Parliamentary search - Commissioner for Older People (Wales) Bill [HL]

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675 c680-714

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2005-06

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Wales Office

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Commissioner for Older People (Wales) Bill (HL). As amended on Report (HL)
Wednesday, 9 November 2005
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Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c695-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we on these Benches support the amendment. As the noble Lord, Lord Roberts of Conwy, said,...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c694-5 (Link to this contribution) had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 8:"Page 1, line 15, leave out subsection (2)...

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Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c695 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 10:"Page 2, line 5, after ““review”” insert ““and monitor””" The noble Lord sai...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c694 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I take the noble Lord’s point, but I have argued that it is entirely up to the commissione...

Lord Carter | 675 c694 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must inform the House that, if Amendment No. 8 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment No....

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c693-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome Amendments Nos. 20, 21 and 27. They are improvements to the Bill. The commission...

Lord Rowlands | 675 c694 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for raising the point, but I do not think that we are talk...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c691 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in Grand Committee I very much understood and sympathised with the thought behind Amendmen...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c691-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak first to government Amendments Nos. 20, 21 and 27, before turning to Amendme...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c688-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the effect of Amendment No. 6 would be to replace the wide powers the Bill gives the commi...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c689 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, was quite right in saying that there are two very...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c689-90 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 7:"Page 1, line 14, at end insert—" ““( ) be given the power to enforce th...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c690 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we support this amendment in giving additional and important power to the Commissioner for...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c686 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not shaking my head. I simply make the point—and I probably should not—that we discus...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c686-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thought we were reporting to this House, sitting in the Chamber, on what had been discus...

Lord Rowlands | 675 c687-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to tell the noble Lord why I shall be opposing his amendment if he presses it. Ther...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c684 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 4 and 5:"Page 1, line 9, at end insert ““and of the need to safeguard those in...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c684-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 6:"Page 1, line 13, leave out ““effectiveness”” and insert ““effective implement...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c680-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment No. 1 before turning to Amendment No. 2. During the discussion ...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c680 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 17, line 12, after ““appointment”” insert ““and re-appointment””" The n...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c683 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome government Amendments Nos. 4 and 5, which, as the Minister acknowledged, derive ...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c682-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment No. 3 before turning to the two government amendments. Amendmen...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c682 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the problem with a discretionary function is that, in practice, it can mean anything or no...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c681-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3:"Page 1, line 8, leave out ““may”” and insert ““shall””" The noble Lord said:...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c709-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as we have heard, this amendment seeks to enable an older person to have an independent ad...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c709 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 32:"Page 7, line 42, at end insert—" ““( ) interview the older person in p...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c708 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 31:"Page 7, line 40, leave out ““, other than a private dwelling,””" The noble ...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c708 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 30:"Page 7, line 36, at end insert—" ““(4) Where guidance issued under this ...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c709 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have heard the Minister’s response. I am not entirely satisfied with it because to put a...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c708-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand and sympathise entirely with the reasons behind this amendment. None of us wo...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c706-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 27:"Page 7, line 18, leave out ““6(5) or 9, or”” and insert ““9," ( ) with...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c707 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 28:"Page 7, line 29, leave out ““may”” and insert ““must””" The noble Lord said...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c707 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment seeks to replace the commissioner’s power to issue best practice guidance in...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c707-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on the whole, what my noble friend said was reassuring. Accordingly, I beg leave to withdr...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c706 (Link to this contribution) had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 25:"Page 6, line 23, leave out subsection (2...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c706 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response, although I am disappointed with what he had to say....

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c705-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 24 relates to Clause 9. This clause and the regulations which it enables the...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c705 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to express my support for the thrust of Amendment No. 24. Indeed, I have a great de...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c704-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we on these Benches fully support the amendment that has been moved by the noble Lord, Lor...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c704 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 24:"Page 6, line 22, at end insert—" ““( ) Regulations may make provision ...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c704 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it gives me great pleasure to accede to the request of my noble friend. I beg leave to wit...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c703 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we would support any move that strengthened the commissioner’s effectiveness. We see an op...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c703-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 22 makes specific provision enabling the commissioner to undertake or assist...

Lord Rowlands | 675 c703 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support my noble friend. Health inequalities in Wales are still totally unaccept...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c713-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment was discussed at some length in Grand Committee and at Second Reading. I wi...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c712-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 34:"Page 13, line 37, leave out ““60”” and insert ““50””" The noble Lord said: ...

Lord Rowlands | 675 c712 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as always, my noble friend is generous in his response. There is a consensus around the Bi...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c712 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened carefully to what has been said on this amendment. Some extremely good poi...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c714 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for what he has said and his assurance that we shall not be ...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c710 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if there were a large number of people present here tonight, I would take this to the vote...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c711 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we on these Benches support this amendment. Without some approval by a third party, the pr...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c711-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, rise to support the thrust of the amendment. I anticipate that the Minister’s repl...

Lord Rowlands | 675 c710-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 33:"Page 13, line 17, after ““consult”” insert ““and receive the approval of””" ...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c711 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I warmly support the amendment tabled by my noble friend Lord Rowlands. As he has so clear...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c701 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 19:"Page 3, line 25, at end insert—" ““( ) the implementation of the guida...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c701 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in this group is Amendment No. 29, in which we seek to extend guidance that is given by th...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c701 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 19 would enable the commissioner to look at the arrangements that a listed b...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c702 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to express my appreciation for the new subsections added to Clause 11. The first en...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c702 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 20 and 21:"Page 4, line 38, after ““for”” insert ““either or both of the follo...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the light of that assurance, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leav...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can confirm that the commissioner would be able to do that.

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, does the Minister accept that under Clause 2(3), the commissioner,"““may consider, and mak...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c697 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 11:"Page 2, line 12, at end insert—" ““( ) The results of the Commissioner...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c697 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support that part of the amendment which would require an annual report to be published....

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak first to Amendment No. 10, before turning to Amendments Nos. 17 and 18. We d...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are grateful to the Minister for commenting on the amendments that he has brought forwa...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c698-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 13:"Page 22, line 31, at end insert—" ““The air ambulance in Wales. Ambu...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c699-700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I turn to Amendments Nos. 13 and 23, and Amendments Nos. 14, 15 and 16—all of which deal w...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c697-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was a little surprised to see that this amendment had been tabled because I explained du...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c698 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am delighted by the positive response from the Minister and by his reference to the incr...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be brief. It seems to me that the grounds for the amendment in Grand Committee hav...

Lord Rowlands | 675 c690-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when the debate on this amendment took place in Grand Committee, I raised with the noble L...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 675 c685-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 6 is grouped with Amendments Nos. 8 and 9, although they deal with a separat...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c700-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 17 to 18:"Page 3, line 18, leave out ““, and monitor the operation of,”” and i...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c702 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should have welcomed Amendment No. 30, tabled by the Government. The requirement in that...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c683-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his answer and for the two government amendments that we...

Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c702-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 22:"After Clause 6, insert the following new clause—" ““UNDERTAKING OR ASSI...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c681 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his comments on these two amendments. I said at the outs...

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