link to this contribution) I think the bodies that will need to spend money as a result of the Bill can do so once Second Readi...

Lord Bach | 724 c1285 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend’s amendment is entirely sensible. Indeed, following on from the previous a...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1284-5 (Link to this contribution) I would love to think that I am part of a conspiracy to undermine the so-called fair voting systems ...

Lord Bach | 724 c1286 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we now know that the Bill certainly cannot be passed three months before the referendum du...

Lord Tyler | 724 c1286 (Link to this contribution) As I recall, the noble Lord and his colleagues supported the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Rooke...

Lord Rooker | 724 c1284 (Link to this contribution) I have not seen any of the reports that my noble friend quotes. However, it seems that this is a sca...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1283-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am pleased to follow my noble friend Lord McAvoy and to confirm what he said, namely tha...

Baroness D'Souza | 724 c1216-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy of Southwark, very much indeed. Before I talk briefly about the...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 724 c1216 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I note that there is an amendment to my amendment in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 724 c1215-6 (Link to this contribution) 94: Clause 12, page 13, leave out lines 17 to 23 and insert— ““(2) A Boundary Commission may cause a...

Lord Tyler | 724 c1215 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on behalf of a number of us who have been here for long hours into the night, I congratula...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1214-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, from time to time I keep the House informed about progress on this Bill, and this is one o...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1215 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am obliged to the Leader of the House. As he has said, we have agreed through the usual ...

Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1214 (Link to this contribution) Moved by That the House do now resolve itself into Committee.

Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1248 (Link to this contribution) It seems to me that what is proposed in this amendment is the more important if one takes the view, ...

Lord Wills | 724 c1247-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to make a couple of brief points in support of this proposed new clause. I think th...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1221-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by thanking the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy of Southwark, for the way in which he int...

Lord Lipsey | 724 c1271 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, just to make the bait on the hook of the noble Lord, Lord Williamson, even more appetising...

Lord Bach | 724 c1266 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this short debate and particularly to the M...

Lord Low of Dalston | 724 c1288 (Link to this contribution) 103: Schedule 1, page 18, line 20, leave out ““may”” and insert ““must””

Baroness D'Souza | 724 c1216 (Link to this contribution) 94A: Clause 12, line 7, leave out from ““one”” to end and insert— ““hundred or more. (3) A Boundary ...

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Constituency size

Constituencies

Alternative vote

Electoral Commission

Electoral register

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Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill 2010-12

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