Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill

My Lords, Amendment 103B in this group is in my name. Widespread concerns have been expressed abo...

My Lords, I am sure that a great many of your Lordships are involved in higher education and univ...

My Lords, I am slightly bemused by this grouping because it contains two very different amendment...

I should point out to the noble Lord that I said that it was merely a probing amendment and that ...

I am not criticising the noble Baroness and I appreciate that all Liberal Democrat amendments are...

My Lords, I will speak to both these amendments, although it may well be that much of what I have...

My Lords, first, I apologise to the Committee that I have not spoken before. However, I was prese...

I, too, hesitate to speak, not having been able to take part in the Second Reading debate, but I ...

My Lords, I want to make a couple of brief comments on Amendment 103A. I echo my noble friend Lad...

My Lords, I apologise to the Committee for not having taken part in the Second Reading of the Bil...

I would like to add to that last point and ask the Minister for an evidence base post-2009, becau...

My Lords, I will speak briefly to these amendments, because the main debate on guidance will take...

My Lords, I begin by apologising to my noble friend Lady Sharp for not being in my place for the ...

If universities are already implementing much of what the Government rightly think needs to happe...

The point that the noble Baroness makes about HEFCE is a very good one. Depending on the outcome ...

Does the Minister agree that social services’ statutory guidance on responding to child sexual ab...

In many ways, that is demonstrating what the Government are seeking to do in putting this on a st...

I can perhaps help my noble friend. I do not dispute the definition of terrorism, the definition ...

I accept that, and there will be ongoing work, but I wanted to put on record the current working ...

I am sure the Minister will agree that—this is not either/or—that it is a matter of winning the w...

Of course, many of us subscribe to the view that one of the greatest forces against extremism is ...

The Minister just, for the second time during his winding up, referred to the phrase “having due ...

My noble friend has great legal expertise in the terms being used here. We are saying that, clear...

My Lords, before my noble friend responds, I had degrouped that amendment from my rather than fro...

I thank the Minister for his response to my amendment and other noble Lords who have participated...

Moved by

Baroness Lister of Burtersett

104: Clause 21, page 14, line 7, at end insert...

My Lords, in moving this amendment I will speak also to Amendments 105, 107, 109 and 115 on behal...

My Lords, I have put my name to Amendments 104, 105 and 115, which seek to protect universities a...

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 104, 105, 107, 109 and 115, to which my name has been added....

My Lords, I put my name to Amendments 110 and 112, along with the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, and I...

I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend. I was under the impression that the noble Lord, Lord Bat...

If that is the case, no doubt my noble friend the Minister will make that clear.

The greate...

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendments 112A, 112B and 112D. I shall start by speaking to th...

My Lords, I shall start by mentioning that I, too, serve on the Joint Committee on Human Rights—I...

My Lords, Oxford is well represented today. I declare an interest as a fellow of All Souls Colleg...

My Lords, I entirely support the points that have been made by all noble Lords who have spoken in...

My Lords, I start by declaring an interest as the chair of the Court and Council of Imperial Coll...

My Lords, I shall say a few short words in support of this group of amendments. I pay tribute to ...

My Lords, my name is attached to quite a number of the amendments in this group. I am not going t...

My Lords, this has been a radical debate in the profound sense of getting to the roots of things....

My Lords, I shall speak briefly to Amendment 104. In so doing, I declare a past interest, as I wa...

My Lords, I shall certainly not repeat what has been said—I am sorry; has the noble Lord not fini...

My Lords, I have a little to go.

Perhaps I may end in this way. The motivations of the Gove...

I shall not weary the House by using all the arguments that have been so well advanced by noble L...

The amendments here fall into two distinct categories. There is the root-and-branch objection to ...

I will speak very briefly as we come to the end of this debate. As I was listening to it, I reali...

My Lords, I rise as the last member of the Joint Committee on Human Rights—a long cast of players...

I declare two interests, one as chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, which is think...

My Lords, I am also an academic who tends not to write speeches in advance. I had not planned to ...

My Lords, it should be no surprise that this debate has lasted as along as the debate on Monday o...

My Lords, it has been an excellent debate, which I will reflect on. The noble Baroness should not...

How does the Minister envisage universities engaging with these groups to help them to see the er...

I will try to go on to explain about the guidance to the noble Baroness. I recognise her academic...

I am sorry to cut my noble friend off in mid-flow. He may be aware that that kind of guidance led...

I accept that my noble friend had lead responsibility for that, and she has far more experience i...

I was trying to make the point that it would be helpful to have an example of where the existing ...

Yes; and I suppose that that comes from evidence. I accept that that evidence is not in the marsh...

If the intention is that the Prevent duty should, as the Minister just told the House, sit alongs...

That is in my next paragraph, if the noble Lord will let me come to it.

However, I can equa...

Could the Minister perhaps extend the period of reflection with his colleagues to cover the issue...

Well, yes, I am happy to say that we will continue to keep the whole thing under review. That is ...

My Lords, I am grateful for those remarks, but I think that advocating the idea that the distinct...

Having been on the receiving end of mass campaigns by people who are deeply upset at the state da...

While the Minister is speaking of reflection, will he reflect further on the issue for charities?...

I accept the point that my noble friend makes about charities. That is the reason why the Charity...

My Lords, the Minister made a remark earlier that went to the highly contentious issue which at l...

Normally I go beyond what I am instructed to say by my patient Bill team who work behind me, but ...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his characteristically good-natured and considered response, w...

My Lords, before we move on to the next amendment, perhaps I may suggest, for the aid of noble Lo...

Moved by

Lord Rosser

105A: Schedule 3, page 47, line 4, at end insert—

“A unita...

My Lords, Clause 21 places a general duty on specified authorities, defined as,

“a person o...

My Lords, the world of local government, in its kaleidoscopic way, is changing at the moment with...

My Lords, I suspect that my noble friend’s amendment highlights the fact that this is a list whic...

My Lords, I can say in advance that I will probably be writing to both my noble friend and the no...

Where do GPs, as part of the health service, fit into the system?

I am thinking on my feet. The legislation mentions a community health council in Wales, a local h...

Oh!

That was a good try but I am clearly in need of that break. Rather than answer now, I shall add m...

If it is a function across health professionals and health services, the proportion of people who...

My Lords, if the Minister is going to come back to us on various points, perhaps he can include s...

As I sat down to take that intervention, further inspiration came to me on this matter. We are co...

I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. I am left feeling somewhat lonely. I ...

I am happy to write to the noble Lord on that.

I thank the Minister. I no longer feel lonely; I am going to get a letter as well. The question h...

Moved by

Lord Bates

106: Schedule 3, page 47, line 24, at beginning insert—

“A ...

Moved by

Lord Bates

108: Schedule 3, page 48, line 20, at end insert—

“A person...

Moved by

Lord Bates

111: Schedule 3, page 48, line 28, leave out “Assembly”

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

112BA: Clause 24, page 15, line 13, at end insert—

“( ...

My Lords, Amendment 112BA is grouped with a number of other amendments, most of which relate to C...

My Lords, I should like to speak to Amendments 112C and 112E, which are in my name. I start by ap...

My Lords, Amendment 112E is in my name and I join the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, in her reason...

I have added my name to Amendments 112C and 112E. It is important that the fine print of the duty...

My Lords, the concerns that were expressed in earlier debates about the draft statutory guidance ...

My Lords, clearly we have returned from our break reinvigorated, although I suspect that when nob...

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for moving her amendment and to other noble Lords w...

I think that the noble Lord is making a good fist of it but it is not very convincing. He thinks ...

My Lords, while the Minister takes the opportunity to read fully the piece of paper that has just...

In that case, it is probably the fault of the rather poor example that I gave rather than the act...

Before the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, makes that decision, I revert to the question of what it ...

My Lords, my noble friend might not be too pleased to know that I was scribbling quite a lot duri...

I am grateful to my noble friend for allowing me to interrupt her. The Minister, during the cours...

I am not sure whether that was a question for me; I assume it was, although it seems to be beyond...

Moved by

Lord Bates

113: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—

“Mon...

My Lords, with the leave of the House I will take Amendments 113 and 114 together. Throughout our...

My Lords, I think I understand the purpose of the clauses from the explanation that the Minister ...

My Lords, I have a few questions concerning the role of HEFCE as the appropriate monitoring body....

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords for their questions. I will first deal with the questions ...

Is it the intention to make further amendments by statutory instrument rather than by primary leg...

Perhaps I could reflect on that a little more and then return to it. Of course, there is still pa...

Moved by

Lord Bates

114: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—

“Pow...

Moved by

Lord Phillips of Sudbury

115A: After Clause 26, insert the following new Cla...

My Lords, Amendments 115A, 118A and 123 stand in the names of the noble Viscount, Lord Hanworth, ...

My Lords, my name is also attached to the amendments in this group and I strongly support the rem...

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for moving the amendment and giving us the opportunity to consi...

My Lords, the Minister will not be surprised to hear that his response is a little disappointing ...

Obviously I am sorry if the noble Lord feels that the response was not adequate. The amendment wa...

My Lords, I thank my noble friend the Minister, but I am afraid that I shall be even less complim...

All the way through, we have tried to say that we envisage a light-touch duty to have regard to s...

I thank my noble friend for that but I have to disagree with him. He talks about a small addition...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

115AA: Clause 28, page 16, line 32, after “police” insert “o...

My Lords, Amendment 115AA takes us back into Chapter 2 and the Channel programme. Clause 28 deals...

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 115C in this group. We have tabled this amendment bec...

My Lords, we have one amendment in this group, Amendment 115AD. Its effect is to give the Secreta...

My Lords, I will just say a few words in relation to this group. Best practice as I have observed...

My Lords, this debate has allowed us to consider matters relating to the duty to create local pan...

I have listened carefully to my noble friend and there is one important lacuna in what he just sa...

I certainly take my noble friend’s point. I believe that the panel can include anyone who the loc...

The Minister has given the reply that I indicated I thought would be forthcoming—namely that what...

The reason that we want to put this on a statutory footing—which was recommended, incidentally, b...

The point that I was raising was not about funding or querying why the local panels would be put ...

There is a reason why we want to put the local authorities’ duties on a statutory footing. If the...

My Lords, the reference to insurance leaves me—I have to confess—rather bemused. That was not at ...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

115AE: Clause 28, page 17, line 30, at end insert—

“( ...

I will try to move this amendment in under one minute, and not only because the Chief Whip is her...

The noble Baroness has set a racing example, and I, too, will try to be extremely brief. My name ...

My Lords, we have had a very brief debate on this part of the Bill. I am grateful to my noble fri...

My Lords, I suspect that as with the equivalent group on the previous provisions, we may want to ...

Moved by

Lord Bates

116: Schedule 4, page 50, line 5, at end insert—

“A person ...

Moved by

Baroness Berridge

118B: After Clause 33, insert the following new Clause—