Data Protection and Digital Information Bill
Wednesday, 6 December 2023
Bills
House of Lords
Moved by
Lord Clement-Jones
53: Clause 14, page 27, line 21, leave out “is, or”
My Lords, once more into the trenches we go before Easter. In moving Amendment 53, I will also sp...
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My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 57 in my name, Amendment 59 in the name of the noble Baroness...
My Lords, as is so often the case on these issues, it is daunting to follow the noble Baroness as...
My Lords, I speak in favour of the clause stand part notice in my name and that of the noble Lord...
The noble Lord missed the start of the debate.
I apologise and thank the noble Lord for his collegiate approach.
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. We have had a major common...
I thank the noble Lords, Lord Clement-Jones and Lord Knight, my noble friend Lord Holmes and the ...
Lady Harding.
I apologise to my noble friend. I cannot be having a senior moment already—we have only just star...
I am processing what the Minister has just said. He said it complements the AI regulation framewo...
I reject the characterisation of Clause 14 or any part of the Bill as loosening the safeguards. I...
I may be tired or just not very smart, but I am not really sure that I understand how being less ...
Certainly. Being prescriptive and applying one-size-fits-all measures for all processes covered b...
This seems like a very good moment to ask whether, if the variation is based on outcome and neces...
I absolutely agree about the outcome of higher safety for children. We will come to debate whethe...
I am sure the Minister knew I was going to stand up to say that, if it is not part of the regulat...
Indeed. That may well be the case, but how that regulatory instruction is expressed can be done i...
I am having a senior moment as well. Where are the outcomes written? What are we measuring this a...
My Lords, I think we should try to let the Minister make a little progress and see whether some o...
I am sorry, but I just do not accept that intervention. This is one of the most important clauses...
Let me make the broad point that there is no single list of outcomes for the whole Bill but, as w...
I apologise for breaking the Minister’s flow, especially as he had moved on a little, but I have ...
I absolutely recognise the seriousness and importance of the points made by the noble Baroness. O...
Has the Minister moved on from our Amendments 58 and 59? He was talking about varying safeguards....
It is entirely my fault; when I sit down and stand up again, I lose my place.
We would alwa...
My Lords, I feel less reassured after this debate than I did even at the end of our two groups on...
Moved by
Viscount Camrose
61: Clause 14, page 28, line 17, leave out “using sensitive...
Moved by
Viscount Camrose
63: Clause 14, page 28, line 19, leave out “sensitive perso...
Moved by
Lord Clement-Jones
74: After Clause 14, insert the following new Clause—
...My Lords, the Central Digital and Data Office, or CDDO, and the Centre for Data Ethics and Innova...
My Lords, I speak to Amendment 144 in my name, which is supported by the noble Baronesses, Lady H...
My Lords, I rise with the advantage over the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, in that I will speak...
My Lords, I apologise for not being here on Monday, when I wanted to speak about automated decisi...
My Lords, I associate myself with the comments that my noble friend Lord Kamall just made. I have...
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, has, as ever, ably introduced his Amendments 74, 75...
I feel under amazing pressure to get the names right, especially given the number of hours we spe...
My Lords, I wonder whether the Minister can comment on this; he can write if he needs to. Is he s...
I am very happy to write to the noble Lord, but I do not believe that the existence of an ATRS-ge...
I understand that, but if he rewinds the reel he will find that he was talking about the citizen’...
As I said, I will write. I do not believe that follows axiomatically from the ATRS’s existence.
I have a question on this. If the Minister is arguing that this should be by way of amendment of ...
I believe that the AADC already has statutory standing.
On that point, I think that the Minister said—forgive me if I am misquoting him —risk, rules and ...
Yes, I entirely agree with that, but I add that we need it upstream and downstream.
For the...
Can we agree that there will be some discussions with the ICO between now and Report? If those ta...
Yes, I am happy to commit to that. As I said, we look forward to talking with the noble Baroness ...
Some 50,000 organisations access that information, but does the Government have any data on it? I...
We have some numbers that I will come to, but I am very happy to share deeper analysis of that wi...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response. There are a number of different elements to this...
Moved by
Baroness Kidron
79: Clause 15, page 30, line 37, at end insert—
“(ba) ...
My Lords, I will speak to a number of amendments in this group—Amendments 79, 83, 85, 86, 96, 97,...
My Lords, I will speak to almost all the amendments in this group, other than those proposed by t...
My Lords, I rise to speak in support Amendments 79, 83, 85, 86, 93, 96, 97, 105 and 107, to which...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this very wide-ranging debate. Our amen...
I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Kidron and Lady Jones, and the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones,...
The noble Viscount is very interestingly unpacking a risk-based approach to data protection under...
That is a very interesting question, but I am not sure that there is a read-across between the AI...
I did not interrupt before because I thought that the Minister would say more about the differenc...
I will briefly address it now. Based on that letter, the Government’s view is to avoid prescripti...
My Lords, I can see that there is a difference of opinion, but it is unusual for a regulator to g...
I do not know whether it is usual or unusual for the regulator to engage in this way, but the Bil...
Nevertheless, does the Minister accept that quite a lot of countries have now begun the process o...
No, I do not accept that at all. I would suggest that we are saying to businesses, “You must prov...
The Minister mentioned the freedom to choose the best solution. Would it be possible for someone ...
Yes—if the person they were supposed to communicate with did not speak English or was not availab...
The Minister has not really explained the reason for the switch from the DPO to the new system. I...
The data protection officer—I speak as a recovering data protection officer—is tasked with certai...
Does the Minister accept that the SRI will have to cope with having at least a glimmering of an u...
Yes, the SRI will absolutely have to understand all the organisation’s obligations under this Act...
The Minister has reached his 20 minutes. We nudged him at 15 minutes.
Do I have to shut up?
My Lords, just for clarification, because a number of questions were raised, if the Committee fee...
I would like to hear from the Minister.
Yes. We will not stand on ceremony.
As long as that applies to us on occasion as well.
I apologise for going over. I will try to be as quick as possible.
I turn now to the amendm...
My Lords, I hope that no noble Lord expects me to pull all that together. However, I will mention...
My Lords, just in passing, I will say that I am beginning to feel that the decision made by the P...
As the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, explained, his intention to oppose the question that Claus...
This is a mercifully short group on this occasion. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, fo...
I thank the Minister for his response, but he has left us tantalised about the outcome of his mee...
Moved by
Baroness Kidron
103: Clause 20, page 41, line 34, at end insert—
“(e) ...
My Lords, I am somewhat disappointed to be talking to these amendments in the dying hours of our ...
My Lords, given the hour, I will be brief. That was an absolute tour de force by the noble Barone...
My Lords, I, too, will be relatively brief. I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron, for her amen...
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron, for tabling these amendments. I absolutely recognise the...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, and the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, for the...
Moved by
Viscount Camrose
110: Clause 25, page 44, line 18, leave out subsection (3) ...
My Lords, UK law enforcement authorities processing personal data for law enforcement purposes cu...
My Lords, very briefly, I thank the Minister for unpacking his amendments with some care, and for...
My Lords, I too can be brief, having heard the Minister’s response. I thought he half-shot the Cl...
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, for his amendment and his response, and I thank the n...
My Lords, this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn. Happy Easter, everyone.