Parliamentary search - Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill

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499 c268-320

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2008-09

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Department for Children, Schools and Families

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Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill. Lords amendments. Explanatory Notes Bill 167-EN also published. (Vote)
Tuesday, 10 November 2009
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Speaker | 499 c273 (Link to this contribution) I draw the attention of the House to the fact that financial privilege is involved in Lords amendmen...

Iain Wright | 499 c313-6 (Link to this contribution) The establishment of an independent regulator for qualifications and assessments is an important par...

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Nick Gibb | 499 c316 (Link to this contribution) I want to test the House's opinion on amendment (a).

Speaker | 499 c317 (Link to this contribution) Order. I must dispose of the other amendments first.

David Laws | 499 c308 (Link to this contribution) We have had an interesting debate, and more light has been shed on the Conservatives' position on ac...

Nick Gibb | 499 c307-8 (Link to this contribution) You are quite right, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I mean the amendment to Lords amendment 178. It does what I...

David Laws | 499 c308 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for correcting any ambiguity so swiftly. We are reassured by his comme...

Lord Coaker | 499 c308 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry if I was ambiguous; I did not mean to be. We did not ever intend the YPLA to have that fu...

Lord Coaker | 499 c306-7 (Link to this contribution) I know the hon. Gentleman will agree that Dr. Moynihan is a fantastic advocate of academies and has ...

Nick Gibb | 499 c307 (Link to this contribution) Dr. Moynihan was saying that he was in favour of an agency, but not this agency. He does not want th...

David Laws | 499 c307 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman clarify whether that latter aspiration is the policy of the Conservative part...

Speaker | 499 c307 (Link to this contribution) Order. Let me point out for the sake of clarification that if the hon. Gentleman is referring to ame...

Speaker | 499 c313 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Lords amendments 119 to 123. Lords amendm...

Iain Wright | 499 c313 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 118.

Lord Coaker | 499 c312-3 (Link to this contribution) Performance management, ultimately, will be done by Ofsted; it will draw problems to the attention o...

David Laws | 499 c312 (Link to this contribution) Why can that performance management not be done by a local authority? Why does it need to be done by...

David Laws | 499 c308-10 (Link to this contribution) It was indeed another ambiguity. I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman was making a point rather than ...

Lord Coaker | 499 c310-1 (Link to this contribution) Our brief discussion on this group of amendments has been useful and interesting. Let me repeat and ...

David Laws | 499 c312 (Link to this contribution) I agree that we cannot run hundreds or thousands of academies from Whitehall or Westminster. Has the...

Lord Coaker | 499 c312 (Link to this contribution) In our discussions, local authorities constantly talk to us about the performance of schools in thei...

Nick Gibb | 499 c311 (Link to this contribution) My experience of speaking to academy providers is that the problems they have faced over the past fi...

Lord Coaker | 499 c311 (Link to this contribution) The point I am making is that we want to academies to be the solution where that is appropriate, and...

Iain Wright | 499 c299 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 56.

Lord Coaker | 499 c299 (Link to this contribution) Yes, they are consistent, which is why I said that an assessment is made of those entering adult pri...

John Hayes | 499 c299 (Link to this contribution) I was asking a slightly more technical question. In as much as the legislation establishes a set of ...

Iain Wright | 499 c302 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has raised two important points. I can certainly make a commitment that the Secre...

Iain Wright | 499 c301 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, may I say that I am pleased with the tone of the responses from the hon...

John Hayes | 499 c301-2 (Link to this contribution) I assume that what the Minister has just said will be set out in guidance. Will he make a commitment...

John Hayes | 499 c300 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful that the Minister has conceded that the Bill has been improved in this area too by con...

Stephen Williams | 499 c301 (Link to this contribution) I have a couple of questions about the operation of the provisions in Lords amendment 64, which will...

Speaker | 499 c299 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to consider the following: Lords amendments 57 to 64. Lords amendme...

Iain Wright | 499 c299-300 (Link to this contribution) We have listened to the debate, both here and in the other place, and to the opinions of key stakeho...

Speaker | 499 c302 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to consider Lords amendment 73. Lords amendment 178, and amendment ...

Lord Coaker | 499 c302 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 72.

Nick Gibb | 499 c303 (Link to this contribution) Does that mean that, before the Bill went to the other place, it was the Government's intention to a...

Lord Coaker | 499 c302-3 (Link to this contribution) Although we are all in agreement that it is not sustainable for a Government Department to continue ...

Lord Coaker | 499 c305 (Link to this contribution) I do not doubt the hon. Gentleman's commitment to academies, or his commitment to them if he were fo...

Nick Gibb | 499 c305-6 (Link to this contribution) I am quite sure that all local authorities in this country, whether they be Conservative authorities...

Lord Coaker | 499 c303 (Link to this contribution) We are trying to make it clear in the Bill that the YPLA will not be able to enter into a funding ag...

Nick Gibb | 499 c303-4 (Link to this contribution) During the Bill's time in the other place, a number of amendments were tabled, as the Minister has e...

Lord Coaker | 499 c305 (Link to this contribution) I just want to be clear about the hon. Gentleman's high praise for academies, much of which I share....

Nick Gibb | 499 c305 (Link to this contribution) Our advice goes way beyond local authorities; it goes to livery companies, parent groups, co-operati...

Stephen Williams | 499 c292-3 (Link to this contribution) Madam Deputy Speaker, you and everyone else will be relieved that I do not have any musical, theatri...

Iain Wright | 499 c294 (Link to this contribution) Certainly with regard to the YPLA and the national funding framework that will be introduced, we tho...

Iain Wright | 499 c293-4 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the hon. Member for South Holland and The Deepings (Mr. Hayes). It was a remarkable...

John Hayes | 499 c294 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his glowing tribute. The point is that the legal personalities of...

Iain Wright | 499 c294 (Link to this contribution) I think that I have answered that question. The two organisations will serve two different constitue...

Stephen Williams | 499 c294 (Link to this contribution) We have just had the experience of the penultimate chief executive of the LSC resigning in response ...

Iain Wright | 499 c294 (Link to this contribution) I have obviously not satisfied the hon. Gentleman yet.

John Hayes | 499 c294 (Link to this contribution) The Minister always brings immense charm to these proceedings, but he has not answered the question....

Iain Wright | 499 c295 (Link to this contribution) The chief executive will be accountable to the Secretary of State, so matters of delivery and perfor...

Speaker | 499 c295 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to take Lords amendments 44 to 55, 115, 170 and 174.

Lord Coaker | 499 c295 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 43.

Lord Coaker | 499 c295-6 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to contribute, even at this late stage, to what is an important Bill, and on these ...

John Hayes | 499 c296-7 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to face the Minister across the Dispatch Box for, I think, the first time, although...

Annette Brooke | 499 c297 (Link to this contribution) We, too, welcome the amendments greatly. The proportion of young people in custody with low standard...

Lord Coaker | 499 c297-8 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, I thank the hon. Members for South Holland and The Deepings (Mr. Hayes)...

John Hayes | 499 c298 (Link to this contribution) I would want to be associated with the Minister's remarks on behalf of the Opposition. The Bill deal...

Lord Coaker | 499 c298 (Link to this contribution) Some of the provisions in the Bill dealing with the sharing of information on young offenders are ab...

Annette Brooke | 499 c299 (Link to this contribution) I concur with the Minister's previous comments, in which he congratulated staff, but I would also li...

Lord Coaker | 499 c299 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the remarks of the hon. Lady and the hon. Member for South Holland and The Deeping...

John Hayes | 499 c290-2 (Link to this contribution) As the Under-Secretary said, the second group of amendments contains minor improvements, which we br...

Iain Wright | 499 c288-9 (Link to this contribution) Last year, I took the Housing and Regeneration Bill through the House, and the appointment of the ch...

Speaker | 499 c287 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Lords amendments 35 to 38, 40 to 42, 65 to 71, 74, 77 to ...

Iain Wright | 499 c287 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 34.

David Laws | 499 c288 (Link to this contribution) Are there other examples of that approach in non-departmental public bodies?

Iain Wright | 499 c287-8 (Link to this contribution) The amendments are concentrated on crucial changes to the machinery of government to improve the del...

Kevin Brennan | 499 c286 (Link to this contribution) I am confident that, as we speak, sector skills councils and employer-led organisations are working ...

John Hayes | 499 c286 (Link to this contribution) While the Minister is in the mood to give assurances, can he finally wrap up the matter of sector sk...

Kevin Brennan | 499 c287 (Link to this contribution) I think I may have to refer to my notes and do that in a moment. First, I wish to refer to the remar...

John Hayes | 499 c286 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister sits down, will he say a word about amendments 84 to 86—those recommended by Lor...

John Hayes | 499 c274 (Link to this contribution) What the White Paper says—I have it here—is that the number of sector skills councils will be reduce...

Kevin Brennan | 499 c274-6 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman should not listen to too many rumours. The figure of nine is nowhere to be found,...

Kevin Brennan | 499 c273 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 1.

Kevin Brennan | 499 c273 (Link to this contribution) Let me take this opportunity to thank hon. Members in all parts of the House for their contribution ...

Speaker | 499 c273 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Lords amendments 2 to 33, 39, 75, 76, 83 to 85, 87 to 112...

Kevin Brennan | 499 c274 (Link to this contribution) Not only is that reduction widely rumoured to be the Government's preference, but there has just bee...

John Hayes | 499 c273 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for paying tribute to the assiduous and sagacious contribution that the Opposit...

Speaker | 499 c280 (Link to this contribution) Order. Perhaps both Front-Bench teams will now come to order so that Mr. Hayes may continue his cont...

John Hayes | 499 c279-80 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has a distinguished record as the chairman of the all-party group on skills, and ...

Gordon Marsden | 499 c279 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman talked about a spirit of generosity. Will he therefore be a little more generous ...

John Hayes | 499 c278-9 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister knows, I am both straightforward and generous, and I have said on the record in the ...

Kevin Brennan | 499 c278 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is talking about context. Will he acknowledge that the number of apprenticeships ...

Ed Balls | 499 c280 (Link to this contribution) Answer!

John Hayes | 499 c280 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to digress, Madam Deputy Speaker, and I can see in your benevolent but stern eye that ...

David Laws | 499 c280 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman not concerned that creating such an attractive vocational pathway would be und...

John Hayes | 499 c276-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to return to these matters. As the Minister said, it has been a long journey,...

Nick Gibb | 499 c284 (Link to this contribution) May I put the Minister out of his misery? What we want to do—what our policy says we would like to d...

Kevin Brennan | 499 c285-6 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, Madam Deputy Speaker. There is a relevance, as I shall show in a moment. The hon. Member fo...

Speaker | 499 c284 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind hon. Members that we are discussing Lords amendments.

Gordon Marsden | 499 c282-3 (Link to this contribution) I bow to your guidance, Madam Deputy Speaker, but I think that the hon. Gentleman is straying off th...

John Hayes | 499 c282 (Link to this contribution) I shall not delay the hon. Gentleman, but I am familiar with both of the reports from the all-party ...

Kevin Brennan | 499 c284 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Members who contributed to this interesting debate from which we learned new things...

Stephen Williams | 499 c283-4 (Link to this contribution) I would like to begin by welcoming the Minister to our proceedings on this Bill. Two different Depar...

Gordon Marsden | 499 c281-2 (Link to this contribution) In speaking about Lords amendments 31 and 158, I want to follow the spirit of the speech made by the...

John Hayes | 499 c280-1 (Link to this contribution) I am immensely grateful for your benevolence, Madam Deputy Speaker. My hon. Friend the Member for Bo...

Lord Coaker | 499 c308 (Link to this contribution) Ambiguous.

Nick Gibb | 499 c307 (Link to this contribution) When we debated the issue in Committee, I tabled an amendment to enable a different organisation to ...

John Hayes | 499 c280 (Link to this contribution) I shall simply say to the hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Laws) that I defer to my hon. Friend the Membe...

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