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Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 26 January 2015, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Bates.
Lords committee stage second day. Clauses 13 to 17 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2.)
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
759 cc12-75 
Session
2014-15
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Legislative scrutiny: Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee fifth report with formal minutes.
Wednesday, 7 January 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill 2014-15. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 8 January 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) eighth report.
Monday, 12 January 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. Fourteenth report.
Wednesday, 14 January 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hamwee | 759 c12 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

70: Clause 13, page 8, line 28, after “restrictions” insert ...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c13 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 70, I shall speak also to Amendment 71—slightly less fast-tracked l...


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Lord Bates | 759 cc13-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for tabling these amendments, which allow us to have a...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c14 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is very helpful. I wondered whether my noble friend might refer to the need to hav...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c14 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

72: Clause 15, page 10, line 3, at end insert—

“( ) Th...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c15 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving this amendment I will speak also to Amendment 74. The noble Baroness, Lady Sm...

Lord Rosser | 759 cc15-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, our Amendment 73 is in this group. As has been said, Clause 15, on appointments for peo...

Lord Bates | 759 cc16-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I will put some remarks on...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c18 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the response. On the last point which is not the subject of an amendm...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 759 c18 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood

75: Clause 16, page 10, line 10, leave out...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 759 cc18-20 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 75 is not a probing amendment. This is for real. Perhaps the most challenging...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 759 cc20-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have spoken about internal exile, as I choose to call it, on a number of occasions in...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 759 c21 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Brown, has moved his amendment with his customary coge...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c21 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to strongly support the amendment by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Brow...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 759 cc21-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to add just a small point in support of what my noble and learned friend Lord Br...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c22 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my support for the noble and learned Lord’s amendment is for real, to use his own term....

Lord Macdonald of River Glaven | 759 c22 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think noble Lords on all sides of the Committee have acknowledged that, because of th...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 759 cc22-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise that I was not here at the beginning of the noble and learned Lord’s remark...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 759 c23 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is always with some trepidation that I rise to speak in a debate where I am the only...

Lord Bates | 759 cc23-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords for having spoken in this debate. I say that I am grateful...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 759 cc25-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for that considered response. I am perhaps even more grateful to al...

Baroness Ludford | 759 c27 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Ludford

76: Clause 17, page 10, line 32, after “or” insert “is nece...

Baroness Ludford | 759 cc27-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment stands in my name and those of my noble friends Lady Hamwee and Lord Padd...

Lord Rosser | 759 cc28-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, our Amendment 78 in this group seeks to make it explicit that the extra data retention ...

Lord Bates | 759 cc29-32 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for introducing this amendment. I will try to address ...

Baroness Ludford | 759 c32 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I appreciate my noble friend’s extensive reply and explanation. I am still somewhat une...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 759 cc32-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord King of Bridgwater

79: After Clause 17, insert the following new Clause...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 759 cc33-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 79 standing in my name and that of the noble Lords, Lord Blair, Lor...

Lord Blair of Boughton | 759 cc37-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I placed my name in support of Amendment 79 with those of the noble Lords, Lord King of...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 cc39-40 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is also on this amendment in support of the noble Lord, Lord King, along with t...

Lord Blencathra | 759 cc40-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am afraid that it falls upon me to be the first to break the all-party consensus. I d...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c43 (Link to this contribution)

I am interested in why the noble Lord believes there is no opportunity for us now, within this tw...

Lord Blencathra | 759 cc43-4 (Link to this contribution)

If the Home Office were to come along with a whole range of those clauses as proposed in our Sele...

Lord Rooker | 759 c44 (Link to this contribution)

So far, no one who has spoken in this debate has referred to the final amendment in this group, A...

Lord Blencathra | 759 cc44-5 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes a very good point about the sunset clause, which might reassure many of us i...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 759 cc45-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow such a cogent and interesting speech by the noble Lord...

Lord Condon | 759 c47 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the four noble Lords who have put their names to these amendments for renewing ...

Lord Evans of Weardale | 759 cc47-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a non-executive director of the National Crime Agency. Unfortu...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c48 (Link to this contribution)

It is important to note that it does fill part of the gap. I know, having been a Minister for thr...

Lord Evans of Weardale | 759 cc48-9 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that this is a very important element, but it is not the answer to everything.

My ...

Lord Paddick | 759 cc49-50 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not speaking here on a party-political, but on a personal basis. I want to tell no...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c50 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord not agree that in, I think I am right in saying, 100% of all the cases where ...

Lord Paddick | 759 c50 (Link to this contribution)

My understanding is that that is absolutely not the case. There were numerous cases—though it may...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c50 (Link to this contribution)

If I may say so, it was the case during my three years as a Minister. It was very different, of c...

Lord Paddick | 759 cc50-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I have not yet finished, noble Lords will be alarmed to hear.

Noble Lords h...

Baroness Neville-Jones | 759 cc51-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the House faces three choices. The first would be not to accept these amendments and no...

Lord Armstrong of Ilminster | 759 cc52-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the issue raised by this group of amendments, long as it is, is straightforward enough....

Lord Strasburger | 759 cc54-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I confess that I do not really know where to start. I think it is true that all the pre...

Baroness Lane-Fox of Soho | 759 cc55-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not being able to speak at Second Reading. I was detained at a board me...

Baroness Ludford | 759 cc56-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are objections of both process and substance to these amendments which make it in...

Lord West of Spithead | 759 c57 (Link to this contribution)

While I understand what the noble Baroness is saying about the various studies, does she agree th...

Baroness Ludford | 759 cc57-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that remark, but I understand that the Independent Reviewer of Terrori...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 759 cc58-60 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to oppose the amendments for many of the reasons outlined here today. First, the...

Lord Macdonald of River Glaven | 759 cc60-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was surprised that at an early stage in his speech the noble Lord, Lord West, suggest...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 759 cc62-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I sense that the House probably wants to come to a conclusion, so I will not delay nobl...

Lord Marlesford | 759 cc63-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am curious about two of the sources of opposition to what my noble friend Lord King a...

Baroness Warsi | 759 cc64-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Butler, I appreciate that this debate has gone on for some ti...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 759 cc65-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a long debate with some powerful and informed speeches. I take issue with...

Lord Bates | 759 cc68-70 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an extremely good debate, and in that spirit the actual sequence of event...

Lord Bates | 759 cc70-1 (Link to this contribution)

His seven years’ experience there, as the noble Lord tells me, and seven years as chairman of the...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 759 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for interrupting my noble friend, who is giving a most helpful speech, but can he con...

Lord Bates | 759 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I can certainly say in response that a copy of the Bill will be, if it has not already been, made...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 759 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt again, but can my noble friend confirm that, in coming back to us, he wil...

Lord Bates | 759 c72 (Link to this contribution)

That is a more difficult question, which I am sure is why the noble Lord has pressed me on it. Th...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 759 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I note the Minister’s response to the noble Lord, Lord Carlile. Can I ask for an assurance that t...

Lord Bates | 759 c72 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness will perhaps understand if I need to just check with people on a slightly high...

Lord Rooker | 759 c73 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to delay the Minister, but let us not beat about the bush. I do not speak for anybo...

Baroness Hamwee | 759 c73 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before my noble friend responds, and without making any comment about whether we should...

Lord Bates | 759 cc73-4 (Link to this contribution)

I also acknowledge the noble Lord’s experience as a former Minister—I am surrounded by former Hom...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 759 cc74-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for the way in which he has responded to the long and very importa...

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