Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill

I shall simply say to the hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Laws) that I defer to my hon. Friend the Member for Bognor Regis and Littlehampton (Mr. Gibb) in all such matters, and he tells me that ““they will not be excluded””—quote, unquote. [Interruption.] We must move on. The amendments to clause 30 deal with certification. [Interruption.]