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Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill 2005-06

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 16 November 2005, in the House of Commons, led by Tony McNulty. The answering member was Cheryl Gillan.
Immigration Nationality and Asylum Bill. Report stage. New clauses debated and agreed to. Third reading debate. Agreed to on division (330 to 58) and passed.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
439 c974-1072 
Session
2005-06
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Third reading and Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Immigration Asylum and Nationality Bill. As amended in Standing Committee E.
Friday, 28 October 2005
Bills
House of Commons
Government response to the Constitutional Affairs Committee fifth report session 2004/05 (HC 276) on legal aid: asylum appeals.
Friday, 17 June 2005
Command papers
House of Commons
Asylum and immigration appeals. Government response to the second report from the Constitutional Affairs Select Committee (HC 211 2003/04).
Wednesday, 9 June 2004
Command papers
House of Commons
Asylum and immigration appeals. Constitutional Affairs Select Committee second report in 2 volumes with proceedings, evidence (HC 211 i-iv not printed separately) and appendices.
Tuesday, 24 February 2004
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons

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Proceeding contributions
Neil Gerrard | 439 c996 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has put the words into my mouth, because I do not think that I said that new clau...
Adam Afriyie | 439 c1006 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, and I have enjoyed my time serving with him on the Science a...

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Jeremy Hunt | 439 c1006-7 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that one of the most promising and important markets for international stude...
Adam Afriyie | 439 c1007 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent observation, which is certainly factually correct. The Minister is...
Keith Vaz | 439 c1007 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for joining the debate during the hon. Gentleman’s speech. Does he not agree that one wa...
Adam Afriyie | 439 c1006 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. It is true that there is an exchange of understanding betwe...
Elfyn Llwyd | 439 c1006 (Link to this contribution) Earlier in the debate, the Minister said that student numbers had apparently not gone down. We had t...
Adam Afriyie | 439 c1006 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. There is some ambiguity over the numbers, but it seems fairly...
Evan Harris | 439 c1006 (Link to this contribution) : I serve with the hon. Gentleman on that Select Committee. One of the issues that we consider is th...
Adam Afriyie | 439 c1007 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to give way to the hon. Gentleman, who has just arrived in the Chamber. There is no evide...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1009 (Link to this contribution) I should be happy for the hon. Gentleman to write to me, and for the hon. Member for North Thanet (M...
Adam Afriyie | 439 c1009 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for giving way so gracefully. I hope that his answer will be equally graceful. ...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1008 (Link to this contribution) With respect, that is another issue entirely. It is a post-education issue.
Charles Walker | 439 c1008-9 (Link to this contribution) I want to thank the Minister for helping me with a difficult case that has been on my desk for the p...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c1008 (Link to this contribution) Then I shall choose my words carefully. If there is a wonderful, thriving, vibrant market in interna...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1008 (Link to this contribution) I do not underestimate some of the difficulties that many universities are experiencing, but I chall...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c1008 (Link to this contribution) If there is absolutely no problem—
Keith Vaz | 439 c1008 (Link to this contribution) : I am sorry to interrupt the Minister when he was about to tell us about the reception that he was ...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1007-8 (Link to this contribution) As I said at the start of the debate in introducing new clause 1, it is right and proper that Member...
Tony McNulty | 439 c974 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c977 (Link to this contribution) First, I appreciate the spirit in which the Minister has introduced the debate on the new clause. We...
Speaker | 439 c974-6 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Amendment (c) to new clause 1, No. (c), i...
Tony McNulty | 439 c976-7 (Link to this contribution) I preface my remarks to this group of amending provisions by alluding to what happened in Committee....
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c977-9 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says, ““Surely not,”” but I look forward to hearing his views on the other amendments. ...
Evan Harris | 439 c979 (Link to this contribution) (Oxford, West and Abingdon) rose—
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c979 (Link to this contribution) We worked quite closely with the Liberal Democrats and I give way to the hon. Gentleman.
Evan Harris | 439 c979 (Link to this contribution) I certainly endorse the hon. Lady’s remarks: she saves me from having to repeat those points later. ...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c979-80 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. What is interesting about the group of amendments is that we ha...
Tony McNulty | 439 c980 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that it is early days in the application process, but what the hon. Lady has just said ...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c980-2 (Link to this contribution) The Minister needs to consider this in relative terms. Although he believes that applications are up...
Simon Hughes | 439 c982 (Link to this contribution) Entirely in support of that proposition, may I tell the hon. Lady something that is not theory, but ...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c982 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving that example because it certainly puts the flesh on t...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c984-5 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my hon. Friend will manage to catch the Speaker’s eye because he can cite a pertinent an...
Roger Gale | 439 c984 (Link to this contribution) I would hate it if the wrong impression were given. Does my hon. Friend agree that the Home Office’s...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c984 (Link to this contribution) I draw the hon. Gentleman’s attention to amendment No. 4, which would insert in the Bill the phrase:...
Simon Hughes | 439 c983-4 (Link to this contribution) The consequence of the changes might not be addressing the mischief with which the Government intend...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c983 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his words. I hope that he will make a contribution to the debate, cer...
Elfyn Llwyd | 439 c983 (Link to this contribution) I support the hon. Lady’s contentions fully. She referred to the large number of international stude...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c983 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. We are sending the wrong message around the world about the ...
Robert Smith | 439 c983 (Link to this contribution) May I just reinforce the importance of not just that direct economic contribution, but the long-term...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c982-3 (Link to this contribution) Again, I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for making that point. I have been trying to outline exac...
Simon Hughes | 439 c982 (Link to this contribution) A further anomaly is produced—the Minister is alert to this and I hope that he will be sympathetic—w...
Sarah Teather | 439 c989 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the problem is exacerbated by the time that it takes the Home Off...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c989 (Link to this contribution) That situation frequently occurs now. Someone may have been given temporary permission and perhaps e...
Evan Harris | 439 c990 (Link to this contribution) : Members who think that there are various problems with clause 1, including the things that the hon...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c989-90 (Link to this contribution) That is right. Ministers agreed fairly recently that they would look at the form of the letters that...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c986-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend tempts me to go down an enticing route. Yes, the performance of many Government agenc...
Philip Hollobone | 439 c986 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point about initial decisions being incorrect. Is not that a theme in al...
Simon Hughes | 439 c988-9 (Link to this contribution) I endorse and underline the point about the need for certainty, especially as regards the right to c...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c988 (Link to this contribution) I shall try to be briefer than the hon. Member for Chesham and Amersham (Mrs. Gillan) was in explain...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c985-6 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says that, but I have been through the proceedings with a fine-toothed comb and his per...
Evan Harris | 439 c996 (Link to this contribution) That is right. It is not clear whether an unmarried or civil partner is a dependent relative. Given ...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c996 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right that whether an applicant is a member of the family needs consideration....
Evan Harris | 439 c992-6 (Link to this contribution) I shall deal with our concerns about clause 1, and I shall also speak to amendment No. 47, which wou...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c991 (Link to this contribution) I accept that. In Committee, the Minister accepted that this was a serious issue and that he needed ...
Simon Hughes | 439 c991 (Link to this contribution) I hope that we can rid of clause 1, but if we do nothing else today, I hope that Ministers will resp...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c991 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, as that is obviously important. I do not like the new measure which removes indefinit...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c992 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that Members who deal with such cases will know of similar instances. For example, I recen...
Sarah Teather | 439 c992 (Link to this contribution) May I echo the comments of my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Withington (Mr. Leech)? I raise...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c992 (Link to this contribution) I have seen similar cases. Again, the quality of the initial decision making is crucial, but an appe...
John Leech | 439 c992 (Link to this contribution) Young single men have been disproportionately affected by the regulations on family visitor appeals....
Adam Afriyie | 439 c1005-6 (Link to this contribution) I want to thank the Minister for the spirit in which he introduced the debate, which has encouraged ...
Evan Harris | 439 c996-7 (Link to this contribution) I take the hon. Gentleman’s point. If new clause 1 is not improved, or if the Government do not indi...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c998 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that is therefore important that the Minister tells us whether the Departm...
Roger Gale | 439 c997-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Chesham and Amersham has made the point that educational establishm...
Elfyn Llwyd | 439 c1002-3 (Link to this contribution) : I rise to support amendment No. 3, amendment (c) and the consequential amendments tabled by the Li...
Roger Gale | 439 c998-1002 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. It would perhaps have been helpful to hear from the Foreign an...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c1063 (Link to this contribution) I accept what the Minister says about a robust removals programme. Does he accept, however, that the...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1062-3 (Link to this contribution) Of course I will, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am glad that you allowed me a little licence to consider t...
Speaker | 439 c1062 (Link to this contribution) Order. Perhaps the Minister will now address his remarks to the Bill on Third Reading.
Tony McNulty | 439 c1061-2 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not. The Bill should be seen in the context of a substantive political debate. Last Febr...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1061 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, that the Bill be now read the Third time. As is customary on Third Reading, I thank ...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1054-6 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that we have at least some time left. Let me rebut the point made by my hon. Friend the M...
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1054 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief, because I know that the Minister wants to speak. Let me repeat what I said in Com...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution) : I will be brief, given the time that is left. It is a pity that we have such a short time to debat...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1065 (Link to this contribution) I shall follow your exhortation, Madam Deputy Speaker. Suffice to say that a confrere of the hon. Ge...
Speaker | 439 c1065 (Link to this contribution) Order. I hope that in replying to the hon. Gentleman, the Minister will not stray too far from Third...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c1064 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister, who is being exceptionally generous at this late stage in the debate....
Tony McNulty | 439 c1064 (Link to this contribution) I shall cheerfully do so. The new clause was tabled on Report. I think—people far more expert than I...
Philip Hollobone | 439 c1065 (Link to this contribution) : I welcome the Minister’s comments on the need to get tough on deporting those whose applications h...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1064-5 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for my lack of clarity. Working with the Scottish Executive, it was determined that the ...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c1064 (Link to this contribution) On the Scottish context, will the Minister say why the Government tabled new clause 3 on access to t...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1064 (Link to this contribution) I could cite at length coverage in the Scottish media that talks about tear gas and riot police, as ...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c1069 (Link to this contribution) I see that we have about a minute left, so it will be difficult to make much of a contribution. I wa...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c1066-9 (Link to this contribution) : I thank the Minister for his kind remarks about official Opposition Front Benchers and agree that ...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1065-6 (Link to this contribution) I have said no. If the public are to have confidence in immigration policy, we must have a controll...
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1031-4;439 c1031-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point—there is of course a corporate criminal offence set ou...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c1031 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that an employer who is minded to employ people illegally will also be...
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1029-31 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in my hon. Friend’s point. I visited his constituency some months ago, so I know tha...
Philip Hollobone | 439 c1029 (Link to this contribution) : Illegal immigrants working in the Kettering constituency are a serious problem. I have tabled writ...
Speaker | 439 c1028-9 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 9, in page 6, line 31 [Cla...
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1029 (Link to this contribution) We move on to the part of the Bill that deals with rights and duties of employers, and in particular...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1020 (Link to this contribution) I shall happily write to the hon. Gentleman, and I am grateful to him for his comments on the amendm...
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1028 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 8, in page 6, line 28 [Clause 14], after ‘employ’, insert
Tony McNulty | 439 c1019-20 (Link to this contribution) Yes, and I shall deliver the letter by hand. Earlier, I deliberately concentrated on new clause 2, ...
Evan Harris | 439 c1020 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is correct to say that amendment No. 32 covers what we were seeking. I am grateful to h...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c1037-8;439 c1038 (Link to this contribution) I shall not detain the House because, ever the optimist, I remain hopeful that we might still get to...
Keith Vaz | 439 c1036-7;439 c1036-8 (Link to this contribution) I agree. There are more than 220,000 cases that the service has not dealt with. I went to visit the ...
John Greenway | 439 c1038-9 (Link to this contribution) I listened to the hon. Member for Leicester, East (Keith Vaz) with great interest. He and I entered ...
Keith Vaz | 439 c1035 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will not fall asleep when I start speaking.
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1035 (Link to this contribution) No. I would like to insert under amendment No. 15 a provision whereby, following an appeal, a court...
Keith Vaz | 439 c1035-6;439 c1036 (Link to this contribution) I came into the Chamber determined to vote with the Opposition on amendment No. 8 but, having heard ...
Philip Hollobone | 439 c1036 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is correct to identify that the immigration service does not want to have more ru...
Keith Vaz | 439 c1035 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I have not ““woken up””. I have been listening to the hon. ...
Speaker | 439 c1035 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that that is a point of order for the Chair, but I can confirm what the hon. Member f...
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1035 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to address the hon. Member for Leicester, East as Mr. Deputy Speaker, but he seems to be ...
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1048 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 17, in page 14, line 38, after ‘owner’, insert ‘, captain’.
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1044 (Link to this contribution) The Minister, typically, has been extremely soothing and courteous. I was nearly lulled into accepti...
Philip Hollobone | 439 c1040-1 (Link to this contribution) My constituents would not want the opportunity of debating these amendments to pass without my menti...
Andy Burnham | 439 c1041-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to hon. Members for the tone in which the debate has been conducted. We have had a pro...
John Greenway | 439 c1039-40 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. In the hon. Gentleman’s community, he may know that the person in question has a wife and ch...
Keith Vaz | 439 c1042 (Link to this contribution) That is not the point. The Bill will allow those who have the power to go on fishing expeditions to ...
Andy Burnham | 439 c1042-4 (Link to this contribution) The measures must be applied sensitively, which is why the draft code of practice sets out clearly t...
Keith Vaz | 439 c1042 (Link to this contribution) I want the Minister to picture my constituency and areas such as East Park road and the Belgrave roa...
Andy Burnham | 439 c1042 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right to raise such serious issues. I do not know his constituency anything like a...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c1053 (Link to this contribution) Of foreign nationals, as my hon. Friend reminds me from a sedentary position. In our view, that test...
Speaker | 439 c1048 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 18, in page 14, line 41, af...
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1048-9 (Link to this contribution) I propose to make an extremely brief contribution on the amendments. I do not ask the Minister to de...
John Leech | 439 c1049 (Link to this contribution) I shall try to be even briefer than the hon. Member for Woking (Mr. Malins). I fully endorse what t...
Andy Burnham | 439 c1049 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I shall be even more brief than the hon. Members for Woking (Mr. Malins) and for Manches...
Humfrey Malins | 439 c1049 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his response. I believe that several of my amendments have merit, ...
Speaker | 439 c1050 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 35, in page 28, line 2 [Cl...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c1051-3 (Link to this contribution) I should tell the House that, barring anything earth-shatteringly revealing being said by the Minist...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1010 (Link to this contribution) With respect, that is entirely wrong in most instances. I was not traducing or undermining anything ...
Lynne Jones | 439 c1009-10 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend’s comments about the vibrancy of universities were welcome, but his account of their ...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1009 (Link to this contribution) I take that point, which is germane to what I just said about the link between commencement orders a...
Keith Vaz | 439 c1011-2 (Link to this contribution) No one doubts the Minister’s personal sincerity on the matter. He is a dedicated and hard-working co...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c1011 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has accused Conservative Members in Committee and on the Floor of the House of being di...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1011 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely not, otherwise we would not be introducing the new points system and investing heavy reso...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1011 (Link to this contribution) I will do so for the final time on this point because I want to cover other elements without boring ...
Evan Harris | 439 c1010 (Link to this contribution) I think the Minister fairly reflects the disagreement in the Standing Committee about whether the hi...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1010-1 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that it does. I specifically refer to the 900 or 1,000 decisions that were looked at ...
Evan Harris | 439 c1013 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the Minister’s response and I hope to receive his letter in good time for consider...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1012-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his advice, but we are doing that now. We are doing any number o...
Evan Harris | 439 c1013 (Link to this contribution) If it is a small narrow group of people, there is presumably nothing wrong with preserving their rig...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1013 (Link to this contribution) On the substantive elements in new clause 1, I shall disappoint the House in that the most compellin...
Evan Harris | 439 c1014 (Link to this contribution) Surely the Human Rights Act extends beyond those people who are making a claim under it. I urge the ...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1014 (Link to this contribution) Not in the context of this Bill, I say very strongly. Let me say in gentler terms that the hon. Gent...
Simon Hughes | 439 c1014-5 (Link to this contribution) It would be helpful if the Minister could respond—either now or later—to the point made by myself,...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1015 (Link to this contribution) That point was made in the context of amendment No. 33. I said clearly in Committee that unaccompani...
Speaker | 439 c1015 (Link to this contribution) We now move on to new clause 2, with which it will be convenient to consider—[Interruption.]
Evan Harris | 439 c1015 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am sure that you are correct, but I was advised that the ...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1016 (Link to this contribution) I, of course, never ever doubt your guidance in respect of our proceedings, Mr. Deputy Speaker. [Int...
Speaker | 439 c1015 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendments Nos. 30 to 32.
Speaker | 439 c1015 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman follows his list of selected amendments, it will be very straightforward to un...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c1017-9 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that we need detain the House for too long on Government new clause 2, but I am surpr...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1019 (Link to this contribution) I am not hiding behind the letter, and I apologise profusely to members of the Committee if they hav...
Neil Gerrard | 439 c1016 (Link to this contribution) I understand the reasons that my hon. Friend the Minister has given for allowing detainees to undert...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1016-7 (Link to this contribution) That is an entirely fair point, and I hope that my hon. Friend will allow me to get to it later, as ...
Simon Hughes | 439 c1003-5 (Link to this contribution) I, too, shall be brief, but I hope that the Minister, as I have heard him do in other contexts recen...
Cheryl Gillan | 439 c1006 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making an excellent contribution to the debate. Does he agree that it is also a tw...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1064 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not. I can tell the hon. Gentleman quite cheerfully that much of the debate, not least in t...
Keith Vaz | 439 c1039 (Link to this contribution) I agree with much of what the hon. Gentleman is saying. If an employer is going through a busy perio...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1014 (Link to this contribution) I shall write. I do not think that the matter is particularly germane to new clause 1, but I will wr...
Tony McNulty | 439 c1015 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Roger Gale | 439 c997 (Link to this contribution) : I want to discuss amendment No. 3 and the right of appeal for would-be students, and I will use th...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c1050 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 34, in page 28, line 1, leave out Clause 51.
Subjects
Disclosure of information
Appeals
Asylum
Detainees
Applications
British nationality
Crew
Employment
Housing
Human rights
Immigration controls
Immigration
Undocumented migrants
Migrants
Minimum wage
Passengers
Migrant workers
Young people
Refugees
Small businesses
Visas
Immigration and Nationality Directorate
British students abroad
Legislation
Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill 2005-06
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