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Infrastructure Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Tuesday, 15 July 2014, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Kramer.
Lords committee stage fourth day. Clauses 21 to 24 agreed to, with clause 22 agreed to as amended. Schedule 4 agreed to as amended.
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2014-15
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Committee stage
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House of Lords Grand Committee
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee second report.
Wednesday, 25 June 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. third report.
Wednesday, 9 July 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2014-1154
Tuesday, 22 July 2014
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House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2014-1153
Tuesday, 22 July 2014
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House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Tope | 755 c211GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Tope

84: Clause 21, page 22, line 21, at end insert “or GLA”

Lord Tope | 755 cc211-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Before I move the amendment, I wonder whether it would be appropriate to offer congratulations, i...


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Lord Jenkin of Roding | 755 cc212-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend will recollect that I raised this point at Second Reading on 18 June at...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 cc213-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer, on her extended role during the course ...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c214GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to stand here in the place of my noble friend Lady Stowell. I join the...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 755 c214GC (Link to this contribution)

I perhaps should have mentioned earlier that shortly before coming to the Committee, I had an urg...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c215GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Jenkin of Roding, makes clear that there are complexities in all this. We do...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c215GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister expand on what she said because I am not quite following? I can see that there ...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c215GC (Link to this contribution)

I say to the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, that I will go back to the department and ask whether we ...

Lord Tope | 755 c216GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Jenkin and, in absentia, the noble Lord, Lord Bes...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c216GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

84A: Clause 21, page 22, line 21, at end insert “or l...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c216GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a probing amendment and it has been suggested to us by the Local Government Ass...

Lord Smith of Leigh | 755 c217GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in some ways the north-west is ahead of the game in handing over land to the HCA. When ...

Lord Tope | 755 c217GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, said that this had been introduced as a probing amendmen...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 755 c218GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was relieved to hear the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, say that this was a probing amend...

Baroness Kramer | 755 cc218-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is some intimidating experience from quite a number of your Lordships, which I can...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 cc219-220GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for that response; frankly, it is more generous than I had anticipated. I...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c220GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

85B: Clause 21, page 22, line 24, at end insert “prov...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 cc220-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 86, 87 and 88, while my noble friend Lady Royall will ...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 755 cc221-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendment 89. I apologise for not having spoken at Second Reading bu...

Bishop of St Albans | 755 cc223-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, an interest in forestry has brought me along today. I am hugely grateful to the noble B...

Baroness Kramer | 755 cc224-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I am sure that no discourtesy was intended to the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, o...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c226GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for intervening on the Minister but I wonder if we can clear that up, as it is before...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c226GC (Link to this contribution)

I think that a better way to express it is that where they have been overridden by the HCA, the G...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c227GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful; that is helpful. It is what I understood the position to be likely to be—that thir...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c227GC (Link to this contribution)

That was the issue at dispute. My understanding is that they cannot create. I am now looking for ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c227GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for that detailed response. I accept that there are some points on ...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c227GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I might make a small correction for the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, because I want to be a...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 cc227-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful and perhaps we could have some follow-up on that as well, if necessary. I also acce...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for bobbing up constantly but the noble Lord will understand that I am trying to catc...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

We need to think about that. Is it the Minister for the DCLG in all cases, wherever the land was ...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

That is the understanding that has just been passed to me.

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that. It is news to me but it is helpful to have it. I should like to press aga...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel that at this point we have given real clarity on this issue. As I say, this mech...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have reached the stage where it is necessary to withdraw the amendment but I cannot ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c229GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

90: Clause 21, page 24, line 4, leave out paragraphs ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c229GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a straightforward amendment that would require the regulations specifying publi...

Baroness Kramer | 755 cc229-230GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I gather from general conversation that there are many arm’s-length bodies—certainly se...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c230GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think I am convinced. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Baroness Kramer | 755 c230GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Kramer

91A: Clause 22, page 24, line 24, leave out “(8)” and insert...

Baroness Kramer | 755 cc230-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, maximising the release of surplus public sector land is critical to supporting the Gove...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c231GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that I am happy with this. Do I understand that it relates just to dealing with...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 755 c231GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, while my noble friend is contemplating the answer to that, she wrote to me about this i...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c231GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am looking to make sure that I have some advice on this. However, it is my understand...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for her explanation. I think that I have got it but I want to make ...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I might write to the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, on that issue because I think that I am g...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 755 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

I am full of admiration for the way that my noble friend is dealing with this, having had to come...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Kramer

91B: Clause 22, page 24, line 38, at end insert—

“(8A)...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 cc232-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there will be a subsequent debate in respect of Clause 24 so I will speak generally to ...

Lord Tope | 755 cc235-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I confess to relative ignorance on the subject of the Land Registry, so I have been try...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 755 cc236-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend will remember that at Second Reading I raised rather similar anxieties ...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c238GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall reply first to the comment from my noble friend Lord Jenkin of Roding that the ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c238GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise; did the Minister say that it was 38 days for Camden?

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c240GC (Link to this contribution)

Was that the local land charge search or the CON29 search?

Baroness Kramer | 755 cc240-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My understanding is that it is the local land charge search, not the CON29 search, but we have ha...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c242GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response. I am disappointed but not surprised by the posit...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c242GC (Link to this contribution)

I feel very comfortable in replying that the Government’s response on this topic makes it clear t...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 cc243-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that. I think that I heard the words “during this Parliament” and I understand ...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c245GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Kramer

92: Schedule 4, page 65, line 24, after “5” insert “or 6 or ...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c245GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are two minor and technical amendments to paragraph 3 of Schedule 4. These are to...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c245GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Kramer

93: Schedule 4, page 65, line 36, at end insert “;

“re...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 cc245-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had a substantive debate on the Government’s proposals for the Land Registry an...

Baroness Kramer | 755 cc246-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 24 gives wider powers to the Land Registry to enable it to play a greater role i...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 cc247-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her reply but perhaps I may just be clear. Does she consider that what i...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c248GC (Link to this contribution)

Is this a question about whether we are intending to change the commercial model of the Land Regi...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c248GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that. I do not want to make a meal of this but perhaps I may ask for a f...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c248GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can be clear. The whole issue of the model, by which I assume the noble Lord means owne...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 755 c248GC (Link to this contribution)

I take the model to be in the sense of not only the corporate structure but the separation of the...

Baroness Kramer | 755 c248GC (Link to this contribution)

I have an assurance that they are not linked.

Lord Popat | 755 c248GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that this may be a convenient time for the Committee to adjourn.

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