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Policing and Crime Bill

Lords report stage third day. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 84).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
777 cc1008-1104 
Session
2016-17
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee third report.
Wednesday, 6 July 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee fourth report.
Friday, 9 September 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Legislative scrutiny: (1) Children and Social Work Bill; (2) Policing and Crime Bill; (3) Cultural Property (Armed Conflicts) Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee third report.
Wednesday, 12 October 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Policing and Crime Bill 2015-16 to 2016-17. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 16 November 2016
Bills
House of Lords

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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eighth report.
Wednesday, 30 November 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Policing and Crime Bill 2015-16 to 2016-17. As amended on Report.
Monday, 12 December 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0974
Tuesday, 20 December 2016
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hamwee | 777 c1009 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

179A: Clause 144, page 161, line 22, after “constable” inser...

Baroness Hamwee | 777 cc1009-1010 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I often feel when I have the first amendment after Questions that I should explain to M...


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Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 777 cc1011-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on looking at Amendment 179A and Amendment 179B in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Pa...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc1012-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we have heard, this group of amendments relates to the provisions in Clauses 144 and...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 777 c1014 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, will she address the point I made earlier about page 163 where “re...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c1014 (Link to this contribution)

I will write to the noble Lord to clarify that point.

Baroness Hamwee | 777 c1014 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy. When the noble Baroness writes, perhaps ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c1014 (Link to this contribution)

I think that is still under discussion at the moment with various authorities.

Baroness Hamwee | 777 c1014 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we will see, but I am glad to note the Home Office’s acceptance of the importance of th...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1015 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

180: Clause 145, page 162, line 41, leave out ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1015 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

181: After Clause 145, insert the following ne...

Lord Lexden | 777 c1015 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lexden

181C: Clause 148, page 168, line 9, at end insert—

“( ) Ex...

Lord Lexden | 777 cc1015-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to the amendments in this group in my name and the names of my noble frien...

Lord Cashman | 777 cc1016-1020 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely pleased to speak to the amendments by the noble Lord, Lord Lexden, to wh...

Lord Paddick | 777 c1020 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Lexden and Lord Cashman, for introducing the ame...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 777 cc1020-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much support all the amendments in this group. We have made tremendous progress ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc1021-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am so pleased to be able warmly to support the amendments proposed by the noble Lord,...

Lord Lexden | 777 c1022 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must express most grateful thanks to all noble Lords who have taken part in the debat...

Lord Cashman | 777 cc1022-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Cashman

181D: After Clause 149, insert the following new Clause—

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Lord Cashman | 777 c1023 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Cashman

181E: Clause 150, page 168, line 26, after “149” insert “, or u...

Lord Lexden | 777 cc1023-1031 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lexden

181G: After Clause 150, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Lord Paddick | 777 cc1031-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

181M: After Clause 150, insert the following new Clause—

...

Lord Paddick | 777 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 181M is in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. I tried to make i...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 777 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, and the noble Baroness, La...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc1032-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank both noble Lords for explaining the amendment, which was of course also tabled ...

Lord Paddick | 777 c1033 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister, who perhaps lulled me into a false sense of hope and optimism by s...

Lord Marlesford | 777 c1034 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marlesford

182: After Clause 152, insert the following new Clause—

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Lord Marlesford | 777 cc1034-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 182 on anonymity before charge, I refer to an earlier amendment whi...

Lord Paddick | 777 cc1036-1041 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have Amendment 187 in this group but, before I address that amendment, I would like ...

Lord Lamont of Lerwick | 777 cc1041-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 187. I do so with very great hesitation. I apologise to the ...

Lord Pannick | 777 cc1042-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a very difficult issue. The speeches that your Lordships have heard from the no...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 777 cc1044-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 182 and am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Marlesford, for moving ...

Lord Deben | 777 cc1046-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a non-lawyer, I hesitate to disagree with the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, but it seeme...

Lord Pannick | 777 c1047 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, does he think it is in the interests of the potential defendant ...

Lord Deben | 777 c1047 (Link to this contribution)

Not at all. The fact is that what the judge would be deciding is whether that name should be put ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 777 cc1047-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, I was not intending to take part in this debate. How...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 777 cc1048-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have spoken about this issue on a number of occasions over the years, most recently i...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 777 cc1049-1050 (Link to this contribution)

Oh, she is here. What my noble friend said is very interesting, because she is one of the great l...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 777 cc1050-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support what has just been said by the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, and the ame...

Viscount Hailsham | 777 cc1052-3 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord ended his remarks by saying that a grave injustice is caused to those when you hav...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 777 cc1053-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad I arrived in time to hear my noble friend Lord Campbell-Savours praying me in...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 777 c1055 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the issues raised by these amendments are extremely difficult. First, in view of all th...

Lord Judge | 777 cc1055-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been quoted on both sides, so I want to say something for myself. The most shock...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 777 cc1056-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been listening with a great deal of care to all that has been said. I have no do...

Lord Blunkett | 777 c1057 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not detain the House for long. I was the Home Secretary back in 2003 when, as ha...

Lord Faulks | 777 cc1057-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not delay the House long, either. We have rightly concentrated on the rights of ...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 777 cc1058-1060 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will address a couple of points briefly. First, I will address the difference between...

Lord Rosser | 777 cc1060-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I note that the noble Lord, Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames, concluded his comments by s...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc1062-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not a lawyer. When the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, and the noble and learned Barones...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 777 c1063 (Link to this contribution)

I do not quite understand how the shocking cohort of football cases relates to the issue in these...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1063 (Link to this contribution)

I am trying to illustrate that alleged victims’ willingness to come forward is now more common be...

Lord Paddick | 777 c1063 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister clarify that? I think she just said that there is a low conviction rate in trial...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1064 (Link to this contribution)

Many cases do not come to trial. I was trying to illustrate the reluctance of people to come forw...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 777 c1064 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister address the issue that was raised by most of the speakers, on the position of p...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1064 (Link to this contribution)

I think I addressed that right at the beginning of my speech, when I said that the Government com...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 777 c1064 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister acknowledges that there is a problem and that there have been cases of monstrous inj...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1064 (Link to this contribution)

I was just about to say—I do not know whether the noble Lord will be satisfied by it—that the Col...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 777 c1065 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the Minister is going to deal with this difficult issue with its complicated arg...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1065 (Link to this contribution)

I think that I have explained that the Government feel that we currently have the balance right a...

Lord Marlesford | 777 cc1065-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are two differences between my amendment and that of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 777 c1066 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames

183: After Clause 152, insert the following ...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 777 c1066 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak also to Amendment 184 in this group. I will also mention the fact that my ...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 777 c1066 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not move Amendments 183 and 184.

Lord Wigley | 777 cc1066-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wigley

185: After Clause 152, insert the following new Clause—

“V...

Lord Wigley | 777 c1067 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I realise that the House wants to move to a vote on the very important and significant ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c1067 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that if the noble Lord wants to press this amendment he has to press it now. We canno...

Lord Wigley | 777 c1067 (Link to this contribution)

I will speak as rapidly as I can and I am sorry that this is going to detain the House. Amendment...

Countess of Mar | 777 c1067 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would be grateful if noble Lords could be quiet because I cannot hear what the noble ...

Lord Wigley | 777 cc1067-1070 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful. I have rarely had that trouble in the past. As I was saying, it is the question of...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 777 c1070 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 185 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Wigley, for a...

Viscount Hailsham | 777 cc1070-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am conscious that your Lordships want to vote on Amendment 187, so I shall be brief, ...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 777 c1071 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Viscount sits down, is the point not that the complainant may say that the perso...

Viscount Hailsham | 777 c1071 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more with the noble Lord. I agree with him as I agreed with him on the previous...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 777 cc1071-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is also attached to this amendment, but I would not normally have spoken given ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc1072-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Wigley, has explained, this amendment is designed to strengthen...

Lord Wigley | 777 c1073 (Link to this contribution)

On that very point, if the court determines at that stage whether or not to release information, ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c1073 (Link to this contribution)

The problem is that, as I said earlier, it is an exceptional measure of last resort. This means t...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 777 c1073 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, I say that in the case with which the noble Lord, Lord Wigley, and...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc1073-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the noble Baroness will understand that I cannot go into individual cases. CPS policy o...

Lord Wigley | 777 c1074 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful. I realise that the House wants to move forward rapidly. I was grateful f...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c1074 (Link to this contribution)

We realise that certain aspects need to be addressed, which is why I said that I am ready to expl...

Lord Wigley | 777 c1074 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. On the basis of that assurance that there will be an investigation...

Baroness Berridge | 777 cc1074-5 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Baroness Berridge

186: After Clause 152, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Berridge | 777 c1075 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am mindful that the House wishes to move on this evening, and I am grateful to the Mi...

Lord Paddick | 777 c1075 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

187: After Clause 152, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Lord Paddick | 777 c1075 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the absence of any credible alternative, I wish to test the opinion of the House.

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 777 c1076 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon

187A: After Clause 152, insert the following new...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 777 cc1076-1080 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 187A, I declare an interest as a trustee of Paladin, the National S...

Viscount Hailsham | 777 cc1080-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much hope that your Lordships do not support this amendment. My reasons are both...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 777 c1081 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recognise the point that the noble Viscount has made about the general increase in th...

Lord Paddick | 777 c1081 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support the amendment. While I accept what the noble Viscount, Lord Hailsham...

Lord Rosser | 777 c1081 (Link to this contribution)

I will be brief. As the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, has indicated on behalf of the Liberal Democrat...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc1081-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I pay tribute to the work that the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, carries out as a truste...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 777 c1083 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for that response from the Minister and for the contributions from other ...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 777 c1083 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames

187B: After Clause 152, insert the following ...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 777 c1083 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I move the amendment on behalf of my noble friends Lord Paddick and Lady Hamwee. We deb...

Viscount Hailsham | 777 c1087 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be very brief. I have no objection to my noble friend answering the questions p...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 777 c1087 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will add just a footnote to what the noble Viscount said. Some years ago, there was a...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc1087-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Marks, raises the important issue of the protection of complainant...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 777 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for the further detail that she has given on the rev...

Baroness Hamwee | 777 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

187C: Clause 155, page 180, line 2, at end insert—

“( ...

Baroness Hamwee | 777 cc1088-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Paddick. In Committee the...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 777 cc1089-1090 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Baroness. Lady Hamwee, for speaking to me beforehand; w...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc1090-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, for raising this important issue. The...

Baroness Hamwee | 777 c1091 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister, but I cannot restrain myself from observing that her answer has been that t...

Baroness Brinton | 777 cc1091-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Brinton

188: After Clause 155, insert the following new Clause—

...
Baroness Brinton | 777 cc1092-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for meeting me and others to discuss this group of amendments about support ...

Lord Rosser | 777 c1094 (Link to this contribution)

I will be brief, but my name is attached to most of the amendments which we are now addressing. A...

Baroness Hamwee | 777 c1094 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that my noble friend will understand that, given the further business to which t...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc1094-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, for meeting with me, and for tabling these amendments a...

Baroness Brinton | 777 c1096 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response, but sadly, many of the concerns I have raised were not par...

Baroness Brinton | 777 cc1096-1102 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Brinton

189: After Clause 155, insert the following new Clause—

...
Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1102 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

194: Clause 159, page 185, line 29, leave out ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1102 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

197: Clause 159, page 186, line 22, at beginni...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1102 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

198: Clause 160, page 186, line 28, leave out ...

Lord Paddick | 777 c1102 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

200: Clause 160, page 186, line 34, at end insert—

“( ) s...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc1102-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

200B: Clause 160, page 187, line 5, after “(2)...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c1104 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

204: In the Title, line 15, after “enforcement...

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