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Product Regulation and Metrology Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 20 November 2024, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Hunt of Kings Heath and Lord Leong. The answering members were Lord Sandhurst and Lord Sharpe of Epsom.
Lords committee stage first day. Clause 1 under consideration.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
841 cc23-293GC 
Session
2024-25
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (HL) 2024-25
Wednesday, 4 September 2024
Bills
House of Lords
Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill; Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (HL); Water (Special Measures) Bill (HL); Property (Digital Assets etc) Bill (HL); Asylum Support (Prescribed Period) Bill (HL); Consumer Products (Control of Biocides) Bill (HL); Education (Assemblies) Bill (HL); Environmental Targets (Public Authorities) Bill (HL); Mortgage Prisoners Inquiry Bill (HL); Public Authority Algorithmic and Automated Decision-Making Systems Bill (HL); Refugees (Family Reunion) Bill (HL); Universal Credit (Standard Allowance Entitlement of Care Leavers) Bill (HL); Complications from Abortions (Annual Reports) Bill (HL); Imprisonment for Public Protection (Re-sentencing) Bill (HL); Listed Investment Companies (Classification etc) Bill (HL); Non-Consensual Sexually Explicit Images and Videos (Offences) Bill (HL); Palestine Statehood (Recognition) Bill (HL); Women, Peace and Security Bill (HL). Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee second report
Wednesday, 9 October 2024
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (HL). Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee fourth report
Wednesday, 16 October 2024
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Institute for Apprenticeships and Technical Education (Transfer of Functions etc) Bill (HL); Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (HL): Government Response. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee sixth report
Tuesday, 29 October 2024
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

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Deposited Paper DEP2024-0803
Monday, 9 December 2024
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House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2024-0807
Monday, 9 December 2024
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House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2024-0806
Monday, 9 December 2024
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 841 c23GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 3, leave out subsection (1)

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 841 cc23-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 1 and 80 in my name, and to Amendment 133 in the name of the...


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Baroness Fookes | 841 c25GC (Link to this contribution)

If this amendment is agreed, I shall not be able to call Amendments 2 or 3 by reason of pre-empti...

Lord Anderson of Ipswich | 841 cc25-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 133, to which the noble Lord, Lord Sharpe, has just spoken and to w...

Baroness Crawley | 841 cc27-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Anderson of Ipswich. I have an amendment...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 841 cc28-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to have the opportunity to speak in Committee. I begin by apologising ...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 841 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their forbearance as I was rudely interrupted by democracy.

I was s...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 841 cc30-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome this landmark Bill, and I welcome my noble friend the Minister and the noble ...

Lord Frost | 841 c31GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak briefly to my Amendment 128. I begin, like others, by congratulating my noble frien...

Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 841 cc31-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend Lord Sharpe on his appointment. I support his Amendment ...

Earl of Lytton | 841 cc32-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too was unable to be at Second Reading, so this is my first occasion to make comment....

Lord Fox | 841 cc34-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join the cavalcade of congratulations to the noble Lord, Lord Sharpe, on his new role...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 841 c35GC (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Lord aware of the letter dated 28 October from the Minister, Justin Madders, of the ...

Lord Fox | 841 c35GC (Link to this contribution)

I am not a student of parliamentary history, so I do not know if it is an unprecedented letter, b...

Baroness Crawley | 841 c35GC (Link to this contribution)

I believe that the sentence that was just read out was in the report from the Government to the D...

Lord Fox | 841 c35GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel that I am standing in the middle of a perfectly good debate between the noble Ba...

Lord Fox | 841 cc36-7GC (Link to this contribution)

If they find themselves in the same Division Lobby, but that is rather unlikely.

For this r...

Lord Lucas | 841 c37GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have been here before. When the Schools Bill was in front of us, I was very happily ...

Lord Leong | 841 cc37-287GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join noble Lords in congratulating the noble Lord, Lord Sharpe, on his appointment. I...

Lord Fox | 841 c287GC (Link to this contribution)

I think the Minister is trying to have it both ways. On the one hand, this committee is so long-w...

Lord Leong | 841 cc287-40GC (Link to this contribution)

I said earlier that we will look at this on a case-by-case basis. Some regulations will relate to...

Lord Fox | 841 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg your Lordships’ leave, and I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Jackson, for takin...

Lord Leong | 841 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that point. As I see it, it is the whole manufacturing of the product ...

Lord Leong | 841 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

To conclude, I hope that I have been able to provide assurances on all these matters and I assure...

Lord Deben | 841 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, I am very much in favour of most of the Bill, but this bit is ve...

Lord Leong | 841 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that. If it helps, I have gone through some of our 150-odd existing pr...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 841 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to labour the point, but it is either feast or famine. We are being told by the Gov...

Lord Leong | 841 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that. I shall take it away and speak to officials about this, but the ...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 841 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not really have very much to say. I am partially reassured by what the Minister ha...

Lord Foster of Bath | 841 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Foster of Bath

2: Clause 1, page 1, line 4, after “marketing” insert “,...

Lord Foster of Bath | 841 cc42-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by thanking the Minister for his willingness to engage with all noble Lords who...

Lord Sandhurst | 841 cc44-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by saying that, like others, I am grateful to the Minister for the time he gave...

Lord Leong | 841 cc45-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I address Amendments 2 and 27 tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Foster, I need to m...

Lord Foster of Bath | 841 c46GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I almost want to say that the Minister doth protest too much. We have been given a whol...

Lord Fox | 841 c46GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Fox

3: Clause 1, page 1, line 6, leave out “or effectively” and insert ...

Lord Fox | 841 cc46-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 3 is part of group 3, which focuses on the safety of marketed products; we ar...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 841 c48GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Fox, was in full flow. He may resume on Amendment 3.

Lord Fox | 841 c48GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not in full flight; I was merely jogging along the runway.

I have talked to...

Lord Foster of Bath | 841 cc49-50GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment and the amendment that is still to be debated by ...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 841 c50GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Foster of Bath, and my noble friend’s a...

Lord Sandhurst | 841 cc51-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 10, in the name of my noble friend Lord Sharpe of Epsom, whic...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 841 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to respond to this particularly interesting debate. I, too, welcome th...

Lord Fox | 841 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

There is no dichotomy. We do think that the powers are too wide but part of what we want to do is...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 841 cc52-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I was hoping to assure the noble Lord that the way the Bill is constructed should give him comfor...

Lord Foster of Bath | 841 c54GC (Link to this contribution)

Just for absolute clarity, I did not say that the Bill was too discretionary; I said that the cur...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 841 c54GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry if I misinterpreted what the noble Lord said, but I get his drift. We believe that the...

Lord Foster of Bath | 841 c54GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise but I am not quite sure what the Minister’s concern about my amendment therefore is. ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 841 cc54-5GC (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord will let me explain, Clauses 1 and 11 grant powers to make regulations relating...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 841 c55GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the Minister’s indulgence; I have a straightforward question regarding Amendmen...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 841 c289GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that is surprising support from the noble Lord, Lord Foster. This is an iterati...

Lord Fox | 841 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a fox, I take the subject of wild animals somewhat to heart. To some extent the Mini...

Lord Frost | 841 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Frost

4: Clause 1, page 1, line 9, leave out subsection (2)

Membe...

Lord Frost | 841 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 4, I will also speak to my Amendments 6, 15, 36, 37 and 42. I thank...

Lord Frost | 841 cc56-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will pick up where I left off. I was about to note that my six amendments in this gro...

Baroness Newlove | 841 c58GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must inform the Committee that, if Amendment 4 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment ...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 841 cc58-61GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 17 and 127 in my name. I also would like to congratulate the...

Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate | 841 cc61-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise with no emotion in my voice—because, as noble Lords will appreciate, to be a Gov...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 841 cc62-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Kirkhope. Tempted as I am to follow his...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 841 cc64-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the amendment in my name and primarily that of my noble friend Lord F...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 841 c66GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall quickly respond to the noble Lord. One of the reasons why I asked the Minister for some d...

Baroness Lawlor | 841 cc66-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his generous allocation of time the other day to discuss some ...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 841 cc67-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the explicit kind invitation of the noble Lord, Lord Russell, I rise to provide an...

Lord Fox | 841 cc69-70GC (Link to this contribution)

As noble Lords can probably imagine, I have been looking forward to this group for ages, and I th...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 841 c70GC (Link to this contribution)

For someone who is usually very astute, who listens to my views and is very kind in saying that t...

Lord Fox | 841 cc70-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I may have misunderstood—I shall certainly look at Hansard afterwards. But it would be useful for...

Baroness Lawlor | 841 c71GC (Link to this contribution)

May I clarify something? I specified that e-commerce was part of this study, in line with other d...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 841 cc71-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I start, I thank all noble Lords, who have been incredibly generous to me this a...

Lord Leong | 841 cc74-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords and the noble Baroness for their amendments in this group. Products in the sc...

Lord Frost | 841 c76GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been a very interesting debate, even though it may have had a slightly retro fee...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 841 c77GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle

5: Clause 1, page 1, line 9, leave out subs...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 841 cc77-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 5 I will also speak to Amendments 28, 30, 50, 115 and 125, which ar...

Lord Fox | 841 c78GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak very briefly on Amendments 30, 115 and 125, which are in my name. As the n...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 841 cc78-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief. I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, for introducing this group. ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 841 cc79-81GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been an interesting mini debate and I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Be...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 841 cc81-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response and noble Lords who have taken part in this time-...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 841 c82GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I say at once that I pay due regard to the Civil Service and the advice I receive, but ...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 841 c82GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I reassure the noble Baroness that my fridge is more than 20 years old, and I have a ve...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 841 c82GC (Link to this contribution)

I guess the noble Lord has chosen his products well and been extraordinarily lucky. I am afraid s...

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Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland legislative consent sought.
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