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2016-17

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Criminal Finances Bill 2016-17. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 22 February 2017
Bills
House of Lords

Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twenty-second report.
Wednesday, 15 March 2017
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Criminal Finances Bill
Tuesday, 28 March 2017
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords

Deposited Paper DEP2017-0306
Friday, 31 March 2017
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Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 782 c482 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 13, after “satisfie...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 782 cc482-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a modest amendment that is grouped with around 58 other amendments which deal w...

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Lord Davies of Stamford | 782 c484 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord has said that his amendment is merely probing. Clearly, the purpose of a...

Lord Blair of Boughton | 782 c484 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords—

Lord Faulks | 782 cc484-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is on a number of amendments. I wonder whether the noble Lord will allow me to ...

Baroness Hamwee | 782 cc487-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was instinctively drawn to the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson of As...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 782 c489 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in common with the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, I too oppose Amendment 1. These unexplained...

Lord Blair of Boughton | 782 c489 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that I did not interrupt the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, because he and the noble and lear...

Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers | 782 c489 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in harmony with the previous two speakers. I have some experience of this area,...

Lord Sharkey | 782 cc490-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 10, 13, 20 and 22 to 25 in this group, all of which are prob...

Lord Faulks | 782 c491 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord goes on to the next amendments, could he help the Committee with one point?...

Lord Sharkey | 782 c491 (Link to this contribution)

If it were absolutely clear that you cannot obtain an unexplained wealth order without satisfying...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 782 cc491-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the legislation on UWOs. I have a number of declarations of interest, and I o...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 782 cc492-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Bill was welcomed by all sides of the House at Second Reading. Unexplained wealth o...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc493-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this excellent debate. We have had some ...

Baroness Hamwee | 782 c495 (Link to this contribution)

I could repeat my question about the temptation to get at the low-hanging fruit and not use the o...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c495 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is right that both ends of the scale should be tackled, so I hope that law enf...

Lord Faulks | 782 c495 (Link to this contribution)

When questions were raised at Second Reading about the scope of the orders and how many might be ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc495-6 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend and the noble Baroness have made the case for both ends of the threshold. My nobl...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 782 c496 (Link to this contribution)

In support of my noble friend, the experience of POCA has been that the amount recovered has been...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c496 (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Lord talking about the high point with regard to the UWO triggering point? The Gover...

Lord Faulks | 782 c496 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the Minister. I thought that the answer to this point was provided by the...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc496-500 (Link to this contribution)

That is correct, but I thought I might go through it. I am just being thorough.

Amendment 5...

Baroness Hamwee | 782 c498 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on that last point, I was not clear whether the Minister was saying that defendants’ li...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c498 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is right: they are provided for because they are in line with existing powers ...

Baroness Hamwee | 782 c498 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that it would be right to have everything dealt with in the same hearing. I que...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c498 (Link to this contribution)

I did say “hearing”.

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 782 c498 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we began with my modest amendment an hour and 40 minutes ago, and we have obviously ran...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c498 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

3: Clause 1, page 2, line 10, at end insert—

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c501 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

6: Clause 1, page 2, line 35, after “satisfied...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c501 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

8: Clause 1, page 2, line 37, leave out “£100,...

Lord Faulks | 782 c501 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Faulks

11: Clause 1, page 3, line 5, at end insert—

“(c) the resp...

Lord Faulks | 782 cc501-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, a walk around the centre of London after dark reveals that large parts of the city are ...

Lord Rooker | 782 cc503-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to speak on this amendment, but it gives me the opportunity to raise...

Lord Deben | 782 cc504-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment because I have been for many years concerned about housing. Thi...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 782 cc505-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start with a very pedantic point. If this amendment is to go ahead, it needs to begin...

Baroness Kramer | 782 c506 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not pretend for a moment to have the drafting skills of the noble and learned Lord...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 782 cc506-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have touched on this subject already. As president of Westminster North Conservative ...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 782 c507 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment and the sentiments that have been expressed. Like other noble ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 782 cc507-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 11 is tabled in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, and my noble friend...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c509 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this short debate. I am grateful for their contrib...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 782 c509 (Link to this contribution)

I hesitate to intervene, but this is a point of general relevance to the Bill. The Minister refer...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c509 (Link to this contribution)

I do not entirely understand what the noble Lord said.

Lord Lea of Crondall | 782 c509 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister make sure that this question is looked at? Otherwise, we will have on the statu...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc509-511 (Link to this contribution)

I am much clearer about this. Obviously negotiations will be conducted as the Brexit negotiations...

Lord Rooker | 782 c511 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is missing the point, although I am sure she is not doing so deliberately. No bank h...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c511 (Link to this contribution)

I hope the noble Lord does not think that I have ever tried to mislead the House. I talked about ...

Lord Faulks | 782 cc511-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who took part in the debate and for the general suppor...

Lord Rooker | 782 c512 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps through the noble Lord, as the Minister talks to her officials, I can invite her to watch...

Lord Faulks | 782 c512 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful for that intervention, which supports the point that these effective owners ma...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c512 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

12: Clause 1, page 3, line 23, at end insert—<...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c513 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

14: Clause 1, page 3, line 30, at end insert—<...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c513 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

17: Clause 1, page 4, line 29, at end insert—<...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c513 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

19: Clause 1, page 5, line 35, leave out “othe...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc513-4 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

21: Clause 1, page 7, line 1, at end insert—

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c514 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

28: Clause 2, page 12, line 34, at end insert—...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc514-5 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

30: Clause 4, page 14, line 15, at end insert—...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c515 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

36: Clause 4, page 15, line 20, at end insert—...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc515-6 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

38: Clause 4, page 15, line 27, at end insert—...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c517 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

56: Clause 5, page 24, line 32, at end insert—...

Baroness Hamwee | 782 c517 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Hamwee

58: Clause 9, page 29, leave out lines 10 to 13

Baroness Hamwee | 782 cc517-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 58 and 59 deal with the same provision in the Bill. We have now come to the ...

Viscount Ullswater | 782 c518 (Link to this contribution)

I must advise the Committee that if this amendment is agreed to, I shall not be able to call Amen...

Lord Rosser | 782 cc518-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 72 in this group. The Bill provides for extensions to the suspicious a...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 782 cc519-520 (Link to this contribution)

I want to address only Amendments 58 and 59, both of which I oppose, to new Section 336B on page ...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 782 c520 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 72, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Rosser. It has been common ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc520-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments cover measures in Chapter 2 of Part 1 of the Bill. I thank noble Lords...

Lord Rosser | 782 c522 (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Baroness satisfied that this matter has been dealt with as expeditiously as possible...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc522-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recognise that the issue was considered in 2015. It is now 2017. I totally take on bo...

Baroness Hamwee | 782 c523 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as regards the bad things in subsection (5), I would feel more comfortable if these wer...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c523 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

62: Clause 10, page 36, line 4, at end insert—...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc524-5 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

64: Clause 11, page 37, line 4, leave out from...

Baroness Hamwee | 782 c525 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Hamwee

70: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Hamwee | 782 cc525-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment would provide a new clause on anti-money laundering supervision, requiri...

Lord Rosser | 782 cc526-8 (Link to this contribution)

We have Amendment 73 in this group, which is on not dissimilar lines to the amendment moved by th...

Lord Sharkey | 782 c528 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 108 seeks to help the FCA to ensure meaningful compliance and right behaviour...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 782 cc528-531 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendments 126 and 127 in this group. They impose duties on the National Crime A...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c531 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments in this group have raised some important points around regulation and su...

Lord Sharkey | 782 c531 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister accept that there is a big difference between having the powers to do something...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc531-2 (Link to this contribution)

I take the noble Lord’s point that one is perhaps much simpler, but of course each case is differ...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 782 c532 (Link to this contribution)

I thought I heard the Minister say that the NCA is not a regulator, but I do not understand why i...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc532-3 (Link to this contribution)

That is correct.

I now turn to Amendment 70, moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and ...

Lord Rosser | 782 c533 (Link to this contribution)

For clarification, the Minister referred to the Government’s intention to create a new office for...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c534 (Link to this contribution)

It may be helpful to the noble Lord if I reiterate the point that I made. The Treasury published ...

Lord Rosser | 782 c534 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying that setting up a new body that will have powers over other bodies can be ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c534 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know, which is why I will write to the noble Lord, if he is happy with that.

Baroness Hamwee | 782 c534 (Link to this contribution)

That will be helpful. As I understood it, the proposal was for regulations, and the further consu...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c534 (Link to this contribution)

I have just had an answer from the Box. It will in fact be secondary legislation that is laid bef...

Baroness Hamwee | 782 c534 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I should accept that it will be up to us to ensure that transparency and accoun...

Baroness Kramer | 782 cc534-5 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Kramer

71: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Kramer | 782 cc535-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is designed to strengthen the protection for whistleblowers but also to ...

Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers | 782 c537 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment. I suggest that whistleblowers need to be both protected and r...

Lord Faulks | 782 cc537-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sure the whole House shares the concern that the noble Baroness has expressed abou...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 782 c538 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer, raised the issue of whistleblowing in her contribution...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 cc538-540 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for allowing us to debate this important issue. Whi...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 782 c540 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the Minister that the office is not the right way forward, but is she saying that ev...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c540 (Link to this contribution)

I am saying that the Government looked at this in 2014, certainly in terms of the financial incen...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 782 c540 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to come back on this, but I take it that the Government do not think that anything fur...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 782 c540 (Link to this contribution)

The Government are never complacent in any area of law they introduce; I would never say that eve...

Baroness Kramer | 782 cc540-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, obviously I am going to withdraw the amendment, but I want first to make a couple of po...

Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 782 c541 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Vere of Norbiton

80: Clause 13, page 43, line 42, at end insert—

Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 782 cc541-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now come to two proposed changes that the Government are seeking to make to the seiz...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 782 c542 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to support these amendments, which are both sensible and proportionate. Ensuring that ...

Lord Stevens of Kirkwhelpington | 782 c542 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also support this group of amendments. I declare an interest as my son is the head of...

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Criminal Finances Bill 2016-17

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