Academies Bill (HL). Lords committee stage third day. Clause 1 agreed to as amended. Clauses 2 to 16 agreed to, with clause 13 agreed to as amended. Schedule 1 agreed to. Schedule 2 agreed to as amended. Bill reported as amended (HL Bill 10 2010-12).
Clause 1 : Academy arrangements; Clause 2: Payments under academy agreements; Clause 3: Application for academy orders; Clause 4: Academy orders; Clause 5: Effect of academy order; Clause 6: Transfer of school surpluses; Clause 7: Transfer of other property; Clause 8: Charitable status of academy proprietors etc; Clause 9: Academies: land; Clause 11: Academies: amendments; Clause 12: Pre-commencement applications etc; Clause 13: Interpretation of Act; Clause 14: Extent; Clause 15: Commencement; Clause 16: Short title
Academies Bill [HL]
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
and
Debate on bills on Monday, 28 June 2010,
in the House of Lords.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
719 c1535-85, 1597-649
Session
2010-12
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1649 (Link to this contribution)
192: Clause 13, page 8, leave out line 10
Amendment 192 agreed.
Amendment 193 not moved.
Clause 1...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1647-8 (Link to this contribution)
Forgive me for having pre-empted my noble friend Lady Williams; I will make a second stab at it. Bef...
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Earl of Listowel | 719 c1648-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his courteous and helpful reply. I hope, like him, that there is ...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1649 (Link to this contribution)
191A: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clause—
"Reports to Parliament
The Secretary of Stat...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1649 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his response, and thereby sadly, but not necessarily permanently, will not ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1647 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that I can provide some reassurance on the concerns raised by the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, ...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1647 (Link to this contribution)
I was expecting the number of my amendment to be called. I apologise; I will be very brief. First, a...
Earl of Listowel | 719 c1645-6 (Link to this contribution)
190: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clause—
"Annual reports
The Secretary of State must p...
Earl of Listowel | 719 c1646-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will endeavour to be as brief as possible. This amendment would require the Secretary of...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1645 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am disappointed that the Minister was not more forthcoming on these amendments. It seems...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1645 (Link to this contribution)
186: Schedule 2, page 18, leave out lines 25 to 27
Amendment 186 agreed.
Amendments 187 to 189 not...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1644-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there are over 200,000 more support staff in our schools thanks to the investment put into...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1645 (Link to this contribution)
I always try to be as helpful to the noble Baroness, Lady Morgan, as I can. I certainly echo what sh...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1643 (Link to this contribution)
185A: Schedule 2, page 17, line 26, at end insert—
"( ) In section 133(6) (requirement to be qualifi...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1643-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I tabled this amendment to ensure that academy support staff are not excluded from the Sch...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1611-3 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend Lord Wallace says that the evidence is as good as the evidence the previous Governme...
Bishop of Exeter | 719 c1613 (Link to this contribution)
I return to my question in the light of what the Minister has just said. I understood him to say tha...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1611 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I start by thanking my noble friend Lady Sharp. She reminded us, in her clear exposition o...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1611 (Link to this contribution)
In terms of the noble Lord’s approach going forward, I ask what evidence has been used to carry on w...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1611 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have tabled Amendment 92 in this group. I cannot resist commenting on the fact that we h...
Bishop of Exeter | 719 c1611 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I make a brief intervention on the group of amendments concerned with reversion to maintai...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 719 c1610-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my Amendment 179 is also in this group of amendments. As the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, h...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1613-4 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his remarks and for putting on record some very helpful information about m...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1613 (Link to this contribution)
On the specific point the right reverend Prelate raised in the question he asked earlier, I can tell...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1607 (Link to this contribution)
81: Clause 1, page 2, line 15, at end insert—
"( ) An Academy is a public authority including for th...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1607-9 (Link to this contribution)
Given the late hour, I shall make my remarks fairly brief. The amendment concerns the issues raised ...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 719 c1609 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am happy to confirm that this Government, like the previous Government, accept that acad...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1609 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful and, in view of that assurance, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1607 (Link to this contribution)
Before my noble friend replies, perhaps I may ask my noble friend on the Front Bench a question. He ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 719 c1607 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate and very much back the...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1609-10 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendments in this group are probing amendments to understand why the Government have ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1609 (Link to this contribution)
88: Clause 2, page 2, line 22, leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and insert—
"(a) for at least three ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1610 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 108 and 178 in my name and that of my noble friends Lady Walmsl...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 719 c1610 (Link to this contribution)
If either Amendment 88 or Amendment 89 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 90 and 92 for the reas...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1621-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment is in my name and that of my noble friends Lady Walmsley and Lady Garden. Cl...
Bishop of Exeter | 719 c1622 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have been asked to speak to Amendments 171 to 174 in the name of my noble and right reve...
Lord Greaves | 719 c1621 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend for that encouraging response and for the fact that it will now be...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1621 (Link to this contribution)
160: Clause 7, page 6, line 11, at end insert—
"( ) The Secretary of State before making a property ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1623 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister and am glad that he is going to think about this. It seems to be natur...
Lord Greaves | 719 c1623-4 (Link to this contribution)
160A: After Clause 7, insert the following new Clause—
"Powers and duties of local authorities: over...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1622-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendments in this group deal with the transfer of school property to the successor ac...
Bishop of Exeter | 719 c1623 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for those assurances and will not press the amendments this evening.
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 719 c1620 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Greaves for his probing amendment and I am happy to provide t...
Lord Greaves | 719 c1624-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 160B in this group. The two amendments cover important and...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1614-5 (Link to this contribution)
Again, this is about teasing out more from the coalition Government about the practicality of how ap...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1615-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 112, 118, 123, 126 and 187, in my name and those of my noble f...
Bishop of Exeter | 719 c1616-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I speak to Amendment 112. Like the noble Baroness, I have some concerns about the way in w...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1617 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this group of amendments deals with academy orders which enable the conversion of a mainta...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1617 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister clarify whether that means that every school that is outstanding which applies will...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1617-9 (Link to this contribution)
No, my Lords; I was coming to that. There are some exceptional circumstances where that would not ne...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1619 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, given that the hour is so late and the complexity and importance of the information that t...
Lord Greaves | 719 c1619 (Link to this contribution)
128: After Clause 4, insert the following new Clause—
"Community facilities
(1) An Academy order mus...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 719 c1620 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have some sympathy with this amendment. Certainly, as regards independent schools, under...
Lord Greaves | 719 c1619-20 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendment 128 stands on its own. It appears to be obligatory for everyone who now speaks t...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 719 c1631-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have two amendments that address many of the points made by my noble friend Lord Phillip...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1630-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry. I have got the abbreviation wrong. I am well behind. On utilitarian grounds, and on the ...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 719 c1635 (Link to this contribution)
165: Clause 8, page 6, line 14, at end insert ", or
"(b) may apply to be a community interest compan...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1635 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend the Minister cannot be fairer than that. I am tempted to make some comment...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1634-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I deeply regret having mentioned Baldrick. I am learning as I go and I shall attempt to be...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1634 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have got slightly confused about the groupings. I think that I have a clause stand part ...
Viscount Astor | 719 c1634 (Link to this contribution)
I stand corrected. That secondary legislation was drafted by the previous Government and I must conf...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1633 (Link to this contribution)
In fact, it came in at the beginning of this month.
Viscount Astor | 719 c1633 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will not make any long arguments. My noble friend Lord Phillips has referred to museums ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1627 (Link to this contribution)
I have been listening carefully the Minister. If the Government do not have a vision for the role of...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1626-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Greaves. I listened to his comments with care and he made some...
Lord Greaves | 719 c1628 (Link to this contribution)
I am beginning to feel like the Minister, the way that I am being cross-questioned by the Labour Par...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 719 c1628 (Link to this contribution)
Is not the point not round the other way? If the cumulative impact of a lot of independent academies...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1628-30 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak also to Amendment 167. Amendment 161 is jointly in the name of my noble friend Lady Wa...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1628 (Link to this contribution)
161: Clause 8, page 6, line 14, leave out "proprietor" and insert "operator"
Lord Greaves | 719 c1627-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for the honesty in his considered reply. I am a little alarm...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1627 (Link to this contribution)
This relates to a debate I had earlier with the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, who asked: why the rush...
Lord Greaves | 719 c1628 (Link to this contribution)
That is the $64,000 question, or perhaps more than that at present exchange rates. I do not know. We...
Baroness Thornton | 719 c1628 (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Lord withdraws his amendment—which I expect he will do rather than test the opinion...
Baroness Whitaker | 719 c1638 (Link to this contribution)
175: Schedule 1, page 16, line 8, at end insert—
"( ) requiring the appointed person to ensure provi...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 719 c1641-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am tempted to answer that lengthy catalogue of good schools in London and close to Londo...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 719 c1640-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend Lady Whitaker and I have stood shoulder to shoulder in campaigns for good ...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1639-40 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Whitaker, about the importance of design. There is s...
Baroness Whitaker | 719 c1638-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will try to race through this. I apologise for not signalling the subject at Second Read...
Baroness Whitaker | 719 c1643 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have joined in at this dreadfully late hour. I p...
Earl of Listowel | 719 c1642-3 (Link to this contribution)
I interject briefly to seek reassurance on those minimum standards. I am reminded by this debate of ...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 719 c1642 (Link to this contribution)
I have no reason to doubt that—and if I discover that it is not the case, I will of course write imm...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 719 c1642 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister confirm that the department will continue to keep in operation the minimum design ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1643 (Link to this contribution)
185: Schedule 2, page 16, line 37, leave out from "section" to end of line 39 and insert "337(b) (sp...
Baroness Thornton | 719 c1636 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I know that the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, will probably have something to say on this. Th...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 719 c1635-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall be very brief on Amendment 165, because it is an alternative route to heaven for a...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1637 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am glad to have the opportunity to agree with my noble friend Lord Phillips but, as has ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1636 (Link to this contribution)
I do not like being known as a man who complicates things, but I shall just say that I, unusually, d...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 719 c1637 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have been invited to withdraw my amendment, which I am happy to do. I think that there a...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 719 c1637 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, may I make a point to the Minister? I am concerned about the timing of this Bill because t...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1637 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the coalition agreement pledges to review the Freedom of Information Act with a view to in...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1637 (Link to this contribution)
168: After Clause 8, insert the following new Clause—
"Academy proprietors: freedom of information
I...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1638 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that is very cheering news at this time of night, I shall go straight off and have a whisk...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1637-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in Amendment 168 my noble friend proposes inserting a new clause that would amend the Free...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 719 c1606-7 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to disagree with the noble Baroness, as I agree with the substantive points that she m...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1604-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may add one small thought to the debate. As I understand it, the parent governor...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1605-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I agree with everyone who has spoken about the importance of parents being involved in sch...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1606 (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Baroness does so, perhaps I could say a word about my amendment in the group. I was...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 719 c1601-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have had one or two little forays about governors and governing bodies in Committee. I ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 719 c1601 (Link to this contribution)
78: Clause 1, page 2, line 15, at end insert—
"( ) At least 25% of the people on the governing body ...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1603-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will intervene briefly, partly because I was the Minister who introduced the Taylor repo...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1602-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have Amendment 82 in this group. I agree with what the noble Baroness, Lady Howe of Idli...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1600-1 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his reply and the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for his support. I am not aware of...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1584 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister explain how this will be monitored? He said that, if it is a low-incidence special ...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 719 c1584 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure that I can provide an instant answer on that. Particularly in relation to low-incidenc...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1585 (Link to this contribution)
I was about to say that I am happy to withdraw my amendment.
Amendment 72 withdrawn.
Amendments 73...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1597 (Link to this contribution)
76B: Clause 1, page 2, line 13, at end insert—
"( ) Academy arrangements must include terms imposed ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1584 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, on this occasion and given the hour, I have set aside my 2,000-word speech. I shall think ...
Baroness Wilkins | 719 c1584-5 (Link to this contribution)
Before my noble friend withdraws her amendment, perhaps I may say that I regret that I am not reassu...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1599-600 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, before replying specifically on the amendment, perhaps I may make a clarification arising ...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1597-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise to move Amendment 76B, which brings us to a subject that is most appropriate for th...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 719 c1598-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support this amendment and I certainly think that the issue of helping children to enjoy...
Baroness Morris of Yardley | 719 c1578-9 (Link to this contribution)
I shall direct my comments to Amendment 72, although I also support Amendment 73. On this occasion, ...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 719 c1579 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the noble Baroness will accept that principals of academies may well share our concern f...
Baroness Morris of Yardley | 719 c1579-80 (Link to this contribution)
But the evidence is on my side. The number of exclusions by academies is very great, while the numbe...
Baroness Wilkins | 719 c1575-7 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 97 does not sit easily with the other two amendments in this group and is on a separate ar...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 719 c1577-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I very much support the probing amendment in the name of my noble friend Lady Wilkins. I a...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1580-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as another former Secretary of State, perhaps I may say how strongly I agree with what was...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1581-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I agree in many ways with what the noble Baroness, Lady Williams, has just said. We face a...
Earl of Listowel | 719 c1582 (Link to this contribution)
Again, I support what the noble Baroness, Lady Perry of Southwark, has said. As far as I know, the b...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1573 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, of course I listened with great interest to the noble Lord’s contribution. The pupil and p...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1573 (Link to this contribution)
Will the noble Baroness be patient until the pupil premium comes along?
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 719 c1572 (Link to this contribution)
If I might add another voice from the Back Benches: to try to guarantee to every parent that their c...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 719 c1572-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, when my children were at primary school I recall the primary head teacher telling me with ...
Lord Bates | 719 c1572 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, the guarantees were not just without any meaningful evidence as to what they actually meant,...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1573-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will focus now on exclusions, which are always a key issue for schools, as we know. I am...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 719 c1575 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am unhappy about these amendments on several counts. First, they seem to impose, again, ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1573 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot wait for the opportunity to discuss the pupil premium. There we have a real chance to see h...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1573 (Link to this contribution)
72: Clause 1, page 2, line 13, at end insert—
"( ) An Academy must operate in partnership with its l...
Lord Greaves | 719 c1549 (Link to this contribution)
Will the noble Baroness agree that the sun shines on the righteous?
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1549-50 (Link to this contribution)
Well, I am sure that we are about to find out the truth of that. I do not want to keep the Committee...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 719 c1547-9 (Link to this contribution)
It could be argued that there is no more important element of the curriculum than PSHE. The previous...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1549 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot help but notice that Members on the coalition government Front Bench have been struggling w...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1550-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure that I am able to give a very clear timetable. As part of the discussions that we need...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 719 c1551-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all those who have spoken in this interesting debate. As someone said, this is not...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1550 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, for moving the amendment and giving us the opport...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1550 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give us a clear timetable before Report on how these deliberations will go forward...
Lord Layard | 719 c1552 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the noble Baroness for giving way. Because I will not have an opportunity to s...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 719 c1535 (Link to this contribution)
32: Clause 1, page 2, line 2, at end insert—
"( ) the school has a curriculum which includes Persona...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 719 c1535-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendment 32, in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Gould, would make personal, soci...
Lord Northbourne | 719 c1538-40 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have tabled my amendment for the same reason as the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, because...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 719 c1540-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support this amendment, to which I have added my name, following the great disappointmen...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 719 c1542-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support a great deal of what has been said today. I shall go back rather further. In the...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1543-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Baronesses, Lady Massey of Darwen and Lady Gould, and my noble friend Lady Walms...
Lord Layard | 719 c1545 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I strongly support the two amendments in this group. In the past 40 years, there have been...
Bishop of Exeter | 719 c1544-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I begin by commenting on both amendments; I recognise the importance of giving children an...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1545-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I speak on this matter in a personal capacity and I absolutely support the amendment of th...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1571-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall briefly give the coalition Government another opportunity to think again about the...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1570-1 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his reply and other Members of the Committee for their contributions. I am ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1569-70 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I understand the points that have been made, particularly those made very forcefully by my...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1572 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend’s Back Benches are in complete accord.
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1572 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness invites my noble friend to return to the days of an old new Labour Government; I ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 719 c1569 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I lend my support to these amendments, which I know at this stage are probing. I am very p...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1566-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 53 and 54 in the same group. Amendment 52 probes the Gove...
Baroness Walmsley | 719 c1566 (Link to this contribution)
52: Clause 1, page 2, line 8, at end insert—
"( ) if the school provides nursery or primary educatio...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1564-5 (Link to this contribution)
I will come on to deal with that, if I may. If it would be helpful, I am happy to set out in writing...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1564 (Link to this contribution)
It is important for me to understand how the status quo will be measured. How is selection defined? ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1565 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that miasma of anxiety. I am due to meet my colleague shortly, and perhaps that is anot...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1565 (Link to this contribution)
Will my noble friend be open to at least thinking about a rewording of Clause 1(6)? He made a fair p...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1566 (Link to this contribution)
41: Clause 1, page 2, line 5, leave out "agreement" and insert "arrangements"
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1565-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his response, and I look forward to receiving a fuller response in writing....
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1566 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, these technical amendments in my name are intended to correct errors in the Bill. I have a...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1563-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that I can provide the reassurance that my noble friend Lord Phillips and the noble...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1562-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 43 and 46. I can address them briefly because I agree overwhel...
Lord Bates | 719 c1562 (Link to this contribution)
Can the noble Baroness confirm that selection was included in the concept of academies introduced by...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1561-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, these are probing amendments with which I hope to learn a great deal from the Minister abo...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1561 (Link to this contribution)
40A: Clause 1, page 2, line 2, at end insert—
"( ) the school, if it was a selective school on conve...
Baroness Morgan of Huyton | 719 c1560 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to intervene but I do not think that is right. What the noble Lord is talking about is wh...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1559 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, certainly I will withdraw the amendment but I will make one or two points first. On the po...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 719 c1559 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as in so many areas, this has been an interesting debate which again has ranged further th...
Lord Bates | 719 c1558-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, one of the great joys of this House is the realisation that when you raise an issue, you s...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 719 c1558 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as president of the National Governors’ Association, perhaps I may be allowed to make a ti...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1558 (Link to this contribution)
I have also been a school governor in one form or another for getting on for 40 years. Training cour...
Earl of Listowel | 719 c1557 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, listening to the noble Baroness, Lady Perry of Southwark, I was reminded of visiting a chi...
Baroness Morgan of Huyton | 719 c1556 (Link to this contribution)
I have a certain sympathy with this amendment, although there are question marks about how it is phr...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 719 c1558 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord. Does he accept that his personal experience may not be universal? A...
Lord Bates | 719 c1557-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Lucas for moving this interesting amendment. My defa...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 719 c1553 (Link to this contribution)
I am sympathetic to the noble Lord’s argument, but why does the word "interim" appear in this amendm...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1552-3 (Link to this contribution)
I should declare an interest, in that I run the Good Schools Guide and therefore spend an inordinate...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 719 c1555-6 (Link to this contribution)
I support much of what my noble friend has said. It is desperately important to have proper monitori...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1553-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise if the wording of my amendment is not exact. It is merely there to bring up th...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1552 (Link to this contribution)
38: Clause 1, page 2, line 2, at end insert—
"( ) arrangements have been made for Ofsted to prepare ...
Lord Bates | 719 c1558 (Link to this contribution)
I defer to my noble friend’s experience, but bodies such as the Institute of Directors put on traini...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 719 c1580 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to say how much I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Morris, and, unusually, disag...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 719 c1582 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may say how much I agree with what my noble friend Lady Williams said about the ...
Earl of Listowel | 719 c1575 (Link to this contribution)
The reassuring words of the noble Baroness, Lady Perry of Southwark, are very helpful. When I visit ...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 719 c1552 (Link to this contribution)
I ask the Minister to meet with a group of us. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment for now, but I ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1571 (Link to this contribution)
60A: Clause 1, page 2, line 8, at end insert—
"( ) the school offers a guarantee of minimum educatio...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1562 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord is referring to the 10 per cent based on aptitude, which is a different par...
Lord Lucas | 719 c1560 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, my Lords, I agree that, used internally, those sorts of data are wonderful. I recall how, 15 ye...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 719 c1614 (Link to this contribution)
105: Clause 3, page 2, line 38, at end insert—
"( ) An application under subsection (1) shall be in ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 719 c1604 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, ask the Minister to give this important matter further consideration. One of the g...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 719 c1582-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as my noble friend Lord Lucas said, this is a long-running problem. What we have heard fro...
Earl of Listowel | 719 c1568-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the thrust of the noble Baroness’s amendments. Having visited several nurseries ...
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