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Victims and Prisoners Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 7 February 2024, in the House of Lords, led by Earl Howe and Lord Roborough. The answering members were Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede and Baroness Thornton.
Lords committee stage fourth day. Clause 28 agreed to. (Part 2 of 2).
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
835 cc1710-1738 
Session
2023-24
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Victims and Prisoners Bill 2022-23 to 2023-24. Brought from the Commons
Wednesday, 6 December 2023
Bills
House of Lords
Victims and Prisoners Bill
Wednesday, 7 February 2024
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Garnier | 835 c1711 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Garnier

112: After Clause 27, insert the following new Clause—

“C...

Lord Garnier | 835 cc1711-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is grouped with an amendment proposed by the noble Baroness, Lady Brinto...


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Baroness Brinton | 835 cc1714-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Garnier. I have the second ...

Lord Sandhurst | 835 cc1715-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly to Amendment 112. My noble and learned friend’s proposal is an exc...

Baroness Newlove | 835 c1716 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the probing amendment from the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, which is an oppo...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 835 cc1716-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly address both amendments.

On the amendment from the noble and learn...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 835 cc1717-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Garnier, and the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton,...

Lord Roborough | 835 cc1718-1720 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble and learned friend Lord Garnier for raising this issue in Amendment 11...

Lord Garnier | 835 cc1720-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, of course I will beg leave in a moment or two to withdraw my amendment. I am very grate...

Lord Sandhurst | 835 c1721 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sandhurst

113: After Clause 27, insert the following new Clause—

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Lord Sandhurst | 835 cc1722-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 113 and 114. Amendment 113 seeks to impose a duty to inform ...

Baroness Brinton | 835 cc1723-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I signed this amendment, and it is a rerun for me, as I had similar amendments in the P...

Lord Garnier | 835 cc1724-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not want to take much time. I understand, and indeed sympathise with, the thrust o...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1725 (Link to this contribution)

Part of the object of the amendments is to ensure that the scheme is published and explained. Tha...

Lord Garnier | 835 c1725 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot quite see the wording that the noble Baroness refers to, but I am not sure I think it a ...

Baroness Hamwee | 835 c1725 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I raise an issue with regard to the time limit. It is not from the wording of the amend...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 835 c1725 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the principle put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Sandhurst, that there shoul...

Baroness Newlove | 835 c1726 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have noticed the time as well, and the points that I was going to raise have already ...

Baroness Thornton | 835 c1726 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for the previous explosion from my phone—I was just making sure that you ar...

Lord Roborough | 835 cc1726-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Sandhurst for Amendment 113, in relation to the unduly len...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 835 c1727 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, would it be possible for the Minister to find out whether the police keep records of th...

Lord Roborough | 835 c1728 (Link to this contribution)

The noble and learned Lord makes a very sensible request, and I will do my best to write to him.<...

Lord Sandhurst | 835 c1728 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to various noble Lords for their support, the points that they have made,...

Lord Wills | 835 c1728 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wills

119A: Clause 28, page 29, line 23, leave out paragraph (a) and in...

Lord Wills | 835 cc1728-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 119A to 119C in my name have been drafted to allow the independent public ad...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 835 cc1729-1730 (Link to this contribution)

I have a very short amendment—wholly unrelated to what has just been put forward—and I thank thos...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 835 cc1730-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 119A to 119C in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Wills.

I su...

Baroness Sanderson of Welton | 835 c1731 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Wills, in some of the issues he r...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 835 cc1731-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for moving his Amendment 119A and speaking to his other two ame...

Earl Howe | 835 cc1732-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords for bringing forward the amendments in this group. All but...

Lord Wills | 835 c1734 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to everyone who has spoken in this short discussion and to the noble Lord...

Baroness Thornton | 835 c1734 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

121: After Clause 28, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Thornton | 835 cc1735-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in many ways, my Amendment 121 continues the discussion about the victims of major inci...

Baroness Newlove | 835 cc1736-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment. The Manchester Arena terror atrocity in 2017 chilled every pa...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 835 c1737 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish briefly to add my support to this amendment. It seems to me that there is no goo...

Lord Roborough | 835 cc1737-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 121, tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, is intended to establish a ...

Baroness Thornton | 835 c1738 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that answer. If I understood him correctly, his key point was that the...

Lord Roborough | 835 c1738 (Link to this contribution)

It might help the noble Baroness if I wrote with a fuller explanation of how it could compromise ...

Baroness Thornton | 835 c1738 (Link to this contribution)

That would be useful to the Committee, because then the legal eagles behind me and on other Bench...

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