Charities (Protection and Social Investment) Bill [HL]
Thursday, 28 May 2015
Bills
House of Lords
My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, this Committee will adjourn...
Moved by
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town
14: After Clause 12, insert the following ne...
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My Lords, the amendment stands in the names of my noble friends Lord Watson of Invergowrie and Lo...
My Lords, I support this amendment and speak as the former chief executive of Carers UK, a very s...
My Lords, I am very glad that this amendment is before us but I noticed that in introducing it my...
My Lords, my name has been mentioned in this debate and perhaps I should intervene. I spent a goo...
Does the noble Lord agree that this is not altogether simple? He and I clearly agree on this impo...
My Lords, I am happy to be associated with this probing amendment. As I suspected, there is scope...
My Lords, the noble Baroness and some other noble Lords know that I have been asked by the Govern...
My Lords, I declare my interest as a trustee of a number of charities, national and local, a form...
As the chair of trustees of a musical charity, I would welcome the further conversation that we m...
I thank the noble Lord. I also think that I may have misunderstood the noble Baroness, Lady Hayte...
My Lords, I very much welcome this debate. It is exactly the kind of debate that we need to have ...
My Lords, I thank my noble friend and other noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. The Minis...
Moved by
Lord Lea of Crondall
15: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—
My Lords, Section 16(4) of the Charities Act 2011 sets out the commission’s general duties and Sc...
My Lords, I will not add to the case that has been made, but I would like to make a tiny point re...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Lea, for the explanation behind his amendment. I shall pic...
My Lords, I totally expected that the Minister would be unable to reply to my questions today; th...
Moved by
Lord Bew
15A: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—
“Damag...
My Lords, Amendment 15A is in my name and that of the noble Baroness, Lady Deech. The purpose of ...
I will speak briefly in support of my noble friend Lord Bew. I got interested in this area having...
My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Bew, has said, the purpose of the amendment is to remedy a defi...
I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bew, the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, and my noble friend Lord...
My Lords, I am intrigued by the amendment. My response to it, on the basis of about 30 years of w...
My Lords, I will of course defer to the noble Lord, Lord Gold, who is much more of a lawyer than ...
My Lords, we support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Bew. Change is needed beca...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Bew, and the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, for their explana...
I am very grateful to the Minister for his very full reply. My noble friend Lady Deech and I woul...
Moved by
Baroness Pitkeathley
15B: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—<...
My Lords, I again declare my interests as vice-president and patron of several charities, co-chai...
My Lords, the Committee owes a debt of gratitude to the noble Baroness for giving us a chance to ...
My Lords, I too thank the noble Baroness, Lady Pitkeathley. The funding of the Charity Commission...
My Lords, all those who have spoken have made the case for the amendment moved by my noble friend...
My Lords, I welcome this debate, prompted by the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Pitkeathle...
I thank the Minister for his thoughtful response and other noble Lords for their similarly valuab...
Moved by
Baroness Barker
16: Clause 13, page 16, line 10, leave out “both” and insert...
My Lords, before we start to debate the matters related to social investment in Clause 13, I shou...
My Lords, I have three amendments in the group, Amendments 18A, 18B and 20A, which follow the nob...
My Lords, I agree with much of what the noble Lord has said. Perhaps I may remind him that when I...
My Lords, I am in favour of these amendments. It is important to ensure that the Bill is drafted ...
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, and the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, for...
We are on to angels on the head of a pin, to be honest; this is very technical. When we have had ...
My noble friend takes words out of my mouth. I was about to invite him and the noble Baroness, La...
I thank all noble Lords who took part in what was a very technical but extremely important discus...
Moved by
Lord Lea of Crondall
18C: Clause 13, page 17, line 8, at end insert—
“...
My Lords, I tabled this amendment to help clarify what Clause 13 is not, as much as what it is. I...
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, and I both have amendments down for Monday’s Committee s...
My Lords, I want to add little to what my noble friend Lord Lea has said, but I do think it is a ...
My Lords, I will certainly give this amendment a serious response, and I thank the noble Lord for...
Can the Minister outline the checks that will be made to ensure that the social investment that, ...
The noble Baroness makes a good point. The overarching check will be that it meets the twin ends ...
My Lords, it would be going a bit far for me to say that I do not believe a word of this and that...
Probably not but I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. He is making a case for using ch...
Yes, I know the speech. I have great regard for the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, but my truth is muc...
Moved by
Baroness Barker
19: Clause 1003, page 17, line 18, at end insert “including,...
My Lords, after that foray into the wider realms of charity law and purposes, we come back to the...
We would all agree in principle that the beneficiaries of a charity should surely be involved as ...
My Lords, perhaps it because it is the end of a long day or because I had a spat with the noble L...
Will the noble Lord give way? I thank him for his patience because I could see that he was gettin...
Of course it closes the distance between us, but what it does not do is make clear why we need pa...
Perhaps I may have one more try at this. I hear what the noble Lord says but I have to say to him...
My Lords, I was slightly taken aback by the response of the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson of Astley Ab...
Does the noble Lord accept that charity trustees now understand that if they are making financial...
Of course I accept that advice would be taken; advice has been taken with normal investments up t...
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, and the noble Lords, Lord Cromwell and Lord Watson, for ...
That was a useful go-round. This is a very complex subject and it is extremely helpful to get the...
My Lords, I think this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn. The Committee is ...
My Lords, the Committee stands adjourned.