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Recall of MPs Bill

Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 5 agreed to as amended. Clause 6 agreed to. Schedule 1 agreed to.
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Parliamentary proceeding
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758 cc859-888 
Session
2014-15
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Recall of MPs Bill 2014-15. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 25 November 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Recall of MPs Bill
Wednesday, 14 January 2015
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 c859 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock

5: Clause 1, page 1, line 18, leave out subsection (...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 c860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment is grouped with Amendments 7, 8, 12 and 36. The amendment deletes the who...


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Viscount Ullswater | 758 c860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must advise your Lordships that if the amendment is agreed, I will not be able to cal...

Baroness Taylor of Bolton | 758 cc860-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, after that introduction by my noble friend, I rise to speak to Amendment 7 in particula...

Lord Tyler | 758 c862 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have huge sympathy with these two amendments because, of course, Amendments 7 and 8 g...

Baroness Taylor of Bolton | 758 c862 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I agree with his point that it is very difficult ...

Lord Tyler | 758 cc862-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness and that is why I support the amendment. However, it is impor...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 758 c863 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is an important principle that the punishment should fit the crime. Although a crimi...

Lord Cormack | 758 cc863-5 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the noble Baroness, with whom I had the great pleasure of serving when I wa...

Lord Grocott | 758 cc865-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thought that my noble friend Lady Taylor put it very well in terms of the huge signif...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c866 (Link to this contribution)

As the Bill stands, it does say,

“as the result of a report from the Standards Committee”—<...

Lord Grocott | 758 c866 (Link to this contribution)

Surely I can at least persuade the Minister that that is a seriously anomalous situation that he ...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 758 c866 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I regarded it as an immense privilege to be a Member of the other House only for eight ...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 758 c867 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the issue raised by the whole Bill and by this amendment in particular is whether the H...

Lord Maxton | 758 c867 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree entirely. Perhaps I may make one very important point—I had a conversation in t...

Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 758 c867 (Link to this contribution)

But does the noble Lord not accept that, if the recommendation of the report is that the Member s...

Lord Maxton | 758 c868 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the most of that, but the commissioner’s report makes a recommendation on sentence a...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 758 cc868-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments contains amendments for which I am able to offer the support o...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 758 cc869-870 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Lord finishes his remarks, I take him back to the justification which ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 758 c870 (Link to this contribution)

I do not agree with the noble Lord. The amendment was tabled by the Opposition Front Bench becaus...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 cc870-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, let me speak briefly to the government amendments, which, as the noble Lord, Lord Kenne...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 758 c871 (Link to this contribution)

Do not Members of both Houses equally have a responsibility to try to ensure the integrity of Par...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c871 (Link to this contribution)

I wish we had heard that sentiment a little more often when we were discussing reform of this Hou...

Lord Soley | 758 c871 (Link to this contribution)

Although the noble Lord might be right about not being nostalgic about things going back to 40 ye...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c871 (Link to this contribution)

We understand that we are dealing with some fairly fundamental principles. The noble Lord, Lord M...

Lord Maxton | 758 c871 (Link to this contribution)

It is the link between politics and the public—the media—which is the cause of the problem, not t...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c871 (Link to this contribution)

I wish I could entirely agree with the noble Lord. There are many good aspects of the end of defe...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 758 c872 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend concludes his remarks, would he do us the courtesy of dealing with the arg...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c872 (Link to this contribution)

We do take our lead from the House of Commons on this. I remarked that the Commons Standards Comm...

Baroness Taylor of Bolton | 758 c872 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. He said, in answer to his noble friend Lord Forsyth...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c872 (Link to this contribution)

Politics cannot be entirely dismissed from anything. Going back to that wonderful period in the 1...

Lord Grocott | 758 c872 (Link to this contribution)

Whatever the Minister’s reservations about the rights of this House to try and improve legislatio...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c873 (Link to this contribution)

I am not aware of what the Speaker did on the same day. I will certainly look at that.

Lord Tyler | 758 c873 (Link to this contribution)

I shall assist my noble friend briefly on this because I think there is a potential anomaly, as t...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 758 c873 (Link to this contribution)

I shall make a point which I think illustrates the matter raised by the noble Lord, Lord Tyler. I...

Lord Tyler | 758 c873 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know whether I am entitled to interrupt myself when I was interrupting my noble friend w...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 c873 (Link to this contribution)

I have been sitting quietly—unusually for me—listening carefully to what has been a fascinating d...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c874 (Link to this contribution)

The number of days is always in some ways an arbitrary decision. In our amendments, which are con...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 c874 (Link to this contribution)

My favoured amendment is Amendment 5, which would delete this whole provision, because the Member...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c874 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is again making a Second Reading speech—but that is in a sense appropriate, since ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 c875 (Link to this contribution)

If the Minister and the Government accepted what I have raised on about 59 other occasions—that w...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 758 c875 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord. Is not the answer to his question obvious? We have had it f...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 c875 (Link to this contribution)

Why do we come at all? Why are we going to come tomorrow to discuss the business for tomorrow, or...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c876 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

6: Clause 1, page 1, line 19, after “Standards” ins...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c876 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

9: Clause 1, page 2, line 5, leave out “in relation...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c876 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

14: Clause 2, page 2, line 23, leave out “(the firs...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c876 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

15: Clause 2, page 2, line 23, leave out from “cond...

Lord Colwyn | 758 c876 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, following acceptance of Amendment 14, Amendment 15 has been changed. It is now proposed...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c877 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

17: Clause 2, page 2, line 26, at end insert—

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c877 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

18: Clause 3, page 3, line 5, leave out “(the first...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 cc877-8 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

21: Clause 4, page 3, line 40, after second “MP” in...

Lord Dubs | 758 c878 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Dubs

33: After Clause 4, insert the following new Clause—

“Furthe...

Lord Dubs | 758 cc878-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is of course a probing amendment, although I would very much like to see it incorp...

Lord Soley | 758 cc879-880 (Link to this contribution)

The election court is outside the ambit of this Bill, but my noble friend makes the case for incl...

Lord Grocott | 758 c880 (Link to this contribution)

I appeal to the Minister to address this matter. It is an important issue for the Committee to co...

Lord Tyler | 758 cc880-1 (Link to this contribution)

I dare to make a brief comment after what the noble Lord, Lord Grocott, said. I have sympathy wit...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 758 c881 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lord Dubs has, as usual, set out eloquently why he has sought to bring the outcom...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 758 cc881-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his probing amendment and the debate that we have had on it....

Lord Dubs | 758 c882 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for what he has said. I did, in fact, try to distinguis...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c882 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

34: Clause 5, page 4, line 23, leave out “or second...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 c882 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock

35: Clause 5, page 4, line 28, leave out “6” and ins...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 c883 (Link to this contribution)

I did not know that noble Lords wanted to hear me again this evening, but there we are. This is a...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c883 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that I understood that the noble Lord was moving Amendment 35, which is about t...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 cc883-4 (Link to this contribution)

I was leading up to that. I want the time to be discussed. My amendment changes the time to “3 mo...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 758 cc884-5 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that my noble friend Lord Foulkes should apologise at all. I congratulate him on t...

Lord Grocott | 758 c885 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I am slightly out of turn in mentioning this at this point, but it will save ti...

Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 758 c885 (Link to this contribution)

Was it not a very great mistake, if the Fixed-term Parliaments Bill was going to be introduced me...

Lord Grocott | 758 cc885-6 (Link to this contribution)

That is absolutely right, but of course we know why the five-year provision was enacted in the fi...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 758 cc886-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments and clause stand part in this group look specifically at the role of the...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 cc887-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will start by answering the question on the role of the Speaker. I will take that awa...

Lord Grocott | 758 c888 (Link to this contribution)

The good news is that in five of the seven parliaments that lasted for the full five years, the G...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 758 c888 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is, as always, wonderfully optimistic. The interesting question of how many partie...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 758 c888 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that we will hear more about fixed-term Parliaments and their problems during this year...

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