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Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 17 November 2021, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage ninth day. Clauses 132 to 139 agreed to, with clause 139 agreed to as amended. Schedules 15 and 16 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).
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816 cc241-277 
Session
2021-22
Department
Ministry of Justice
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Committee stage
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House of Lords chamber

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Proceeding contributions
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 816 cc241-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Falconer of Thoroton

219B: Clause 132, page 124, line 35, at end insert...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 816 cc242-3 (Link to this contribution)

Before we come to this important group of amendments, I have one housekeeping matter. As noble Lo...


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Baroness Butler-Sloss | 816 c243 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 220. I feel very strongly about the issue of the age of resp...

Lord German | 816 cc243-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I present the apologies of my noble friend Lord Dholakia, who is unwell and in some con...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 816 c246 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support this amendment, as I have supported the PMBs on this from the noble ...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 816 c246 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also rise to support Amendment 220. When I was chairman of the Commission on Justice ...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 816 cc246-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is very good to see the Committee refreshed and to have the opportunity to meet earl...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 816 cc247-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak in place of my noble friend Lady Bennett, who has tabled Amendment 221....

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 816 cc249-250 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the noble Baroness who has just spoken. It is a pleasure, on this occasi...

Lord Sandhurst | 816 cc250-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may begin by saying that I support Amendment 220. I endorse it completely and...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 816 c252 (Link to this contribution)

I should say briefly in the absence of the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett of Manor Castle—perhaps i...

Lord Hogan-Howe | 816 cc252-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I broadly support a rise in the age of criminal responsibility. I think the review is a...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 816 cc253-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am constantly amazed by the persistence of this generally civilised country in being ...

Baroness Sater | 816 cc254-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak briefly to Amendment 221B in my name, which is a probing amendment on t...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 816 c255 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the noble Baroness for speaking before her; I did not realise that she w...

Lord German | 816 cc255-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too have added my name to Amendment 221A, which would make youth diversion schemes st...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 816 cc256-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join noble Lords in wishing the noble Lord, Lord Dholakia, well and a fast recovery. ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 816 c257 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble and learned Lord misunderstood, if I may say so, what I was saying. Of course...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 816 c258 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was my fault. I was not for one moment suggesting that the noble and learned Baron...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 816 c258 (Link to this contribution)

Surely the noble and learned Lord is not saying that the public aspect of this, which he describe...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 816 c258 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that it does not need to be dealt with in a criminal trial, but there needs to be some pr...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 816 c258 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I associate myself with everything that the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Slo...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 816 c259 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that the age of criminal responsibility should go up. I strongly endorse what everybody ...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 cc259-262 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments concern youth justice matters. I will address each of them in turn.

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 816 c262 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister deal with two points that he has not yet addressed? First, even Scotland has go...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 c263 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that there is a range of ages across Europe. We are at 10; some are at 12; some are ...

Baroness Sater | 816 c263 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend the Minister for his response. On the jurisdiction of under-18 year-olds,...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 c263 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend for the question, and for taking the time to discuss it with me ...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 816 c263 (Link to this contribution)

My amendment was the monitoring amendment and was not the heat and burden of this debate. I beg l...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 816 c264 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot call Amendment 221ZA, as it is an amendment to Amendment 221.

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 c264 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar

222: Clause 139, page 128, line 15, leave out “pupi...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 c264 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 222 and 223, which I move today on behalf of the Government, are technical a...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 816 cc264-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to talk about Amendment 223B onwards; Amendment 223A comes first, but I am happy to st...

Lord German | 816 cc265-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for being slightly out of turn; I will speak to Amendment 223A in my name a...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 816 cc267-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord German. I know that he has an immense a...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 816 cc268-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry, I was looking around the Chamber to see who was poised and trying to be too...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 816 cc269-270 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, our first aim with Amendment 223A, to which I have added my name, is to ensure that sec...

Baroness Blower | 816 cc270-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it takes a very particular kind of person to be a teacher, but it takes a much more par...

Lord German | 816 c271 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to those who have spoken in this short debate. Clearly this amendmen...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 cc271-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I first turn to Amendment 223A from the noble Lord, Lord

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Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 816 c272 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. Has he had regard to Section 6 of the Academies Act...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 cc272-4 (Link to this contribution)

It might well be that it operates in a slightly circuitous way. I have not looked at that section...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 816 c273 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister mentioned £259 million in relation to the secure training programme. I may have not ...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 c273 (Link to this contribution)

My understanding is that the £259 million was announced in the spending review to continue the pr...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 816 c273 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down and before I admit to nodding, the point he made is why I referred ...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 c273 (Link to this contribution)

The reason why I did not say it in terms that I was certain that the noble Lord had got it wrong ...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 816 c273 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar

223: Clause 139, page 128, line 22, leave out “pupi...

Lord Paddick | 816 c273 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

224: Clause 140, page 129, line 27, leave out “on the balance o...

Lord Paddick | 816 c275 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the leave of the Committee, I am going to make a slightly unusual request. The nob...

Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 816 cc275-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am enormously grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Paddick. I am chairing a Select Commit...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 816 cc276-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Paddick will speak from the Front Bench for my party on this group...

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