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Technical and Further Education Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 27 March 2017, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Nash and Baroness Vere of Norbiton.
Lords report stage. Part 1 of 2.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
782 cc359-428 
Session
2016-17
Legislative stage
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Technical and Further Education Bill 2016-17. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 1 March 2017
Bills
House of Lords
Technical and Further Education Bill
Monday, 27 March 2017
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 c359 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Watson of Invergowrie

1: After Clause 1, insert the following new Claus...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 cc359-362 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the absence of noble Lords who have business other than the Technical and Further Ed...


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Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 782 cc361-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment. The Bill has cross-party support; it is potentially the greate...

Baroness Wolf of Dulwich | 782 cc363-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also support the amendment and share its concern for the small but important group of...

Lord Storey | 782 cc364-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 14 and to Amendment 16, which is linked to that, and will say...

Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 782 c365 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 16, to which I have added my name. It is very clear that many young...

Lord Aberdare | 782 cc365-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too will speak mainly on Amendment 16, spoken to by my noble friend Lady Wolf, althou...

Baroness Pidding | 782 cc367-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, noble Lords may remember that I spoke some weeks ago on this Bill at Second Reading and...

Lord Nash | 782 c368 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased to be able today to speak about this legislation, which will help lay...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 c368 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the Minister is going to respond to the point I made about apprenticeship pay. A...

Lord Nash | 782 cc368-372 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has raised that before. As we discussed at that time, it is illegal to pay below t...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 cc372-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response and all noble Lords who have participated in this...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 c373 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Watson of Invergowrie

2: After Clause 1, insert the following new Claus...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 cc377-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, again, this is an issue that we considered in Committee. Indeed, it was also discussed ...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 cc378-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 21 in this group, which is in my name and those of my noble f...

Baroness Morris of Yardley | 782 cc379-380 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments. They are very reasonable and it is difficult to find too ma...

Lord Lucas | 782 c380 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I entirely agree with what the noble Baroness, Lady Morris of Yardley, has just said. A...

Lord Baker of Dorking | 782 cc380-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have not had very much information about what the annual statement from the Institut...

Lord Nash | 782 cc381-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords and the noble Baroness for the amendments on reporting...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 cc384-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his comprehensive reply—almost half the debate on this group of amendmen...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 782 c385 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

4: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clau...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 782 cc385-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 4, I shall also speak to Amendments 7 and 19 in my name. Amendments...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 c388 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Young of Norwood Green for submitting these amendments. I ...

Lord Lucas | 782 cc388-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would certainly like an apprentice who is having a hard time getting what they

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Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 782 cc389-391 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Young and Lord Watson, for tabling this group of...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 782 c390 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome a lot of what the Minister has been saying, but is that formal signing process taking p...

Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 782 c390 (Link to this contribution)

Unfortunately, I am unable to clarify that at the moment, but I will write to the noble Lord. I w...

Lord Lucas | 782 c390 (Link to this contribution)

Can my noble friend say whether the apprenticeship documents that an apprentice receives include ...

Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 782 c390 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I am unable to confirm that, but I will write to my noble friend. If not, I think perhaps ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 782 cc390-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her comments. A number of them seem extremely helpful. I am ap...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 782 c392 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

5: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clau...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 782 cc392-4 (Link to this contribution)

This is another area about which we have had a significant amount of dialogue with the Government...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c394 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Young, has tempted me, because I, too, bear the scars of the diploma, GNVQ a...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 c394 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Young for moving this amendment, which I am happy to suppo...

Lord Nash | 782 cc394-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Watson and Lord Young, for tabling this amendmen...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 782 c395 (Link to this contribution)

I listened carefully to what the Minister said but am not sure that it entirely dealt with the tr...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c395 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Garden of Frognal

6: After Clause 1, insert the following new Claus...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c396 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 6 is in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Storey. I will also speak to...

Lord Lucas | 782 cc396-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my support to the amendments in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Garden. If I...

Baroness Wolf of Dulwich | 782 cc397-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rarely disagree with the noble Baroness, Lady Garden, on technical education, where I...

Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 782 cc398-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to debate the amendments in this group. I thank all noble Lor...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 782 c399 (Link to this contribution)

I would like some clarification. The Minister said that the Sainsbury panel identified low-skille...

Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 782 cc399-400 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for his intervention. I think it is unhelpful to try to put things into th...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 cc400-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her reply. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, for raising the matter of...

Lord Baker of Dorking | 782 c401 (Link to this contribution)

I warmly support what the noble Baroness is saying. It is not only lower-level qualifications; th...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c401 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Baker, for his comments. I am pleased that I am not the only one who...

Lord Lucas | 782 c401 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lucas

8: Clause 2, page 2, line 14, after “providers” insert “, or pers...

Lord Lucas | 782 c401 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 9. These amendments are very simple. They pick up on my...

Lord Storey | 782 c402 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 17 is in my name and those of the noble Lord, Lord Watson, and my noble friend Lady Gar...

Lord Aberdare | 782 cc402-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 17 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Storey. It is widely recogni...

Lord Baker of Dorking | 782 cc403-4 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lord Lucas’s amendments are an addition to the clause that I introduced in Commit...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 c404 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with Amendment 17, I am in the slightly alarming position of being the meat in a Libera...

Baroness Morris of Yardley | 782 cc404-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to ask a question that has just come to mind, mainly because I tabled a si...

Earl of Kinnoull | 782 c405 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to speak on Amendment 17, but I was on the Social Mobility Select Co...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 782 cc405-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if you want to change attitudes in schools and colleges, one of the most powerful influ...

Lord Nash | 782 cc406-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for tabling the amendments, which relate to careers. I have to say ...

Lord Lucas | 782 c407 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend for his short CPD session, which I hope I shall m...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 782 c407 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

10: Clause 24, page 12, line 19, leave out “(if ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 782 cc407-9 (Link to this contribution)

I can be very brief. I am delighted to be able to say that, because the procedures followed on th...

Lord Nash | 782 c409 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for these amendments. I have made it clear that our priority in introduci...

Baroness Wolf of Dulwich | 782 c409 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Baroness Wolf of Dulwich

16: After Clause 35, insert the following new Clau...

Baroness Wolf of Dulwich | 782 c409 (Link to this contribution)

I note that the Minister did not reply to my amendment in his response, and I hope we can have fu...

Lord Storey | 782 c409 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Storey

17: After Clause 40, insert the following new Clause—

“Fur...

Lord Storey | 782 c409 (Link to this contribution)

I listened carefully to the Minister’s reply, for which I am grateful, but I do not think he went...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 782 c409 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

18: Before Clause 41, insert the following new Clau...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 782 c409 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we had a very interesting debate in Committee about the role of clerks in FE institutio...

Lord Nash | 782 cc409-415 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to continue our discussion in Committee, about the importance...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 782 c415 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the Minister mentioned the ETF, I remind the House of my declaration that my wife is...

Lord Lucas | 782 c415 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lucas

22: Schedule 1, page 26, line 4, at end insert—

“( ) The gr...

Lord Lucas | 782 cc415-6 (Link to this contribution)

There has been a problem with apprenticeships, at least historically, where people have wanted to...

Lord Baker of Dorking | 782 c416 (Link to this contribution)

I support my noble friend’s amendment. I suspect that individual apprentices will work on the bas...

Lord Nash | 782 cc416-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Lucas for this amendment, the effect of which wou...

Lord Lucas | 782 c417 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am mostly comforted by my noble friend’s reference to employer-led matters. If that i...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c417 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Garden of Frognal

23: Schedule 1, page 27, line 14, at end insert “...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 cc417-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 23 in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Storey. The Gove...

Lord Nash | 782 c418 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to discuss Amendment 23, tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady G...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c418 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. He said that the same people will be testing and as...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c419 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Garden of Frognal

24: Schedule 1, page 28, line 37, leave out “the ...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 cc419-420 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will also speak to Amendments 26 and 29 to 33, which are in my name and those of the ...

Lord Lucas | 782 cc420-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I completely support the amendment in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Garden. I do...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 782 cc421-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to say a few words about this group. My name appears on seven of the nine amendm...

Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 782 cc423-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness and the noble Lords for tabling these amendments. I...

Lord Lucas | 782 c425 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for what my noble friend said on my amendments, but to turn to the main group, wher...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c425 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, thank the Minister for her full reply on all this, but I am left as confused as...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 782 c425 (Link to this contribution)

Can we be clear that this can be brought back at Third Reading and that we can have a debate on p...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c425 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. It will definitely come back at Third Reading.

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 782 c425 (Link to this contribution)

There is no guarantee at all because the clerks are tight about what they will allow. The Governm...

Lord Nash | 782 c425 (Link to this contribution)

I should make it clear that if the noble Baroness and the noble Lord wish to test the temperature...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 782 c425 (Link to this contribution)

We were hoping that we could have a dialogue about this because these matters are key to the succ...

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