Westminster Hall debate on a motion for the adjournment on the Licensing Act. [Relevant documents: Sixth Report from the Culture, Media and Sport Committee Session 2008-09 HC 492 and the Government Response, Cm 7684.]
Licensing Act
Adjournment debate on Thursday, 22 October 2009,
in the House of Commons,
led by John Whittingdale.
The answering
member was Gerry Sutcliffe.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
497 c311-46WH 
Session
2008-09
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
The Licensing Act 2003. Government response to the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee's sixth report of Session 2008-09. (HC 492).
Tuesday, 14 July 2009
Command papers
House of Commons
Tuesday, 14 July 2009
Command papers
House of Commons
The Licensing Act 2003. Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee sixth report with formal minutes and evidence (HC 1093-i-iv 2007-08 not printed separately).
Thursday, 30 April 2009
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Thursday, 30 April 2009
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
John Whittingdale | 497 c312WH (Link to this contribution)
Up to a point. The proposal is late and fairly small, and I will speak about it at greater length sh...
Mark Field | 497 c313WH (Link to this contribution)
At the time, much of the publicity about the legislation focused on 24-hour drinking, and my hon. Fr...
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John Whittingdale | 497 c313WH (Link to this contribution)
As I said, I have spoken in the past to the local residents my hon. Friend represents and I recognis...
Richard Younger-Ross | 497 c313WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman mentioned problems in inner-city areas. The problem of shifting the trouble zone ...
John Whittingdale | 497 c313WH (Link to this contribution)
It is probably fair to say that the problem will affect places that have a significant influx of peo...
Philip Davies | 497 c313WH (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on being such an excellent Chairman of the Select Committee. He touche...
John Whittingdale | 497 c313-6WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree that the majority of people are responsible and enjoy drinking in moderation, and that it wo...
Mark Field | 497 c311WH (Link to this contribution)
I shall, Miss Begg, and I take your point, although I believe there are another 147 minutes to go. M...
John Whittingdale | 497 c311-2WH (Link to this contribution)
There are concerns, which I shall move on to. I recognise my hon. Friend's position, as he represent...
Paul Farrelly | 497 c312WH (Link to this contribution)
Clearly, we in the Committee are concerned that the Government have not gone far enough in their res...
John Whittingdale | 497 c317WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman says that it was. I am glad that my hon. Friend brought that up, because it is an...
John Whittingdale | 497 c316-7WH (Link to this contribution)
I got old.
We have not just received evidence from pubs and clubs. I should like to draw attention ...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 497 c317WH (Link to this contribution)
Was it licensed?
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c317-8WH (Link to this contribution)
I will mention what the hon. Gentleman says later, during my speech, but I just want to say that for...
John Whittingdale | 497 c318WH (Link to this contribution)
I accept that there is concern, although in my view a lot of the worries that local authorities righ...
John Whittingdale | 497 c316WH (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree with the hon. Gentleman. There is real evidence of that happening, not just in Mo...
Lembit Opik | 497 c316WH (Link to this contribution)
I support what the hon. Gentleman is saying. Does he agree that, especially in rural areas such as M...
Richard Younger-Ross | 497 c324WH (Link to this contribution)
Following the hon. Gentleman's logic, is he saying that it is not the responsibility of drug dealers...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 497 c323WH (Link to this contribution)
It is our policy.
Philip Davies | 497 c323WH (Link to this contribution)
It may well be our policy; that does not stop it being ludicrous. This may not be the only context i...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c323WH (Link to this contribution)
Are there no circumstances in which the hon. Gentleman thinks there are irresponsible promotions? I ...
Philip Davies | 497 c323WH (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not agree about that, and I hope that the Minister will support me in trying to help him to...
John Whittingdale | 497 c319-20WH (Link to this contribution)
If that is the case, I welcome it, and I hope that the Minister will confirm it in his response. The...
John Whittingdale | 497 c320-1WH (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is a great expert in contemporary music, and is as familiar with Tinchy Stryder as I ...
Philip Davies | 497 c321-3WH (Link to this contribution)
Let me start, Miss Begg, by apologising to you, the Minister and my Select Committee Chairman, my ho...
Lord Foster of Bath | 497 c318-9WH (Link to this contribution)
Miss Begg, I have already apologised to you, the Minister and the excellent Chairman of the Select C...
John Grogan | 497 c328-30WH (Link to this contribution)
Yes. Obviously, however, not everyone is up to the standards of the best. It is interesting to think...
Richard Younger-Ross | 497 c330WH (Link to this contribution)
It has been a good debate. The Select Committee's report is excellent, and the presentation given by...
John Grogan | 497 c327-8WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a great pleasure to make a small contribution to the debate, which was initiated by the report...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c328WH (Link to this contribution)
On that point, the visit to Brighton was to see a beacon council, because it showed best practice. D...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c326WH (Link to this contribution)
indicated assent.
Lembit Opik | 497 c326-7WH (Link to this contribution)
I see the Minister nodding, and I am encouraged that at least in sentiment he probably supports the ...
Philip Davies | 497 c324-5WH (Link to this contribution)
No, it is not the responsibility of drug dealers that people take drugs. It is the responsibility of...
Lembit Opik | 497 c325-6WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to you, Miss Begg, and to others for allowing me to speak in the debate. I apologise o...
John Whittingdale | 497 c311WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the opportunity to debate the Culture, Media and Sport Committee's report on the L...
Speaker | 497 c311WH (Link to this contribution)
Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that he is making an intervention, so he should keep it short and...
Mark Field | 497 c311WH (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for intervening so early, but having sat on the Bill's Standing Committee, and as the le...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c330WH (Link to this contribution)
indicated assent.
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c331WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for raising the concerns felt by local government and the Local ...
Richard Younger-Ross | 497 c330-1WH (Link to this contribution)
The Minister nods, so it cannot have been his double. We were in the Members' Dining Room to listen ...
Richard Younger-Ross | 497 c332WH (Link to this contribution)
We have listened to our council colleagues very carefully and we have discussed this issue. My hon. ...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c332WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the opportunity to do that now—I was asked to do it by the Chairman of the Select ...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 497 c337WH (Link to this contribution)
If the Minister will just let me finish, I was going to say that he should simply hand himself over ...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c337WH (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 497 c337WH (Link to this contribution)
And now the Minister says that it did not need a licence—the situation is becoming even more confusi...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c337WH (Link to this contribution)
It did not need a licence.
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 497 c334-7WH (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. My hon. Friend is a man who discovered Sting, pogoed to The Undertones and got down with Lem...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c339-45WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a great pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Miss Begg, and to be here to respond to the...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c337WH (Link to this contribution)
I shall write to the hon. Gentleman.
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 497 c337-9WH (Link to this contribution)
Oh, the Minister has to write to me, but he cannot cite the specific section now. That is how clear ...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 497 c337WH (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. I want to make it clear that that event at ...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 497 c337WH (Link to this contribution)
That is clear as mud then, is it not? In fact, if the Minister wants to cite the specific legislatio...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 497 c334WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for this opportunity to welcome the excellent Select Committee report that we have deb...
John Whittingdale | 497 c334WH (Link to this contribution)
In London at the National.
Richard Younger-Ross | 497 c332-4WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that positive response; we will have to wait and see what the consultation ...
Speaker | 497 c345WH (Link to this contribution)
Does the Chair of the Committee wish to sum up?
John Whittingdale | 497 c346WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that response. He has indicated that the Government are prepared to look at...
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