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Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 2 February 2015, in the House of Lords.
Lords report stage (first day). Clause 23, amendment agreed to on question. New clause agreed to on question
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759 cc461-517 
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2014-15
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Report stage
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New clauses
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House of Lords chamber
Legislative scrutiny: Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee fifth report with formal minutes.
Wednesday, 7 January 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill 2014-15. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 28 January 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hamwee | 759 c461 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

1: Schedule 1, page 34, line 5, at end insert—

“( ) A ...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 cc462-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Schedule 1 to the Bill provides for the seizure of passports from persons suspected of ...


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Baroness Buscombe | 759 c463 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a member of the Joint Committee on Human Rights and I should like to say strongly ...

Baroness Ludford | 759 c463 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I meant to ask the noble Baroness a question before she sat down. My noble friend Lady ...

Baroness Buscombe | 759 cc463-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is the Report stage and in order for me to speak a second time it has to be accept...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 759 c464 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment and wish to address the comment made by my noble friend previou...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 759 c464 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this would be a safeguard without substance. What is required here is that a person is ...

Lord Pannick | 759 c465 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is not gesture politics. There are many areas of the law where an obligation to pr...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 759 c465 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, following on from what the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, has just said, it may be possible ...

Lord Bates | 759 cc465-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for giving us an opportunity to discuss this issue aga...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 cc467-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Buscombe, quite reasonably asked us to imagine a situation. I ...

Lord Bates | 759 c468 (Link to this contribution)

On the latter point, of course the code is open to consultation. I certainly give an undertaking ...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c468 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend and beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 759 c468 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Kennedy of The Shaws

1A: Schedule 1, page 37, line 16, at end inser...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 759 cc468-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I return in this set of amendments to matters that I raised in Committee. I do so as a ...

Lord Bates | 759 cc469-471 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for again moving the amendment. At the outset, I sh...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 759 c470 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot pretend that the resistance to the argument that there should be proper judici...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c472 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

2: Schedule 1, page 39, line 27, leave out “is” and insert “...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c472 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 3 and 4 are also in this group. In Committee, I raised the issue not only of...

Lord Bates | 759 c472 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lord Ashton indeed undertook to go back to consider whether the intention was tha...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c472 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is good news. I had not thought that the words “in relation to” the person could e...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c473 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

5: Schedule 1, page 40, line 32, at end insert “including in...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c473 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 6 and 7. In Committee I raised the issue of people who...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 759 cc473-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness mentioned my name in her speech in support of this amendment. I put ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 759 c475 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have enormous respect for the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope of Craighead, who has...

Baroness Ludford | 759 c475 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I urge the merit of these amendments very briefly. First, there has been a slight tende...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 759 c476 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly to Amendment 5, which, if I have understood correctly, is to do wi...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 759 c476 (Link to this contribution)

On the point that the noble Baroness has just made, I was just thinking how difficult it must be ...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 759 cc476-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friends for tabling these amendments, which cover issues conc...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 759 c477 (Link to this contribution)

Could the noble Lord clarify one point? I may have done so incorrectly, but I took him to say tha...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 759 c479 (Link to this contribution)

The Government’s position is that we do not want people to pay money to terrorists for any reason...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c479 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there were a few nuggets in that, for which I am grateful, so I shall not spend time on...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c479 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

8: Clause 4, page 3, line 35, at end insert “and a summary o...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c480 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 8 takes us back to the subject of gisting, but in the context of the impositi...

Baroness Warsi | 759 c480 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to add words of support for the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee. Providing the “gist...

Lord Bates | 759 cc480-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for moving this amendment and for giving me the opport...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c482 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that. I certainly had not envisaged putting any ideas into an ...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 759 c482 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood

10: Clause 20, page 13, line 36, leave out...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 759 cc482-4 (Link to this contribution)

In moving Amendment 10 and speaking to Amendment 11, I am returning to an unimplemented recommend...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 759 c484 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I oppose Amendment 11. I shall be brief, but I appreciate that what I am about to say r...

Lord Tebbit | 759 cc484-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to say how much I agree with my noble friend Lord Howard. He is absolutely right...

Lord Hylton | 759 c485 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we can all sympathise with the noble Lord, Lord Tebbit. I apologise for daring to inter...

Lord Tebbit | 759 c485 (Link to this contribution)

I do not ask for sympathy. I ask for action to prevent other people being murdered by terrorists....

Lord Hylton | 759 c485 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord might recall that this Bill is being dealt with under fast-track provision. I supp...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c485 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the noble Lord will give way. I just feel that phrases like “sending to Siberia” do not h...

Lord Hylton | 759 c485 (Link to this contribution)

Gloucester is rather nearer to London than 200 miles, which is a possible distance. Having said t...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c485 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at the last stage I supported the noble and learned Lord. I had not thought it would be...

Lord Woolf | 759 c485 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister rises, I will just say that, as I understand what is proposed by my noble and...

Lord Bates | 759 cc485-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord for moving the amendment. I was conscious of disagree...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 759 c487 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all those who contributed to this debate and to the Minister for the w...

Lord Bates | 759 c487 (Link to this contribution)

In terms of the Government’s position on this, it is a principle. We gave it a great deal of refl...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 759 c487 (Link to this contribution)

I was not relying on any reconsideration as a basis for not dividing the House. I merely say that...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 759 cc488-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord King of Bridgwater

11A: After Clause 21, insert the following new Claus...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 759 cc489-492 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak also to the other amendments in the group, Amendments 11B to 11T, in my na...

Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 759 cc492-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment. Like others, I have been involved with national security for m...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 759 c494 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick, sits down, perhaps I may say that I alw...

Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 759 c494 (Link to this contribution)

For the very reason that, as I have tried to explain, I can see no reason for the Bill to be brou...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 759 cc494-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall make a few very brief comments in supporting my noble friend Lord King. It is n...

Lord Blair of Boughton | 759 cc495-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was brought up to believe that politics was the art of the possible. As a supporter o...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 cc497-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment and make no apologies for reiterating some of the things that h...

Lord Blencathra | 759 cc498-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am the first Peer to speak against the amendments. I am very sorry that I have to dis...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c499 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord agree that, in two months of working on this issue and on the amendment, one ...

Lord Blencathra | 759 cc499-500 (Link to this contribution)

I take the noble Lord’s point but I want to make it clear to the House—I apologise if I gave a mi...

Lord Howard of Lympne | 759 cc500-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is always a pleasure to follow my noble friend Lord Blencathra, with whom I worked s...

Lord Paddick | 759 cc501-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, to address the comments made by my noble friend Lord King of Bridgwater and other noble...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c502 (Link to this contribution)

Having shared that with only 11 million people, I am shocked that the noble Lord should do so in ...

Lord Armstrong of Ilminster | 759 cc502-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at this stage there is no need for me to rehearse all the arguments in favour of this g...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 759 cc503-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is something of a mess. I was certainly alerted—and I know that other noble Lords ...

Baroness Ludford | 759 cc505-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot resist the opportunity to add my ha’penny-worth, to respond to my noble friend...

Baroness Neville-Jones | 759 c506 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Harrison of Haringey, said that there is a danger of people being ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 759 cc506-511 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we had a full, thorough and interesting debate on this issue last week, as we have had ...

Lord Bates | 759 cc508-513 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an excellent debate. The points which have been raised have in effect foc...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c513 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way. Is he saying then that this will be a manifesto commitment?<...

Lord Bates | 759 cc513-4 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord will recognise that I am a little too junior to actually write the manifesto. What...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 759 cc514-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had another most excellent debate in what the whole House, I believe, recognise...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 759 c515 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

12: After Clause 22, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 759 cc515-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we move now to Part 4 of the Bill—I hope, briefly—dealing with aviation, shipping and r...

Lord Rosser | 759 c517 (Link to this contribution)

We had an amendment in Committee when this issue was discussed, in the light of the report of the...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 759 c517 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ashton of Hyde

13: Clause 23, page 16, line 10, leave out from “refer,”...

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