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Victims and Prisoners Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 7 February 2024, in the House of Lords, led by Earl Howe. The answering members were Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede and Baroness Thornton.
Lords committee stage fourth day. Clauses 16 to 27 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
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Session
2023-24
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber

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Deposited Paper DEP2024-0382
Monday, 25 March 2024
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House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Thornton | 835 c1654 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

78: After Clause 15, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Thornton | 835 cc1654-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as well as moving Amendment 78, I shall also speak to Amendment 79 in my name, with the...


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Baroness Bertin | 835 cc1657-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on behalf of my noble friend Lady Morgan, who is sorry not to be here today, I shall sp...

Baroness Finn | 835 cc1658-1660 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 106 in the name of and on behalf of the noble Baroness, La...

Baroness Hamwee | 835 cc1660-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 115 and would certainly have put my name to it had there been any s...

Lord Hampton | 835 c1661 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly to my Amendments 103 and 103A, which the noble Baroness, Lady Thor...

Baroness Newlove | 835 cc1661-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support most of the amendments in this group, which is quite lengthy. One of my key p...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 835 cc1664-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support effectively all the amendments in this group, but your Lordships will be reli...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 835 c1666 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make three brief observations. First, I warmly commend Amendment 115. The law ne...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 835 c1666 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make a very brief point, following on from that made by my noble and learned fri...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 835 cc1666-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in this group, I will speak only to Amendments 78 and 79, in the names of the noble Bar...

Baroness Brinton | 835 cc1668-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my noble friend for so admirably speaking to Amendments 78 and 79—I will no...

Earl Howe | 835 cc1669-1670 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with this group of amendments we arrive at a particularly sensitive and emotive set of ...

Baroness Thornton | 835 c1670 (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Earl clarify that he is saying that it is up to the victim to take the action?

Earl Howe | 835 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

The law is there to enable them to do that. However, where they have an advocate, that person can...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

May I pick up on the Minister’s response to the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton? The whole problem ...

Earl Howe | 835 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

I will be very happy to do that because I fully recognise the seriousness of the issue, and in pa...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 835 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Earl has laid out, in his usual exemplary way, the way that the system is meant to work...

Earl Howe | 835 cc1671-2 (Link to this contribution)

I have heard the strength of feeling on this, and I will be more than happy to take the issues ra...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 835 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl for giving way. I ask whether the code will, in fact, i...

Earl Howe | 835 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise the seriousness of the issue. I have no advice in my brief on that, but I will be hap...

Baroness Newlove | 835 cc1672-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is exactly as the noble Lord, Lord Marks, said. He put it so succinctly, more so tha...

Baroness Bertin | 835 c1673 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will also come in on this. I have huge respect for the noble Earl, and I have huge re...

Earl Howe | 835 cc1673-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am the first to agree that a code of practice takes us only a certain distance. We al...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 835 c1674 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Earl for giving way. I have not spoken in this group so far, because I...

Earl Howe | 835 c1674 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, having tasked the Law Commission, as we have, with preparing a full-scale set of recomm...

Baroness Bertin | 835 c1674 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make a technical point about the Law Commission review, which I have full respect for. ...

Earl Howe | 835 c1675 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what my noble friend has said. I was able to give what I hoped was helpful information in ...

Baroness Newlove | 835 cc1675-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for that response to the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay. I did a report on r...

Earl Howe | 835 c1676 (Link to this contribution)

I would be happy to write to my noble friend.

Amendment 173 seeks to extend Clause 24 to th...

Baroness Thornton | 835 cc1676-7 (Link to this contribution)

I assume the noble Earl is asking me to withdraw my amendment.

I thank all noble Lords who ...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 835 c1677 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Chakrabarti

82: After Clause 15, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Chakrabarti | 835 cc1677-1681 (Link to this contribution)

I have recovered my calm and my optimism that we may get some more positive noises from the Gover...

Baroness Brinton | 835 cc1681-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to sign all the amendments from the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, ...

Baroness Newlove | 835 cc1683-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support all these amendments. As Victims’ Commissioner, I have been in contact with m...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 835 cc1684-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise with some trepidation, but also with an open mind because I want some clarity on...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 835 c1685 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I said the other day in speaking to my amendments, I hope everyone accepts, that more women ...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1685 (Link to this contribution)

The argument that the noble Baroness is expanding on now would be a case where a couple had separ...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 835 c1685 (Link to this contribution)

My only final point is to say that the term “parental alienation” has become problematic on both ...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 835 c1686 (Link to this contribution)

I will briefly respond to the noble Baroness. I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Fox, for her const...

Lord Meston | 835 cc1686-1690 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, having started to grow old in the family courts, I feel that I ought to address some of...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 835 cc1689-1693 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we have heard, Amendment 82, the first in this group, is designed to prevent a paren...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 835 cc1692-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I open by agreeing with the last point made by the noble Lord, Lord Marks, that the ove...

Earl Howe | 835 cc1694-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by thanking the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, for tabling this group of ame...

Lord Meston | 835 c1696 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to interrupt, and I understand the drift of what the noble Earl is saying, b...

Earl Howe | 835 c1697 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Lord for those comments and will ensure that they are fed back to...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 835 c1697 (Link to this contribution)

I take the opportunity of this conversation to request that, when the noble Earl feeds back to th...

Earl Howe | 835 cc1697-9 (Link to this contribution)

I take the point about burdens placed on families at exactly the point they should not be, and I ...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 835 cc1699-1700 (Link to this contribution)

I am so grateful to the Committee for the time we have spent on this lengthy but, I hope everyone...

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Welsh legislative consent sought.
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