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Moved by
Baroness Lister of Burtersett
56: Clause 12, page 15, line 39, at end insert...
My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 57, 59 and 60 in my name and those of the noble Barone...
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My Lords, I strongly welcome my noble friend’s initiative in building and setting up reception ce...
My Lords, I rise to speak in support of Amendments 56, 57 and 59 in the name of the noble Barones...
My Lords, I point out to the noble Lord, Lord Horam, that the stresses and strains being experien...
My Lords, in rising to support these amendments, to some of which I have added my name, I declare...
My Lords, one rises to talk in this debate having heard speeches from the noble Baronesses and th...
My point was that I just do not believe that they should be right next door to military barracks....
I accept that point, but I do not accept the point that large centres cannot work if they are pro...
My Lords, I support these amendments and pay tribute to those whose names are attached to them, b...
Surely in many instances we will not know the state of their claim when those people are accommod...
It was the assumption that we were talking about illegal immigrants. The vast majority of the peo...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 61 in my name. Unlike the previous amendments that have been ...
My Lords, I rise briefly to speak to these amendments and congratulate my noble friend Lady Liste...
My Lords, I support all the amendments in this group and I ask the Minister to address in her res...
My Lords, noble Lords will not be surprised if I strike a somewhat different note; none the less,...
I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord but, according to the Refugee Council, which did a very ca...
I think we need to be careful not to make an assumption in either direction. I was quoting the Ho...
Does my noble friend agree that it would be helpful to the Committee if, when the Minister comes ...
Yes, 125,000 is correct, and I think that many—most—are waiting for more than a year. But if I ma...
Will the noble Lord give way?
No; it is very simple —too simple for the noble Baroness—but it would mean that we do not need hu...
My Lords, I would not want this whole debate to turn on the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Gree...
That is correct. If the two are added together, it averages about 40,000 a year over the last eig...
I do not want to pursue the point, because it is diverting us from the particular amendments, whi...
My Lords, it seems to me that this debate reflects what we said yesterday in our debate and what ...
My Lords, I start by thanking the noble Baroness, Lady Lister of Burtersett, for so comprehensive...
The noble Lord mentioned that most applicants will become refugees. I have the Home Office figure...
I am very grateful for the historic information that the noble Lord has provided. My understandin...
I too express my appreciation to my noble friend Lady Lister of Burtersett for the determination ...
To get the timescale on this, I say that 10 years ago it was 40,000 asylum seekers a year. That i...
The potential is, of course, a matter of speculation. I note the point the noble Lord makes, but ...
I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord, but my understanding is that the number of asylum claims ...
The point I wanted to make was that, when people were coming over in the back of lorries—not all ...
My Lords, I thank all the noble Lords for their contributions to this debate. I will clear up two...
Before the noble Baroness leaves that point, is she able to give an average time to process these...
I think I said right at the outset that I do not have a figure at this point in time. In terms of...
I am sorry to interrupt, but I was so struck when we took evidence about sleep deprivation from p...
The noble Baroness and I share more in common than I thought, because sleep deprivation, which I ...
It was simply in pairs. That was quite clearly stated to us. Two in a room was quite welcome, but...
Okay, I thank the right reverend Prelate for being so specific. However, I do not think that, fun...
Will the Minister at this point make a firm, absolute assurance not only that there are no curren...
I do not think I can go further than saying that there are no current plans because if a child wa...
Could the Minister at least give an assurance that, except in the most exceptional circumstances,...
I understand the noble Baroness’s point. I cannot go beyond saying there are no current plans, bu...
My Lords, if the Minister is coming on to that, perhaps I should sit down, because I was going to...
That is what I am going to come on to, if noble Lords will accommodate me—no pun intended—for a s...
The point was made very clearly that these centres should not be places of detention. I was waiti...
I repeat that these are not detention centres. There may be specific conditions—for example, if a...
I am sorry to interrupt—I know that there is a lot to cover—but I want to follow on from that imp...
I can assist the Minister here.
We saw and talked to people who were going out into Folkestone for a walk and coming back. So if ...
I know that the Committee will believe a holy man over me—so, yes, God’s representative on earth ...
One of many. The right reverend Prelate is absolutely correct and put it perfectly.
Where w...
I thank the Minister for her comprehensive answers. Report after report has highlighted the impor...
I was going to come on to that, and I shall do so now. The right reverend Prelate has mentioned E...
My Lords, the Minister may recall that some years ago I came to see her, with the then Minister B...
I do not think there is any disagreement here. I have seen some great examples—particularly in th...
It was also particularly in relation to LGBTQI people placed in those situations.
Yes, I totally concur with the noble Lord’s point.
I turn to the judgment on Napier, mentio...
The Minister is valiantly dealing seriatim with the qualms that so many of us have about accommod...
I am very grateful to the noble Lord for asking that question. When someone arrives in this count...
As long as the queue is three, four or five years long, it is not really just a question of initi...
The noble Lord is absolutely right, and this goes right back to the beginning of this discussion....
Does my noble friend agree that there must be a limit to the resources available to deal with the...
There is a limit to both the resources and the geography of this country. That is why the system ...
My Lords, I thank Committee Members for their kind words and, more importantly, those who made st...
Does the noble Baroness agree that there should be a distinction between those who have had their...
No, I am sorry; I do not, because they are all people. We should start by accepting their common ...
Moved by
Lord Paddick
64: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—
“As...
My Lords, this is a rare treat: a group with only two amendments. I will speak both to Amendment ...
Yes, indeed, and 49% were not.
There is agreement. In 2019, it was 65%. To prevent such a large proportion of asylum seekers wor...
—and I beg to move Amendment 64.
My Lords, I was trying to intervene on the noble Lord’s speech, and I apologise to him for doing ...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 65, in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud. She is ve...
My Lords, I rise to support the amendment tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, and supporte...
My Lords, it is an absolute pleasure to follow both my noble friend Lady Lister of Burtersett—who...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, except that she droppe...
My Lords, the case for asylum seekers being able to work after a few months is compelling. I am s...
The noble Baroness made a very important point about public opinion. I draw her attention to a st...
The noble Lord has taken the wind out of my sails; I was going to quote that statistic, though I ...
My Lords, I support Amendment 64, to which I have added my name. I also strongly support Amendmen...
My Lords, it is quite daunting to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher. I very much hope that ...
My Lords, we have heard eight speakers on one side of this debate, and I think a word is in order...
I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord, and it may be that he was going on to acknowledge this, b...
Yes, I heard that opinion poll mentioned a couple of times. I would actually like to see the ques...
I know that the noble Lord is concerned about asylum seekers who turn out not to be recognised. N...
I do not see the relevance of that question.
Let me conclude, if I may. As we discussed ear...
My Lords, I rise to support Amendment 64 and 65. Before I specifically speak to them, I say to th...
I am a bit puzzled. Although the precise numbers vary from year to year, it is quite clear that s...
Can I intervene on an intervention? What is wrong if those people are allowed to work? If it is t...
I say to the noble Lord, Lord Green, that, at the end of the day, of course you want to speed the...
My Lords, I again thank noble Lords who have spoken on these two amendments. The fact that there ...
I support these amendments, because they are good economics and good social policy, but if the Go...
My Lords, it is based on a calculation. I shall not try to bluster my way through what that calcu...
I hate to say it, but I have just checked my phone and there is no evidence there of that letter ...
My Lords, we often say that we will not provide a running commentary, but I will provide a runnin...
My Lords, we have the famous Dubs letter; I do not know why others have not—maybe it was sent to ...
Moved by
Baroness Lister of Burtersett
66: After Clause 12, insert the following new ...
My Lords, Amendment 66 is also in the names of the noble Baronesses, Lady Hamwee and Lady Jones o...
My Lords, I am glad to have my name to this amendment. I am aware—to use the rather odd language ...
Am I a terrier as well? I think of myself as a larger animal, but a terrier will do. There is alm...
My Lords, however undesirable accommodation centres may be, being thrown out on to the street as ...
As the noble Lord has mentioned me by name, I feel duty-bound to respond. It is far from my respo...
The noble Baroness is absolutely right, except that those who interject constantly with tiny, mea...
Coming from where I have, it seems incredibly courteous to me. We have Ministers who try to answe...
My Lords, again, I thank noble Lords who have made points. I will attempt to assist the noble Lor...
My Lords, perhaps I could just explain to both noble Baronesses that it was facts that were in di...
That is not in dispute; I was just echoing the point made by my noble friend Lady Stowell about r...
My Lords, I thank everyone who spoke in support of the amendment, and I thank the Minister. I did...