Offender Management Bill. Lords Committee stage second day. Clause 2 agreed to as amended. New clause considered. Part 2 of 2 records.
Offender Management Bill
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
and
Debate on bills on Monday, 21 May 2007,
in the House of Lords.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
692 c537-62 
Session
2006-07
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Offender Management Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 47-EN also published.
Thursday, 1 March 2007
Bills
House of Lords
Thursday, 1 March 2007
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Geddes | 692 c537 (Link to this contribution)
Amendments Nos. 25 and 26 have already been debated, according to the Marshalled List.
Lord Northbourne | 692 c537 (Link to this contribution)
The groupings are incorrect. These two amendments have not been discussed. I told the office, which ...
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Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c539-41 (Link to this contribution)
I reassure the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, that the Prime Minister has not dropped the phrase, "““...
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c539 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, am very glad that the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, is here to speak to his amendment. I kno...
Lord Judd | 692 c539 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, is making an important point. As somebody who refuses to shut up a...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 692 c538 (Link to this contribution)
I had not realised that my noble friend Lord Northbourne was going to be speaking to the amendment. ...
Lord Dholakia | 692 c538 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, is right that there was some overlap in the discussion last time. I...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c538 (Link to this contribution)
The groups to which we were working at that stage showed it. I am trying to explain to the noble Lor...
Lord Northbourne | 692 c537 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 26:
26: Clause 2, page 3, line 5, at end insert ““; and
( ) the reduction of t...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c538 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the Committee will understand that the fact that I shall be exceptionally brief does not...
Lord Geddes | 692 c537 (Link to this contribution)
I, in turn, apologise to the Committee. I have not received such advice.
[Amendment No. 25 not move...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c544-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 28:
28: Clause 2, page 3, line 8, leave out ““or will be””
The noble Baroness...
Lord Northbourne | 692 c543 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the noble Baroness for what has been, for me, a great clarification of what th...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c542 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has alluded to the fact that every Member of this House has a right to speak to their a...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c542-3 (Link to this contribution)
May I make it absolutely clear that there are two different areas: crime prevention and crime reduct...
Lord Judd | 692 c543 (Link to this contribution)
Does my noble friend agree that the importance of the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord North...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c543 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I agree with my noble friend. But it also demonstrates what a number of Members of the Com...
Lord Northbourne | 692 c541 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the noble Baroness. On a technicality of the conduct of this House, I have a p...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c541 (Link to this contribution)
No one in the Committee would suggest that it was the fault of the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne. The...
Lord Northbourne | 692 c541 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful for that. Of course I am not being grumpy about it; I just wanted to make my poin...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c541-2 (Link to this contribution)
I certainly agree with the noble Lord that reducing reoffending is part of reducing offending. In or...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c551 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 33:
33: Clause 2, page 3, line 16, leave out from ““(c. 30))”” to end of line ...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c545 (Link to this contribution)
Taking out the words ““or will be”” from Clause 2(5) will tighten up what the Secretary of State is ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 692 c546 (Link to this contribution)
I can assure the noble Baroness that we will look at that point because, if the noble Baroness is ri...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c546 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister. I think it will be more difficult to read rather than skew the meanin...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 692 c545-6 (Link to this contribution)
I commence with a word of congratulation to the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay. She always exercises he...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c546 (Link to this contribution)
That is a more helpful explanation than the one given in another place and I am grateful to the Mini...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c550-1 (Link to this contribution)
I support the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay. I am lost in admiration for the way in which she has weav...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c551 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Linklater, for the support that she gives to the noble Baroness, La...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c546-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 29:
29: Clause 2, page 3, line 11, leave out subsection (6)
The noble Barones...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c548-50 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to my Amendments Nos. 31, 32, 72, 76, 80 and 81 in this group. Noble Lords will notice...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c558-61 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, for tabling these amendments. As she said, they give me an ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c561 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister mentioned that the subcontracting rate of probation boards was now down to 3 per cent a...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c561-2 (Link to this contribution)
First, I cannot confirm the figure that the noble Lord has given about redundancies. That is not the...
Lord Hylton | 692 c556-7 (Link to this contribution)
I have a lot of sympathy with this series of amendments. I feel that the more commissioning, initiat...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 692 c557 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, have a great deal of sympathy with these amendments and particularly with the comments made ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c557 (Link to this contribution)
As we are in Committee perhaps I may respond to that now, rather than taxing the Minister with havin...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 692 c557 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness for that explanation. However, it leaves me extremely disappoint...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c551-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 34:
34: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause—
““Power for probation...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c554-5 (Link to this contribution)
I support this comprehensive list of amendments that relate to local commissioning, which is where w...
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c555-6 (Link to this contribution)
I strongly support theconcept of the amendment, which is hugely helpful in setting out what we mean ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 692 c562 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, given the hour, that the House do now resume.
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c562 (Link to this contribution)
When the Minister responded to my amendment, she ended up by asking three questions. At this time of...
Lord Northbourne | 692 c538 (Link to this contribution)
With the greatest respect, I have the list here and it was not grouped in that way.
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