UK Parliament / Open data

Data Protection and Digital Information Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 20 March 2024, in the House of Lords, led by Viscount Camrose. The answering members were Lord Bassam of Brighton and Baroness Jones of Whitchurch.
Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 4 agreed to.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
837 cc57-96GC 
Session
2023-24
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Data Protection and Digital Information Bill 2022-23 to 2023-24. Brought from the Commons
Wednesday, 6 December 2023
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2024-0416
Thursday, 11 April 2024
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Clement-Jones | 837 c57GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

1: Clause 1, page 2, line 8, at end insert “and in the ab...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 cc57-60GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are beginning rather a long journey—at least, it feels a bit like that. I will speak...


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Lord Kamall | 837 c58GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak in favour of Amendments 1 and 5 in this group and with sympathy towards...

Lord Davies of Brixton | 837 cc58-61GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, anonymisation of data is crucially important in this debate. I want to see, through the...

Baroness Harding of Winscombe | 837 cc61-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support the amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones. As th...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 837 c62GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to make a Second Reading speech, and I know that the noble Lord, Lord Clemen...

Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 837 c62GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, a Division having been called, we will adjourn for 10 minutes and resume at 4.48 pm.

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 837 cc62-3GC (Link to this contribution)

As I was saying, it is important for the framework on data protection that we take a precautionar...

Viscount Camrose | 837 cc63-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this brief, interrupted but none the less interesting ...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 837 c65GC (Link to this contribution)

I follow the argument, but what we are suggesting in our amendment is some sort of impact assessm...

Viscount Camrose | 837 cc65-6GC (Link to this contribution)

Obviously, the Bill has been in preparation for some time. I completely understand the point, whi...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 cc66-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Kamall, Lord Davies of Brixton and Lord Bassam, and the n...

Baroness Kidron | 837 c67GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Kidron

2: Clause 1, page 2, line 16, leave out “and (3)” and insert...

Baroness Kidron | 837 cc67-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to Amendments 2, 3, 9 and 290 in my name. I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Jo...

Baroness Harding of Winscombe | 837 cc69-70GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the nearly nine years that I have been in this House, I have often played the role o...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 cc70-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I keep getting flashbacks. This one is to the Data Protection Act 2018, although I thin...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 837 cc71-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on the Labour Benches have become co-signatories to the amendments tabled by the nob...

Viscount Camrose | 837 cc72-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron, for her Amendments 2, 3, 9 and 290 and to all n...

Viscount Camrose | 837 cc73-4GC (Link to this contribution)

While some provisions in the Bill do not specifically mention children or children’s rights, data...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 837 c74GC (Link to this contribution)

As I understand it, the basis on which we currently operate is that children get a heightened lev...

Viscount Camrose | 837 cc74-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I am saying, specifically on Clause 1, that separating the identifiability of children and the id...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 837 c75GC (Link to this contribution)

Can I press the Minister more on Amendment 290 from the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron? All it does ...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c75GC (Link to this contribution)

I believe it restates what the Government feel is clearly implied or stated throughout the Bill: ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 c75GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, not to put too fine a point on it, the Minister is saying that nothing in the Bill dimi...

Baroness Harding of Winscombe | 837 c75GC (Link to this contribution)

Can I add to that question? Is my noble friend the Minister also saying that there is no risk of ...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c75GC (Link to this contribution)

In answer to both questions, what I am saying is that, first, any risk of misinterpreting the Bil...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 837 c75GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that creates another question, does it not? If that is the case, why amend the original...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c75GC (Link to this contribution)

Sorry, the 2018 Act? Or is the noble Lord referring to the amendments?

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 837 c76GC (Link to this contribution)

Why change the wording that provides the protection that is there currently?

Viscount Camrose | 837 c76GC (Link to this contribution)

I assume the noble Lord is referring to Amendment 290.

Viscount Camrose | 837 c76GC (Link to this contribution)

Okay. The Government feel that, in terms of the efficient and effective drafting of the Bill, tha...

Baroness Kidron | 837 cc76-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before our break, the noble Baroness, Lady Harding, said that this is hard-fought groun...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 c77GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

6: Clause 2, page 4, line 8, leave out from “study” to en...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 cc77-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am going to get rather used to introducing a smorgasbord of probing amendments and st...

Baroness Kidron | 837 cc78-80GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to Amendments 8, 21, 23 and 145 in my name and thank the other noble Lords who ...

Baroness Harding of Winscombe | 837 c80GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief because I associate myself with everything that the noble Baroness, Lad...

Lord Davies of Brixton | 837 cc80-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I just want to say that I agree with what the previous speakers have said. I particularly support...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 837 cc81-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken on this group. Amendment 6 to Clause 2...

Viscount Camrose | 837 cc82-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, and the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, for this series o...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 c83GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt but it may give the Box a chance to give the Minister a note on this. Is ...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c83GC (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I do not have an eidetic memory of recital 159, but I would be happy to—

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 c83GC (Link to this contribution)

That is precisely why I ask this question in the middle of the Minister’s speech to give the Box ...

Viscount Camrose | 837 cc83-5GC (Link to this contribution)

Researchers must also comply with the required safeguards to protect individuals’ privacy. All or...

Baroness Kidron | 837 c85GC (Link to this contribution)

I am interested that the safeguarding requirement is already in the Bill, so, in terms of childre...

Viscount Camrose | 837 cc85-6GC (Link to this contribution)

Just before we broke, I was on the verge of attempting to answer the question from the noble Baro...

Baroness Kidron | 837 c86GC (Link to this contribution)

I will read Hansard very carefully, because I am not sure that I absolutely followed the Minister...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c87GC (Link to this contribution)

With respect to recital 38, that sounds like a really interesting idea. Yes, let us both have a l...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 cc87-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was intriguing. I thank the Minister for his response. It sounds as though, again,...

Baroness Kidron | 837 c88GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Kidron

10: After Clause 4, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Baroness Kidron | 837 cc88-91GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope this is another lightbulb moment, as the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, suggest...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 cc91-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think this is a lightbulb moment—it is inspired, and this suite of amendments fits to...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 837 cc92-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am also pleased to support these amendments in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady K...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c93GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron, for raising this interesting and compelling set of ideas...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 c93GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but the Minister used a pretty pejorative word: “distort” the sector. What does he ha...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c93GC (Link to this contribution)

I did not mean to be pejorative; I merely point out that before embarking on quite a far-reaching...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 c93GC (Link to this contribution)

Is this one of those “in due course” moments?

Viscount Camrose | 837 cc93-4GC (Link to this contribution)

It is a moment at which I cannot set a firm date for a firm set of actions, but on the other hand...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to keep interrupting the Minister. Can he give us a bit of a picture of what...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

Overall, as I say and as many have said in this brief debate, this is a potentially far-reaching ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 837 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

May I suggest that the Minister writes? On the one hand, he is saying that we will be distorting ...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to write on this. I will just say that I am not briefed on previous government po...

Viscount Camrose | 837 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

It was even further. Yes, I am very happy to write on that. For the reasons I have set out, I am ...

Baroness Kidron | 837 cc95-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the co-signatories of my amendments for their enthusiasm. I will make three ver...

Notes
Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland legislative consent sought.
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