UK Parliament / Open data

Investigatory Powers Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 7 September 2016, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage (fifth day, part one). Clauses 127-30, 132, 134, 136-45, 148, 150 agreed to. Clauses 131, 133, 135, 146-7, 149 and 151, as amended, agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
774 cc1042-1090 
Session
2016-17
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Draft Investigatory Powers Bill. Draft Investigatory Powers Bill Joint Committee report.
Wednesday, 3 February 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Legislative scrutiny: Investigatory Powers Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee first report with formal minutes.
Wednesday, 25 May 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Investigatory Powers Bill 2015-16 to 2016-17
Wednesday, 8 June 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Investigatory Powers Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) third report.
Friday, 8 July 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Rosser | 774 cc1042-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Rosser

194H: After Clause 220, insert the following new Clause—

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Lord Rosser | 774 cc1043-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I express our thanks to David Anderson QC, the Independent Reviewer of Terrorism...


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Baroness Hamwee | 774 cc1047-9 (Link to this contribution)

I hope I am right in thinking that the Government did not table an amendment to this effect at th...

Lord Murphy of Torfaen | 774 cc1049-1050 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment, which he very ably moved. As he said, it is the ...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 774 cc1050-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, other noble Lords have taken the opportunity in addressing this amendment to make some ...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 774 c1051 (Link to this contribution)

This is a very limited amendment in one sense, but this has become something of a Second Reading ...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 774 c1051 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if this was another forum, I might well say that I concur with the opinion of my noble ...

Lord Strasburger | 774 c1052 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to put three questions to the Government, which arise from Mr Anderson’s l...

Earl of Erroll | 774 c1052 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, although I acknowledge that this power may be necessary to try to track down and deal w...

Earl Howe | 774 cc1052-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have commented on David Anderson QC’s review....

Lord Rooker | 774 c1056 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Carlile, made the case for going a bit wider than the narrow wording of the ...

Earl Howe | 774 c1056 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Rooker. We will certainly do that. That is precisely t...

Lord Strasburger | 774 c1056 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Earl spoke at some length about the utility of bulk personal datasets to the intelligen...

Earl Howe | 774 c1056 (Link to this contribution)

Almost anyone has access to bulk personal datasets. Many of us have a telephone directory. A very...

Lord Rosser | 774 c1059 (Link to this contribution)

Before I wind up—and I shall, of course, withdraw the amendment—does the noble Earl anticipate th...

Earl Howe | 774 c1059 (Link to this contribution)

I anticipate that between now and Report the Government will have reached a conclusion on Mr Ande...

Lord Rosser | 774 c1059 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his detailed response and thank all noble Lords who have participated in...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1059 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

194J: Clause 129, page 103, line 2, leave out from “security” t...

Lord Paddick | 774 cc1059-1061 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 194J in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee, I shall sp...

Lord Beith | 774 c1061 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend has very helpfully referred to the qualification of economic well-being...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 cc1061-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am obliged to the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for making it clear that these are essent...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 774 c1062 (Link to this contribution)

I recall that with the noble Lord, Lord Beith, we went round this course a number of times in the...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 cc1062-5 (Link to this contribution)

If I had those illustrations to hand, I would, of course, deliver them this very moment. I regret...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1063 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord for his explanations. On Amendments 194J, 201B and 21...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 c1063 (Link to this contribution)

That plea to my artistic streak would require a somewhat abstract response, so perhaps the noble ...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1063 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, for example, with regard to the health records in Amendment 223B, I did not find the example...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 c1066 (Link to this contribution)

I will be quite content to formulate and intimate a more compelling example.

Lord Paddick | 774 c1066 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful. On Amendment 194L and a warrant issued only for the purpose of gathering evidence ...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1066 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

194M: Clause 130, page 104, line 11, after “requirement,” inser...

Lord Paddick | 774 cc1066-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 194M stands in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. I shall also ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 cc1067-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments relate to a judicial commissioner’s consideration of a bulk warrant th...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1068 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I am very grateful to the noble and learned Lord for his explanation and for joining the d...

Earl Howe | 774 c1069 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

195: Clause 131, page 104, line 30, after “must” insert “—

(...

Earl Howe | 774 c1069 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

197: Clause 133, page 105, line 10, leave out subsection (4) and i...

Earl Howe | 774 cc1069-1070 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 198, 207, 208, 213, 214, 227, 228 and 223, all of whic...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1070 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for those amendments. They bring a significant impro...

Lord Rosser | 774 c1070 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we hold a similar view to that which has just been expressed by the noble Lord, Lord Pa...

Earl Howe | 774 c1071 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

198: Clause 133, page 105, line 14, leave out from “issued,” to en...

Earl Howe | 774 c1071 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

199: Clause 135, page 105, line 31, leave out “before it would oth...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1071 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

201ZA: Clause 136, page 107, line 21, at end insert—

“( )...

Lord Paddick | 774 cc1072-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 201ZA and to speak, I am afraid, to another cornucopia of amend...

Earl Howe | 774 cc1073-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 201ZA, 210ZB, 217A and 231ZA seek to insert a provision into the clauses tha...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1075 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Earl for those explanations. Regarding Amendments 201ZA and that ...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1076 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

201ZD: Clause 137, page 108, line 12, leave out “fifth” and ins...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1076 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise; it is me again. In moving Amendment 201ZD in my name and that of my noble ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 c1076 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, while we must ensure that judicial commissioners have sufficient time to scrutinise eff...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1077 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble and learned Lord for his encouraging words and on that basis I be...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 774 c1077 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Butler of Brockwell

201A: After Clause 142, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 774 cc1077-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 201A I shall speak at the same time to the other proposed new claus...

Marquess of Lothian | 774 cc1078-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to support the noble Lord, Lord Butler, in these proposed new clauses. A...

Lord Rooker | 774 c1079 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may put a strictly non-lawyer’s question to the noble Lord, Lord Butler. Who decides wh...

Lord Deben | 774 c1079 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I always believe that these debates should not be carried out only between those who sp...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 774 cc1079-1080 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should like to add just a few words in support of the amendment proposed by the noble...

Lord Janvrin | 774 c1080 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, rise to support the three amendments tabled by noble friend Lord Butler. The point here i...

Lord Rosser | 774 cc1080-1 (Link to this contribution)

We are rather assuming that the Government will oppose the amendments, just as we— wrongly—assume...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1081 (Link to this contribution)

I want briefly to add our support for the amendments tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Butler of Bro...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 cc1081-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am conscious of the strength of feeling that has been expressed about this matter, bu...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1083 (Link to this contribution)

If the Government are concerned about overlapping criminal offences, particularly the overlap wit...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 c1083 (Link to this contribution)

I do not for a moment accept that it contradicts the argument. The objective is to ensure that we...

Marquess of Lothian | 774 c1083 (Link to this contribution)

In the interests of public confidence, can my noble and learned friend give an indication of what...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 c1083 (Link to this contribution)

The extent of the penalty would depend on the level at which the particular offence was prosecute...

Lord Rooker | 774 cc1083-4 (Link to this contribution)

This is probably a question for the noble Lord, Lord Butler, rather than anyone else. In subsecti...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 774 c1084 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I will attempt to answer the questions of the noble Lord, Lord Rooker. The purpo...

Earl Howe | 774 c1084 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

203: Clause 146, page 115, line 23, at end insert—

“( ) The ...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1085 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

203A: Clause 146, page 115, line 34, after “obtaining” insert “...

Lord Paddick | 774 cc1085-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 203A is in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. I shall also spea...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 c1086 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with the noble Lord’s intention in Amendment 204 to ensure that communications ...

Baroness Hamwee | 774 c1086 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that the noble and learned Lord is speaking to Amendment 204, which has not in ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 c1086 (Link to this contribution)

I had understood that the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, also referred to Amendment 204 but if he did ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 c1086 (Link to this contribution)

It will be recalled that the issue of third-party data was discussed during the last Committee se...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1087 (Link to this contribution)

If I can assist the noble and learned Lord, Amendment 204A is to probe and seek reassurance on th...

Lord Keen of Elie | 774 cc1087-8 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that there is any suggestion that it would involve speculative surveillance withou...

Lord Paddick | 774 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord for his explanation. As far as Amendment 204B and the...

Earl Howe | 774 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

205: Clause 147, page 116, line 20, after “must” insert “—

(...

Earl Howe | 774 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

207: Clause 149, page 117, line 1, leave out subsection (4) and in...

Earl Howe | 774 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

208: Clause 149, page 117, line 5, leave out from “issued,” to end...

Earl Howe | 774 c1090 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

209: Clause 151, page 117, line 22, leave out “before it would oth...

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