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European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill

Lords committee stage second day. Amendment 9B to clause 1 agreed to on division (358 votes to 256). Clause 1 agreed to as amended. Clause 2 agreed to. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 108).
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2016-17
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Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 779 c814 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

9B: Clause 1, page 1, line 3, at end insert—...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 779 cc814-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a particular pleasure for me on St David’s Day to be opening this session on the ...


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Viscount Hailsham | 779 cc816-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in supporting this group of new clauses and amendments, I shall vote for any one of the...

Baroness Ludford | 779 cc817-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in supporting Amendment 9B I shall speak also to Amendments 25 and 41. It is a pleasure...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c819 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, but I do not know what evidence she has ...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c819 (Link to this contribution)

There are murmurs from the Benches opposite, but there are no new facts in this debate. This is a...

Lord Richard | 779 c819 (Link to this contribution)

A slight thought went through my mind as the noble Lord told us what will happen in the House of ...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c819 (Link to this contribution)

There are many occasions when this House can bring forward new arguments and a fresh perspective ...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 779 c820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the issue of new facts, does the noble Lord agree that one new fact is the communica...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c820 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure many of those groups made their views known when the matter was debated in the other pl...

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 779 c820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, during this debate, which may be lengthy, it would be helpful for those of us sitting l...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think I ever referred to the Opposition raising objections. The noble Baroness...

Lord Cormack | 779 c820 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely endorse what my noble friend said when he replied to the last interjection. However, h...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we could but the Government decided not to. I wish we would. I would like the Governmen...

Lord Winston | 779 c820 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Howard, has made one major assertion repeatedly: he kept saying that there a...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c821 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the debate in the other place was very recent. That fact, along with the others, was we...

Lord Bragg | 779 c821 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, 3 million foreign nationals in a population of about 65 million represents a minority. ...

Countess of Mar | 779 c821 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord but he seems to be launching into a Second Readi...

Lord Bragg | 779 cc821-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Countess. I have a short speech—about as third as long as the previous speech—a...

Baroness Goldie | 779 c822 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we shall hear next from the most reverend Primate.

Archbishop of York | 779 cc822-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Uganda was referred to by the noble Viscount, Lord Hailsham. It was regrettable that Id...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 779 c823 (Link to this contribution)

Does the most reverend Primate not understand the moral obligation on this Government? These peop...

Archbishop of York | 779 cc823-4 (Link to this contribution)

I never want to see any human person used as a bargaining chip. They are made in God’s likeness a...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 779 cc824-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 9B, which is in my name as well as those of the other three noble L...

Lord Wigley | 779 cc825-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 9B, which overlaps with other amendments, including Amendment 37 in...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 779 cc826-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, what faces us today is an extremely serious issue, and I want to put before your Lordsh...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 779 c827 (Link to this contribution)

What is the argument against a unilateral gesture on the part of this Government, generating good...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 779 c827 (Link to this contribution)

A unilateral declaration of that kind is not treating fairly all the people who are affected by t...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 779 c827 (Link to this contribution)

I respectfully point out to the noble and learned Lord and to the noble Lord, Lord Howard, that L...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 779 c827 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not regard myself as bound by remarks made by Dr Liam Fox anywhere. I have been gi...

Lord Oates | 779 cc827-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 16A and 38 and I also support Amendment 9B. Whether or not o...

Lord Spicer | 779 c829 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, even if you are a Liberal Democrat you cannot have it both ways. You either give priori...

Lord Oates | 779 c829 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the noble Lord will forgive me but if he listens to my argument he will understand the an...

Viscount Ridley | 779 c829 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord talks about fear and anxiety but does he agree that what we have heard this aftern...

Lord Oates | 779 cc829-830 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, no, I do not agree with the noble Viscount for one moment. These are fears expressed to...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c830 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we need to try to organise this debate so that we hear all sides of the argument. I hop...

Lord Tebbit | 779 cc830-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in a manner which has not been followed by anybody else in the House today, I should de...

Lord Tebbit | 779 c831 (Link to this contribution)

Then perhaps he will do us the kindness of addressing us, because it is an almost unique experien...

Lord Tebbit | 779 c831 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, people of nationalities of other countries within the Union are foreigners.

Lord Cashman | 779 c831 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord develop the argument about protecting the rights of UK citizens a little furt...

Lord Tebbit | 779 c831 (Link to this contribution)

That is exactly what the Prime Minister has said: we will look for an equitable solution. That me...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 779 c831 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I point out to the noble Lord that the amendment is structured as it is because we are ...

Lord Tebbit | 779 c831 (Link to this contribution)

Of course we do not have the power to look after our citizens overseas—not in these days when we ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c832 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry. It is the turn of the Labour Party. I suggest we hear from the noble Baroness, Lady K...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 779 cc832-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment. I also have my name on Amendment 16A with the noble Lord, Lor...

Lord Bowness | 779 cc833-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I did not participate at Second Reading because I could not be present for the closing ...

Viscount Waverley | 779 cc835-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, emotions understandably run high on this issue, both here and on the continent. As a lo...

Baroness Hamwee | 779 cc837-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have tabled Amendment 25 on behalf of the Joint Committee on Human Rights, of which I...

Lord Kerslake | 779 cc838-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak in support of Amendment 25, to which I have added my name, and in gener...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c839 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think it would be appropriate to have my noble friend Lord Lawson and then hear from ...

Lord Lawson of Blaby | 779 cc839-840 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I assure your Lordships that I will be very brief indeed. I shall start by declaring an...

Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean | 779 cc840-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have put on one side the remarks that I was going to make because I want to concentra...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 779 cc841-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have the misfortune to disagree with the conclusions reached by the noble and learned...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 779 c842 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord just made the point that he would rather have this amendment on the statute. I do ...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 779 c842 (Link to this contribution)

Just as Brexit means Brexit, legally resident means legally resident.

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 779 c842 (Link to this contribution)

We might have to take the expert opinion of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern,...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 779 c842 (Link to this contribution)

No doubt the noble Lord will try and intervene at another stage, given his characteristically gen...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c843 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have suggested that we hear from the noble Lord, Lord Green. We will have a chance to...

Lord Green of Deddington | 779 cc843-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to my Amendment 40 and comment on Amendment 9B, which is the main focus, o...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c844 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is in fact the turn of the Conservatives.

Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate | 779 cc844-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not able to be present at Second Reading, although I have—like, I am sure, other ...

Lord Clark of Windermere | 779 cc845-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 9B and shall speak to my own Amendment 42. Amendment 42 is very lim...

Lord Green of Deddington | 779 c846 (Link to this contribution)

May I clarify what I said? Eighty-five per cent of EU migrants in the UK will have completed five...

Lord Clark of Windermere | 779 c846 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful for that intervention and I am sure that the Minister will be as well.

I...

Archbishop of York | 779 c846 (Link to this contribution)

It would be quite invidious to suggest that those of us who are sticking to the rules in relation...

Lord Clark of Windermere | 779 c846 (Link to this contribution)

The point really is that we then move from the practical to the moral. Some of us take the belief...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c847 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I believe the Lib Dems still want to make a contribution. Let us hear from the noble Ba...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 779 c847 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be brief. It has been a long debate, but this issue has exercised your Lordship...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 779 c847 (Link to this contribution)

I normally have the greatest respect for the noble Baroness’s diligence, but she is wrong to say ...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 779 c848 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have heard much about the issue of EU nationals being a priority, but, as the noble ...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 779 c848 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with what the noble Baroness said at the end of her speech. As the no...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c848 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is the Conservative Party’s turn. The noble Lord, Lord Blencathra.

Lord Blencathra | 779 c848 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, will be brief. When I was supporting Vote Leave, I, like many others, took the ...

Lord Cormack | 779 c849 (Link to this contribution)

Would my noble friend not recognise that we are the ones walking out of the EU? We are the ones w...

Lord Blencathra | 779 c849 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, my Lords, but we also owe an obligation to almost 1 million British citizens living in the E...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c849 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear the desire of some Members of the House to have Front-Bench speakers. However, i...

Lord Woolf | 779 c849 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be extremely brief. After such an extensive debate, there is just one aspect tha...

Lord Strathclyde | 779 c850 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, much has been said this afternoon surrounding the whole issue of uncertainty. But the r...

Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 779 c850 (Link to this contribution)

I am one of those who lives in France, and I must therefore declare an interest. Perhaps the nobl...

Lord Strathclyde | 779 c850 (Link to this contribution)

I heard the noble Lord, Lord Hannay, loud and clear. What I suggest is: can we believe that these...

Lord Bilimoria | 779 c850 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for giving way. He said that we should trust the British Government; the H...

Lord Strathclyde | 779 c850 (Link to this contribution)

Very simply—the law can be changed only with the agreement of Parliament. That is why these amend...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 779 c851 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had a very good debate here tonight—

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c851 (Link to this contribution)

I think the mood of the House is to carry on and to hear from the Front Bench.

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c851 (Link to this contribution)

There is no constitutional crisis; there is good order in this House and I hope that the noble Lo...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 779 cc851-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the status of EU nationals living here and UK nationals living in the EU is, as this de...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 779 cc853-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been one of the highlights of one’s life in the House to hear this debate. I alw...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 779 c854 (Link to this contribution)

I think my noble friend would probably testify that assurances are not enough. We want this on th...

Lord Teverson | 779 c854 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Teverson

11: Clause 1, page 1, line 5, at end insert—

“( ) Sectio...

Lord Teverson | 779 cc854-861 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will reduce the temperature of the House a little during this debate, but I perhaps I...

Lord Hunt of Chesterton | 779 cc860-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment and I support the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, who is an expert ...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 779 cc862-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a supporter of nuclear power and I would like to facilitate nuclear energy in any ...

Lord Krebs | 779 c863 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I refer to a report of the Science and Technology Select Committee from a few years ago...

Earl of Selborne | 779 cc863-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was lucky enough to serve on the Select Committee under the chairmanship of the noble...

Lord Hutton of Furness | 779 cc864-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall say a few brief words in support of the amendment that the noble Lord, Lord Tev...

Lord Inglewood | 779 c865 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to add a few words to what has already been said about the Euratom treaty and it...

Lord Fox | 779 c867 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too, have the pleasure of serving on the Science and Technology Select Committee unde...

Lord Rees of Ludlow | 779 c868 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment. As a former member of the Science and Technology Select Commi...

Lord Warner | 779 c868 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support these amendments and associate myself with the comments of the noble Lo...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 779 c869 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to add three points. I have a non-remunerated interest as patron of Trade ...

Lord Hunt of Chesterton | 779 c869 (Link to this contribution)

That was not said about the Labour Party: it was said about a certain person in the Labour Party....

Lord Lea of Crondall | 779 c869 (Link to this contribution)

That was a cheap point from my noble friend. The Labour Party position was criticised and it led ...

Lord Hayward | 779 cc869-870 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will raise a brief point in relation to Culham, to which there has been reference. I ...

Lord Wigley | 779 c870 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 11, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Teverson. Amendment 23, to which ...

Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted | 779 cc870-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am in favour of this group of amendments. Amendment 39, in my name, follows the posit...

Lord Liddle | 779 cc872-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments. As a member of Cumbria County Council I have an obvious int...

Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 779 c873 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the nuclear industry has been widely mentioned this evening and I should briefly point ...

Lord Redesdale | 779 c873 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, from these Benches, I was the Lib Dem spokesman on energy for 10 years and was often th...

Lord Bradshaw | 779 cc873-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I live in the shadow of Culham. Like the noble Lord, Lord Hayward, I am well aware of t...

Lord Oxburgh | 779 c874 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, by now the Minister will probably have got the message that this House thinks Euratom i...

Lord Stern of Brentford | 779 cc874-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have heard very clear and convincing arguments about the future of Euratom. They are...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 779 cc875-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think I need to declare a particular interest. I happen to be married to a phy...

Lord Keen of Elie | 779 cc876-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when one lawyer comes face to face with many scientists and nuclear experts and the iss...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 779 c877 (Link to this contribution)

On the point, often made, that X, Y or Z is not what people voted for in the referendum, did peop...

Lord Keen of Elie | 779 cc877-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am most obliged to the noble Lord for his second sight, because I was about to address that ver...

Lord Hutton of Furness | 779 c878 (Link to this contribution)

I really did not want to interrupt the Minister; he has been very candid and helpful. Is it the G...

Lord Keen of Elie | 779 cc878-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is not at present, as I understand it, our determined intention to seek associate member statu...

Lord Hutton of Furness | 779 c879 (Link to this contribution)

But the only way that non-EU members of Euratom have been able to contribute and participate in t...

Lord Keen of Elie | 779 c879 (Link to this contribution)

I fully appreciate the noble Lord’s point. That is why we will engage with Euratom and its member...

Lord Redesdale | 779 c879 (Link to this contribution)

If you look at Energy UK, which gives it by the half-hour, it is about 17% at the moment, but it ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 779 cc879-880 (Link to this contribution)

I am most obliged for that clarification. It will elide the need for me to write any letters.

...
Lord Oxburgh | 779 c880 (Link to this contribution)

Twice in his speech, the Minister has commented that the UK was an international leader or a worl...

Lord Keen of Elie | 779 c880 (Link to this contribution)

I am most obliged to the noble Lord, because it gives me the opportunity to refine the statement ...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 779 c880 (Link to this contribution)

I should say that I am also a member of the Science and Technology Committee, which is looking at...

Lord Keen of Elie | 779 c880 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Baroness. This Government are never caught on the hop.

Lord Teverson | 779 cc880-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank everybody for their contribution to this extended meeting of the Science and Te...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 779 c881 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb

12: Clause 1, page 1, line 5, at end insert—

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 779 cc881-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 12 is about transitional arrangements. It would require the Government to set...

Lord Wigley | 779 cc882-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have my name down in support of Amendment 16, which the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, j...

Baroness Drake | 779 cc883-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 33 is in my name. Many women voted in the referendum but few will have done s...

Lord Bruce of Bennachie | 779 c886 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to the amendment in my name and that of my noble and learned friend Lord Wallac...

Baroness Northover | 779 cc886-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to the last amendment in the group—in fact the last amendment on the order...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 779 cc887-891 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 20, in the names of my noble friends Lady Hayter and Lord ...

Lord Balfe | 779 cc891-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a former Member of the European Parliament and all sorts of ot...

Lord De Mauley | 779 c893 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend. Is he going to address the amendments?

Lord Balfe | 779 c893 (Link to this contribution)

I take the amendments as being about our negotiating stance and, as such, I consider that I am ad...

Lord Balfe | 779 c893 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you very much. I ask noble Lords to understand that we are talking about the future of huma...

Lord Bilimoria | 779 cc893-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Balfe: we are talking about people. The greatest issu...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 779 cc894-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much support what the noble Lord just said, but I am speaking in support of Amen...

Baroness Burt of Solihull | 779 cc895-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak very briefly to Amendment 16 in my name and that of others and support al...

Baroness Crawley | 779 c896 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments. I particularly support my noble friend Lady Drake’s compell...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 779 cc896-8 (Link to this contribution)

This has been a wide-ranging debate. I put my name to Amendment 34. The fishing industry is impor...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 779 c898 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that the view of the Committee is probably that we should continue and that I s...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c898 (Link to this contribution)

I think that there is a consensus that we should allow the Minister to address the Committee.

...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 779 c898 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord and I call on the Minister to speak.

Lord Bridges of Headley | 779 cc898-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have discussed a veritable cornucopia of issues over the past hour and five minutes....

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 779 c899 (Link to this contribution)

The point that I was making was that they are not in the list of priorities. They may feature dow...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 779 cc899-900 (Link to this contribution)

The rights of consumers are very high in our minds. My noble friend Lord Balfe made an eloquent a...

Baroness Drake | 779 c900 (Link to this contribution)

The hour is late but this is an important point. I have chapter 7 of the White Paper in front of ...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 779 cc900-2 (Link to this contribution)

I totally understand the noble Baroness’s concern and interest in this issue. I will pick my word...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 779 c902 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. It has been an interesting debate, ranging widely f...

Lord Pannick | 779 c902 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Pannick

17: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

“Par...

Lord Pannick | 779 c903 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 17 is in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, and the noble ...

Lord Spicer | 779 c903 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am going to be very brief, because I have forgotten most of what I wanted to say. Thi...

Lord Pannick | 779 c903 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but the noble Lord is suggesting that I am bringing forward this amendment for some u...

Lord Spicer | 779 c904 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I trust the noble Lord, but what he is doing is slowing down a process that we should g...

Viscount Hailsham | 779 c904 (Link to this contribution)

The purpose of the new clause that we are discussing is simply to ensure proper parliamentary con...

Lord Spicer | 779 c904 (Link to this contribution)

I personally agree totally with anything that increases the sovereignty of parliament. I only mak...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 779 c904 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure what is in the noble Lord’s mind. If he just tries reading the treaty, he will see ...

Lord Spicer | 779 c904 (Link to this contribution)

I am also sure that the European court would have found a way into this at some point. I have no ...

Lord Wigley | 779 cc904-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 17, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, which is linked to Amend...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c905 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I oppose this amendment on grounds that are rather different from those advanced by my ...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 779 c905 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder if the noble Lord is familiar with Article 50, where it is clear that if no agreement is...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 cc905-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is hardly a fantasy if the negotiations are brought to an end speedily, as we all hope they wi...

Lord Tyler | 779 c906 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that the noble Lords has followed the process of the Constitutional Reform and Gov...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c906 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that it is the noble Lord who misunderstands the position. I am not disputing the rol...

Lord Pannick | 779 c906 (Link to this contribution)

If all this is unnecessary, why was the Prime Minister asked for, and why did she give, a specifi...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c906 (Link to this contribution)

I think that I have already answered that question. I quite accept, as I said to the noble Lord, ...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 779 c906 (Link to this contribution)

Has the noble Lord given proper consideration to a circumstance in which the Prime Minister and t...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 779 c906 (Link to this contribution)

Well, for all the reasons that I have given. I do not want to repeat my speech to the noble Lord....

Lord Oates | 779 c907 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 17. Given the late hour and the clarity of the points made by the n...

Lord De Mauley | 779 c907 (Link to this contribution)

If what the noble Lord, Lord Kerr, said earlier is correct, and I think it is, how does subsectio...

Lord Oates | 779 c907 (Link to this contribution)

I am not quite clear to which point made by the noble Lord, Lord Kerr, the noble Lord is referrin...

Lord De Mauley | 779 c907 (Link to this contribution)

If at the end of the two-year period we are out anyway, what is the impact of the Minister’s deci...

Lord Oates | 779 c907 (Link to this contribution)

The point of subsection (4) is that,

“No Minister … may agree to the termination”,

pr...

Lord Pannick | 779 c907 (Link to this contribution)

The answer to the noble Lord’s question is that surely Parliament should decide, not the Governme...

Lord Oates | 779 c908 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, for his clarity on that matter. In short, the amendment wil...

Lord Faulks | 779 c908 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord will probably remember that at Second Reading the noble Lord, Lord Kerr of Kinloch...

Lord Oates | 779 c908 (Link to this contribution)

No, I would not agree with that. Fascinating as it is for me to comment on what the noble Lord, L...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 779 cc908-910 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I can make my position clear. I think that we have four different attempts to f...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 779 c910 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I was following with great interest his rati...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 779 cc910-1 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely understand the point that the noble Lord is making, but the trouble with subsection (4...

Baroness Goldie | 779 c911 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am aware that we have not heard from the Labour Benches at all in respect of this gro...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 779 cc911-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister and I hope that the noble Lord, Lord Howell, will not mind my stepp...

Lord Howell of Guildford | 779 cc912-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall come at the amendments from a slightly different angle. It seems to me, listeni...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 779 c913 (Link to this contribution)

One of the points made by the Supreme Court is that it is legislation that provides the authority...

Lord Howell of Guildford | 779 c913 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if Parliament voted to bring down the process—the whole confection the Government had w...

Lord Deben | 779 cc914-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is not a debate which will be solved on the basis of this group of amendments. It ...

Lord Trevethin and Oaksey | 779 c915 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that this is not too legalistic an intervention but I wish to seek some clarific...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 779 c915 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 31. I realise that I am feeling a bit fractious, which is probably ...

Lord True | 779 c916 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a slightly different point to make. I do not want to repeat what I said to your ...

Lord True | 779 c916 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Tyler. So it was the other way around—358 to 256—which strengthens m...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 779 c917 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. I wonder whether he has had a word with the Prime Minister, who ...

Lord True | 779 c917 (Link to this contribution)

It may be that the noble Lord has more access to my right honourable friend than I do. My right h...

Lord Tyler | 779 cc917-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have now served in Parliament for over 25 years—roughly half that time in each House....

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 779 cc918-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think we would serve ourselves a little better if we did not focus on this as an issu...

Lord Higgins | 779 cc919-920 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 17 is tremendously important because it seeks to assert that the decisions on...

Lord Lisvane | 779 c920 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that the noble Viscount will be kind enough to allow me to interpose very briefl...

Viscount Hailsham | 779 cc920-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know the hour is late so I will be very short; I will confine myself to making three ...

Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 779 c921 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is very late. We are tired. I do not know about the rest of your Lordships but I cer...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 779 cc921-2 (Link to this contribution)

Noble Lords will be pleased to know that I, too, am not going to repeat the arguments put so succ...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 779 cc922-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an excellent and interesting debate, and I am slightly wary at this late ...

Lord Pannick | 779 c923 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister, although I am disappointed that he did not give the undertaking th...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 779 cc923-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

21: After Clause 1, insert the following new...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 779 cc925-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 21 would underpin the involvement of devolved Administrations in the Brexit p...

Lord Wigley | 779 cc927-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Baroness mentioned, it is still St David’s Day—just. I have my name on Ame...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 779 cc928-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in proposing Amendment 43, I accept totally everything that has been said by the noble ...

Baroness Randerson | 779 cc929-930 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the first point in my notes is to remind your Lordships that today is St David’s Day. T...

Earl of Kinnoull | 779 cc930-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly make three points about Amendment 21. I should say that I am a member of...

Lord Wigley | 779 c931 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. Far be it for me to try to defend the SNP; I have no authority t...

Earl of Kinnoull | 779 c931 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that point but, as we sit here tonight, we have heard a lot of very different v...

Lord Empey | 779 c932 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we might still get the opportunity to wish our Welsh colleagues a very happy St David’s...

Lord Wigley | 779 c932 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that in broad agricultural terms there is a European policy, but the agricultural po...

Lord Empey | 779 c933 (Link to this contribution)

I am not disputing that. We have had agricultural powers in Northern Ireland for even longer, but...

Baroness Ludford | 779 c933 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to add the support of my Front Bench for the amendment and the words written by ...

Earl of Kinnoull | 779 c933 (Link to this contribution)

I was referring to subsection (1) of the proposed new clause, where it says that the arrangements...

Baroness Ludford | 779 c933 (Link to this contribution)

It is agreeing on arrangements. It does not mean that you agree on the outcome. It is agreeing ar...

Lord Keen of Elie | 779 c934 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords who have contributed to this part of the debate. The lateness of the hour doe...

Lord Wigley | 779 c934 (Link to this contribution)

We have heard that there are problems in Northern Ireland and, perhaps, an unwillingness to accep...

Lord Keen of Elie | 779 cc934-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can absolutely assure the noble Lord that we are taking into consideration not only t...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 779 c936 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Lord for his response. My only response is to the noble Earl, Lord ...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 779 cc936-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lea of Crondall

24: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Lea of Crondall | 779 c937 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a Cinderella amendment—it seems to have been difficult to find the right place ...

Lord Berkeley | 779 cc937-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be as quick as I possibly can in supporting my noble friend’s amendment. As my ...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 779 c939 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, very briefly at this late hour, I want to say how grateful we are to the noble Lord, Lo...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 779 c939 (Link to this contribution)

Good morning, my Lords. I am grateful for the opportunity to speak to this amendment again, as I ...

Lord Berkeley | 779 c939 (Link to this contribution)

The White Paper has only seven lines addressed to agencies.

Lord Bridges of Headley | 779 cc939-940 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely concede that point. Forgive me: I have obviously not expressed myself well at this ear...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 779 c940 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, but I hope that he will reflect on one point. It is not the case that the...

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