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Digital Economy Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 20 March 2017, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Ashton of Hyde.
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2016-17
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eleventh report.
Tuesday, 20 December 2016
Parliamentary committees
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee thirteenth report.
Wednesday, 11 January 2017
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee sixteenth report.
Wednesday, 1 February 2017
Parliamentary committees
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Digital Economy Bill 2016-17. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 8 February 2017
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eighteenth report.
Wednesday, 22 February 2017
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Digital Economy Bill
Monday, 20 March 2017
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Deposited Paper DEP2017-0299
Monday, 3 April 2017
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c12 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25B: Clause 15, page 18, line 7, leave out subsection (1...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 cc12-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now move in this wide-ranging Bill from the esoteric delights of the universal servi...


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Baroness Butler-Sloss | 782 cc13-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was wondering which of us would go first, so I apologise to the House for being a lit...

Baroness Benjamin | 782 c15 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased to hear the Minister say that the remit of the IWF is to be extended ...

Bishop of Leeds | 782 c15 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it seems odd in a society such as ours that we are even thinking about how to give acce...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 782 cc15-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke on the subject of prohibited material in Committee and I rise to do so again. I...

Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 782 c17 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I make the same point I made in Committee, which is that offline and online should be a...

Lord McColl of Dulwich | 782 cc17-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support Amendment 25YD. I find myself very surprised by Amendments 25H, 25W a...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 782 cc19-22 (Link to this contribution)

I support Amendment 25YD in the name of my noble and learned friend, to which she spoke so well e...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 782 cc22-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name has been mentioned in connection with something that I said on this issue. I ha...

Baroness Kidron | 782 c23 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I find myself very much in the same school as the right reverend Prelate in not underst...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c23 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, would it help the noble Baroness if I mentioned that later in the debate we will be tal...

Baroness Kidron | 782 c23 (Link to this contribution)

It certainly would. I beg the Minister’s pardon.

Lord Farmer | 782 cc23-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak in support of Amendment 25YD, tabled in the name of the noble and learn...

Earl of Erroll | 782 cc25-6 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Farmer, is right about the huge dangers in viewing much of this pornography ...

Lord Elton | 782 cc26-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot support the noble Earl. I follow most of his argument, but when we are conside...

Lord Browne of Belmont | 782 cc27-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 25YD. In Committee I set out in detail all the reasons why I though...

Earl of Listowel | 782 c28 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I offer my strongest support to my noble and learned friend Lady Butler-Sloss in her Am...

Lord Morrow | 782 cc28-32 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 25YD in the name of the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Slo...

Bishop of Chester | 782 c32 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know we want to get to the Front-Bench speakers so I shall be very brief and, like th...

Lord Framlingham | 782 cc32-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, shall be extremely brief because this matter has now been dealt with in great d...

Lord Paddick | 782 c33 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the debate this afternoon shows the importance of noble Lords participating in every st...

Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 782 c33 (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Lord produce a shred of evidence to say that this definition has fallen into disrep...

Lord Paddick | 782 c33 (Link to this contribution)

I will try to say it again more clearly. It is the fact that the Crown Prosecution Service is not...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 782 c33 (Link to this contribution)

Why cannot the CPS just change its guidance?

Lord Paddick | 782 cc33-4 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. What the Minister said backed up what the noble Lord, Lord Browne of Belmont, said about ...

Lord Farmer | 782 c34 (Link to this contribution)

I made the point about the medical ramifications of certain practices. That is the point I was ma...

Lord Paddick | 782 c34 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me if I misunderstood the noble Lord. I thought he was using that as an argument for why ...

Earl of Erroll | 782 c34 (Link to this contribution)

This may assist the noble Lord and the rest of the House—

Baroness Buscombe | 782 c34 (Link to this contribution)

I remind noble Lords that this is Report.

Earl of Erroll | 782 c34 (Link to this contribution)

Very quickly, for clarification, the problem is that some material is regulated by ATVOD, some by...

Lord Paddick | 782 cc34-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the noble Earl’s intervention, but for clarity I will stick to what I was sayin...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 cc35-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for introducing his amendments today. I am also grateful ...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 cc37-40 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a wide-ranging debate and I find myself in a slightly uncomfortable posit...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 782 c40 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Paddick, said that the definition of prohibited material had become somewhat...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c40 (Link to this contribution)

It should not really be me answering that.

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c40 (Link to this contribution)

The reason is that the CPS decides whether to prosecute on offences as it sees them. It has guida...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c41 (Link to this contribution)

The reason it does not is because it has discretion in individual cases. Sometimes it thinks it i...

Lord Paddick | 782 c41 (Link to this contribution)

The noble and learned Lord asked a good question. My understanding is that the definition of proh...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c41 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25C: Clause 15, page 18, line 11, leave out subsection (...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 cc41-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these government amendments are primarily designed to address the concerns of the Deleg...

Lord Paddick | 782 c43 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones and I have Amendment 25N in this group. It is a prob...

Earl of Erroll | 782 c43 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to comment on Amendment 25D and to thank the Government for proposing new subsec...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 cc43-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for explaining the thinking behind these many amendments....

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c45 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 25N in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, seeks to remove the word “su...

Lord Framlingham | 782 c45 (Link to this contribution)

I hope I am right. I think Amendment 25N is in the next group.

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c45 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, that has rather thrown me. I was saying that I was surprised by the noble Baroness. W...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 c46 (Link to this contribution)

I specifically asked about the ability to impose fines and so on. That appears to be under a nega...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c46 (Link to this contribution)

We have not designated the financial regulator. We will have to do that. I will check if it is un...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c46 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25D: Clause 15, page 18, line 16, at end insert—

“...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c47 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25G: Clause 16, page 18, line 38, before “means” insert ...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 c47 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

25J: Clause 17, page 19, line 47, leave out “ma...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 cc47-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 25J I shall speak also to Amendments 25K and 25P. They tackle three...

Lord Paddick | 782 cc48-50 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shared some of the concerns that the noble Baroness has just articulated about the ro...

Earl of Erroll | 782 c50 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an important point. Without enforcement, nothing will work. If you do not enfor...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 cc50-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to everyone who has spoken in this brief debate. The introduction of a ne...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 cc52-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords who contributed to the debate. Of course I accept that...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c53 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25L: Clause 17, page 19, line 48, leave out “this Part” ...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c53 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25M: Clause 17, page 20, line 8, leave out from “that” t...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 cc53-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

25P: Clause 17, page 20, line 27, at end insert...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 c54 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the reasons that I have just outlined, I wish to test the opinion of the House on t...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c57 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25Q: Clause 18, page 20, line 29, leave out subsection (...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c57 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25T: Clause 21, page 23, line 24, at end insert—

“...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c57 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25U: Clause 22, page 23, line 44, leave out “prohibited”...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c58 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25YC: After Clause 22, insert the following new Clause—<...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 782 cc58-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Butler-Sloss

25YD: After Clause 22, insert the following new Clause...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 782 cc59-60 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall make a few points, although this was discussed in rather greater detail a littl...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c62 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25YE: Clause 23, page 25, line 6, leave out “prohibited”...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 cc62-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

25YM: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—<...

Lord Paddick | 782 cc63-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

25YN: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Lord Paddick | 782 cc64-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 25YN is in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones. This is a ...

Earl of Erroll | 782 c65 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will say a few words on this very quickly. I thoroughly approve of the premise of the...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 cc65-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I echo many of the concerns raised by the noble Lord, Lord Paddick. We added our name t...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 cc66-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, and the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, and I thank t...

Baroness Thornton | 782 c68 (Link to this contribution)

Could I invite the Minister to be slightly less gentle with those supporting this amendment by sa...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 c68 (Link to this contribution)

I had not thought of that. I am absolutely sure that that was not the intention. However, in the ...

Lord Paddick | 782 c68 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank in particular the noble Earl, Lord Erroll, for his support on this amendment an...

Baroness Buscombe | 782 c68 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Buscombe

25YP: Clause 25, page 27, line 7, leave out “prohibited” a...

Baroness Buscombe | 782 cc68-71 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Buscombe

25YQ: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 cc71-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

25YR: After Clause 26, insert the following new...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 cc72-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 25YR and support Amendment 33A in this group.

Our amendme...

Baroness Janke | 782 cc73-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 25YR and will speak to Amendment 33A, which is in my name. We certa...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 782 cc74-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very happy to support the amendment—to which I have added my name—which would brin...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 782 cc75-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I supports the amendment proposed by the noble Baronesses, Lady Jones and Lady Janke, b...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 782 cc76-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all contributors on this important subject. We take the harm caused by...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 cc78-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. We support and agree with many of the initiatives that h...

Baroness Buscombe | 782 c79 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Buscombe

25YS: Clause 27, page 28, line 19, at end insert—

““...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 c79 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

25YW: After Clause 27, insert the following new...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 782 c79 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not intend to reopen the debate but we were not reassured by what the Minister had...

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