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Consumer Rights Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 29 October 2014, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Jolly and Baroness Neville-Rolfe.
Lords committee stage sixth day. Clauses 61 to 79 agreed to. Schedules 1 to 6 agreed to, with schedules 3 and 5 agreed to as amended.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
756 cc441-503GC 
Session
2014-15
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Consumer Rights Bill 2013-14 to 2014-15. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 17 June 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. third report.
Wednesday, 9 July 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eighth report.
Monday, 13 October 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2014-1467
Sunday, 9 November 2014
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Taverne | 756 c441GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Taverne

55: After Clause 60, insert the following new Clause—

“Pr...

Lord Taverne | 756 cc441-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not having taken part in the discussions on this very welcome Bill but ...


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Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 c444GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Taverne, raised some interesting issues. However, I am slightly di...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 c444GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Taverne, makes a persuasive argument, to which I listened with gre...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc444-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by reassuring noble Lords that a statutory framework for the use of units of me...

Lord Taverne | 756 c445GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the suggestion by the noble Lord, Lord Harris, that one might look at broader...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 c446GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

55A: Clause 62, page 36, line 24, at end ins...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 cc446-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 55A, which is in the name of my noble friend Lord Stevenson and mys...

Baroness Drake | 756 cc448-450GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 56FA and 56FB. These amendments are not about extending consumer r...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc450-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is the first amendment to Part 2 of the Bill covering unfair terms, so allow me to...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that response. As she says, this is the first time that we hav...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

56ZA: Schedule 2, page 56, line 21, at end i...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 cc452-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 56ZA, which stands in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Stevenson, dea...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc454-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments also relate to Schedule 2 covering the grey list, containing terms whi...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 c456GC (Link to this contribution)

I am not certain about the flexibility point, because both amendments use the words “without a va...

Baroness Thornton | 756 c456GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

56B: Schedule 2, page 57, line 2, at end insert—

“20...

Baroness Thornton | 756 cc456-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an amendment to Part 1 of Schedule 2 which seeks to add three sub-paragraphs. T...

Lord Deben | 756 cc457-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that the Minister will listen to this very carefully. I will repeat for her inte...

Lord Best | 756 cc458-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 56B. I was approached by the Internet Telephony Servi...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 756 c459GC (Link to this contribution)

Briefly, I lend my support to this amendment. Most of the points have already been made but where...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc459-460GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Deben, says that this is a tricky issue and he is clearly right. One of the ...

Baroness Thornton | 756 c460GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister and the noble Lords, Lord Deben and Lord Best, for their remarks.

I wa...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 c460GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

56C: Schedule 2, page 57, line 2, at end ins...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 cc460-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 56C, I shall speak also to Amendment 56FD, both of which also stand...

Baroness Jolly | 756 c462GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may reassure noble Lords that where conflict of interest is an issue in particular sect...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 cc462-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her reply. I have worked on referral fees a lot and of course this is no...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 c463GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness King of Bow

56FC: Clause 64, page 38, line 20, at end insert “, tak...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 cc463-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 56FC and 56G are in my name and those of my noble friends Lady Hayter and Lo...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc465-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, let me take each of these amendments in turn. First, on Amendment 56FC, the Government ...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 c467GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister points out as a concern with Amendment 56FC that it might cause the trader problems ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c467GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

57: Schedule 3, page 61, line 9, leave out sub-paragr...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c467GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment was recommended by the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee ...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 756 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stoneham of Droxford

57A: After Clause 76, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 756 cc468-470GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak on behalf of my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones, who has commitments in China t...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc470-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was aware that the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, was abroad because I have been in ...

Baroness Jolly | 756 c472GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones for tabling these amendments and to my other ...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 756 c472GC (Link to this contribution)

Is my noble friend saying that in recognising the issue, the department is prepared to initiate s...

Baroness Jolly | 756 c472GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes, there was a meeting and the outcome was agreement from the creative industries to provide ev...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 756 c472GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, that is a separate issue. That is on parasitic brands. I am sorry to confuse my noble...

Baroness Jolly | 756 c472GC (Link to this contribution)

I will drop my noble friend a line. I am sorry, that has thrown me. I was given this and told exa...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc472-3GC (Link to this contribution)

Just to pick that up and endorse it, in my researches for today I just happened to check back in ...

Baroness Jolly | 756 c473GC (Link to this contribution)

We can clarify this. The noble Viscount, Lord Younger, had a meeting to discuss this and we have ...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 756 c473GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for her comments. I apologise for interrupting, but I am grateful for the...

Baroness Jolly | 756 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jolly

58: Schedule 5, page 72, line 8, at end insert—

“sectio...

Baroness Jolly | 756 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want the requirement for letting agents to publicise their fees to come into effect i...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

I rise to say “well done”. I should warn the Minister that we will have other amendments on letti...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lady sits down, perhaps I can say thank you to her.

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 756 c475GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville

60: Schedule 5, page 80, line 11,...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 756 cc475-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 60, 61, 62, 63 and 63ZA. As noble Lords know, my noble frien...

Baroness Crawley | 756 c477GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for her interesting description of going out with local auth...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 cc477-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I am slightly confused by this. If I am completely honest, among friends and just within these fo...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc478-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Bakewell for her very interesting comments and good exampl...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 756 c480GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for her comments and I am slightly reassured. I am grateful for the reass...

Lord Best | 756 c480GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Best

62A: Schedule 5, page 80, line 14, leave out sub-paragraphs (3) to...

Lord Best | 756 cc480-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as a vice-president of the Trading Standards Institute, a post I ...

Baroness Crawley | 756 cc482-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the amendment in the names of my noble friend Lady Hayter and the nob...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 cc483-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I repeat my declaration of interest as chair of National Trading Standards. Will the Mi...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 cc486-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at Second Reading and at the start of this Committee I said that this was not a bad Bil...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc488-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Best, for provoking a wide-ranging and thoughtful debate. ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 c489GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt her, but can the Minister tell us why it is more costly for a business to...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc489-490GC (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord would bear with me, I have an example which we can debate.

While we share...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 c490GC (Link to this contribution)

It is then reasonable for a local authority to invoke that grounds of reasonable suspicion if, fo...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc490-1GC (Link to this contribution)

In my opinion, that is reasonable if there is a suspicion—for example, if trading standards offic...

Baroness Crawley | 756 c491GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness mentioned that when it comes to a new business, there would be a power for tra...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c491GC (Link to this contribution)

It means observing as though the officer was a member of the public, but obviously a test purchas...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 c491GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may press this point a little because it is important and getting to the root of the is...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c492GC (Link to this contribution)

As my noble friend the Chief Whip has just mentioned, you must have some sense of proportionality...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 c492GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the noble Baroness, but perhaps I may give a specific example. There is a...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c492GC (Link to this contribution)

I can reassure the noble Lord on that point. There is of course another exemption on the grounds ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc492-4GC (Link to this contribution)

The officers would be looking for a faulty electrical product that might be in circulation in an ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 756 c493GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness said that the balance is between civil liberties and business. Unfortunately, ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c493GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness. Perhaps she will also read Hansard on these points. We carried out an...

Lord Best | 756 cc493-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was a powerful exchange all round. Clearly, this is an issue of great interest and...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 cc495-6GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness King of Bow

63ZAA: Clause 79, page 42, line 39, at end insert—

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Baroness King of Bow | 756 cc496-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I finally rise to speak to Amendment 63ZAA, in the names of my noble friends Lady Hayte...

Baroness Crawley | 756 cc497-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment and her very important call for a government revi...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 cc498-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is probably a helpful amendment from my noble friend. The reason I say “probably” ...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc499-500GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on behalf of the team I thank the noble Baroness, Lady King of Bow, for her kind words ...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 cc500-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her reply and other noble Lords who have taken part in this sh...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 c501GC (Link to this contribution)

I was very lucky. He said I got two of the questions right; perhaps a 66% ranking is not too bad....

Baroness King of Bow | 756 c501GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness King of Bow

63AA: After Clause 79, insert the following new Clause—...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 cc501-2GC (Link to this contribution)

In moving Amendment 63AA, I shall speak also to Amendment 105J in the names of my noble friends L...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc502-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for highlighting both the work that we are doing on the impl...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 c503GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if this implementation group is to take on so many of the issues that we have raised in...

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