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Transparency of Lobbying, Non-Party Campaigning and Trade Union Administration Bill

Lords committee stage fourth day. Clauses 29 to 44 agreed to. Schedule 4 agreed to. Bill reported without amendment. Part 2 of 2.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
750 cc1328-1386 
Session
2013-14
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 cc1328-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in putting my name down to oppose Clause 29 standing part of the Bill, I hope that the ...

Baroness Mallalieu | 750 c1329 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is also down to oppose the question that Clause 29 stand part. We had some powe...


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Lord Cormack | 750 cc1329-1330 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also put my name down here. I apologise to your Lordships for not being able to parti...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 cc1330-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear the message. The current provisions of the Political Parties, Elections and Refe...

Lord Tyler | 750 c1331 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Tyler

170H: After Clause 29, insert the following new Clause—

“Th...

Lord Tyler | 750 cc1331-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have tabled this proposed new clause with my colleagues, my noble friends Lady Willia...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 cc1333-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendment 170M. First of all, the charities and campaigning groups h...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 750 cc1334-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my support for Amendment 170H, to which my name is attached. As my noble friend L...

Baroness Mallalieu | 750 c1335 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is on Amendment 170M. This issue creates a number of problems, some of which ha...

Lord Ramsbotham | 750 c1336 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to the amendment. I have done so in relation to the organisations ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 750 c1336 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is little wonder that there is so much concern in the charitable and voluntary se...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 cc1336-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should like to emphasise the challenge posed to coalition working by the present PPER...

Earl of Sandwich | 750 c1337 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have already expressed my concerns about the smaller charities and the noble Lord, Lo...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 750 cc1337-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the last example given by the noble Earl, Lord Sandwich, is a really powerful one and i...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 cc1339-1341 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, from almost every meeting I took part in with charities or representatives of NGOs, I w...

Lord Tyler | 750 cc1341-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister but also to others who contributed because, if we have done no...

Lord Hardie | 750 c1342 (Link to this contribution)

Can I just clarify the noble Lord’s comments about the Electoral Commission, as I did not fully u...

Lord Tyler | 750 c1342 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am so sorry if I did not make that clear. Since the 2000 Act it has become increasing...

Lord Hardie | 750 cc1342-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hardie

170J: After Clause 29, insert the following new Clause—

“P...

Lord Hardie | 750 cc1343-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak also to Amendment 170K. Both amendments introduce new clauses into the Bil...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 cc1344-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hardie. Amendment 175 picks...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 750 cc1346-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hardie, for his amendments and I welc...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 cc1347-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 170J, tabled by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hardie, would require the El...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 c1348 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble and learned friend moves on, may I ask him a question? When he was speaking so en...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 c1348 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that that is entirely how I see it; my point was that whatever is produced should b...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 750 c1348 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble and learned Lord says, he cannot give directions. However, if the measure ...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 cc1348-1350 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously, if Parliament wishes that to be the case and the measure is included in the Bill, we w...

Lord Hardie | 750 c1350 (Link to this contribution)

I have certainly found the debate helpful. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 c1350 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Harries of Pentregarth

170L: After Clause 30, insert the following new ...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 cc1350-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a blessedly simple and straightforward amendment. It would reduce the regulator...

Lord Ramsbotham | 750 c1351 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have put my name to this amendment and also added Amendment 170P in the spirit of wha...

Lord Tyler | 750 cc1351-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the argument does appear to be very simple. I wish it was so. I will illustrate the com...

Lord Deben | 750 c1352 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am hoping to be seduced. There is a kernel to this that is more important than the de...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 750 cc1352-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not going to repeat the points that have been made, which in part arise from two i...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 cc1353-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries of Pentregarth, has proposed an amendme...

Earl of Sandwich | 750 c1354 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can the noble and learned Lord explain why he always goes back to parity with political...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 c1354 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am happy to explain that. The very nature of the expenditure that will fall to be cov...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 c1354 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Deben, for his support in principle for reducing the regul...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 c1355 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Harries of Pentregarth

170N: After Clause 30, insert the following new ...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 c1355 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is about reporting requirements, and I shall speak also about the two cl...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 cc1355-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have tabled a couple of amendments in this group. They follow the line of attack of t...

Lord Deben | 750 c1357 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will say one thing. I am very puzzled by the way in which, almost every day in our de...

Lord Berkeley of Knighton | 750 c1357 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, may I add a small rider to what the noble Lord, Lord Deben, has just said? I have been ...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 750 c1358 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 174. As my noble friend Lord Hodgson said, it relates to our earlie...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 750 c1358 (Link to this contribution)

On this side we very much support getting rid of red tape for small organisations. I think that i...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 cc1358-1360 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 170N would insert a new clause that would remove the requirement for recognis...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 c1359 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his response. It is probably the most positive response we have had this...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 c1359 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts

171: Clause 31, page 24, line 39, at end inse...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 cc1359-1362 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 172. It is with some relief that I reassure the Committ...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 c1362 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 31 is entitled, “Notification requirements for recognised third bodies”. My plea...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 750 cc1362-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in respect of the amendments in the name of my noble friend Lord Hodgson, I have some f...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 c1363 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, it is crystal clear in the case of company directors and lawyers w...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 750 c1363 (Link to this contribution)

I tried to explain what would be the case with unincorporated associations but, given what the no...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 c1363 (Link to this contribution)

It is the fate of those of us who scrutinise legislation to spend most of our time pushing agains...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 750 c1363 (Link to this contribution)

I have a note that includes the CIOs. We will be looking into this issue, including the Scottish ...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 c1363 (Link to this contribution)

It is therefore with great pleasure that I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Campbell-Savours | 750 c1364 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Campbell-Savours (Lab)

176: After Clause 35, insert the following new C...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 750 cc1364-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 177. Amendment 176 is an attempt to reduce some of the ...

Lord Tyler | 750 cc1366-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was delighted to be able to put my name to this amendment, which indeed has cross-par...

Lord Marland | 750 cc1367-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also support the amendment. I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, f...

Lord Cormack | 750 c1368 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly in support of my three noble colleagues. The noble Lord, Lord Camp...

Lord Finkelstein | 750 c1369 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not having spoken at Second Reading, when I was not present, and I decl...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 750 c1369 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord know by how much the state already funds political parties now? Does he know ...

Lord Finkelstein | 750 c1369 (Link to this contribution)

I know it is already many millions of pounds, and I am very nervous and worried about that. That ...

Lord Marland | 750 c1369 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, perhaps I could reiterate what I said earlier. The state gives p...

Lord Finkelstein | 750 c1369 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I think I would agree that it is more transparent, but the noble Lord is assuming that for t...

Lord Cormack | 750 c1370 (Link to this contribution)

Does my noble friend not accept that we are talking about voluntary donations? Nobody is going to...

Lord Finkelstein | 750 c1370 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to gain an exemption from my other duties as a taxpayer, in order to do this. It there...

Lord Deben | 750 c1370 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt, but if we are starting to talk about taxation in that form, I must say t...

Lord Finkelstein | 750 c1370 (Link to this contribution)

We are required to give money to the state to pay for all the services that we enjoy, and the ame...

Lord Deben | 750 c1370 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend has just admitted that he has a large number of charitable activities. I am very ...

Lord Finkelstein | 750 c1370 (Link to this contribution)

Being a member of a political party is not a charitable activity.

Lord Finkelstein | 750 c1370 (Link to this contribution)

If it were a charitable activity, the party would be a charity. It is not a charitable activity; ...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 750 c1371 (Link to this contribution)

In the light of these interventions, might the noble Lord not wish to revise his article on these...

Lord Finkelstein | 750 c1371 (Link to this contribution)

It is hardly to my surprise that I discover that in a group of people who are involved in politic...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 cc1371-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to add a few words. This discussion shows that in the area of political funding,...

Lord Deben | 750 c1372 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have always been an agnostic about this issue and it is rare that I agree with the no...

Lord Finkelstein | 750 c1372 (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Lord proposing that there should be a cap that accompanies this amendment? Because i...

Lord Deben | 750 c1372 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry; my noble friend misses my point. I am an agnostic on this. I am merely saying that as...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 750 c1373 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is an interesting idea in an interesting debate. I certainly do not defend the pre...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 cc1373-4 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, would like to thank the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, for raising this. Having spent...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 750 c1374 (Link to this contribution)

To illustrate the point, I was making a distinction between a monthly contribution and an annual ...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 c1374 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord for explaining that.

It will not come as any surprise that ...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 750 c1375 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not know whether to describe that as a disappointing reply. I hope that behind the...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 c1375 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts

181: After Clause 41, insert the following ne...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 cc1375-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we approach this last group for debate I shall be as brief as I can. This amendment ...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 750 cc1376-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendments 181A, 181B and 181C, which all move in the same direction...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 750 c1377 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to support what has been said by the noble and right reverend Lord and t...

Lord Cormack | 750 c1377 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we had no pre-legislative scrutiny and many of us are unhappy about the way in which th...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 750 c1378 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly say that I am in favour of both a review and the sunset clause. I also v...

Lord Alderdice | 750 c1378 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened carefully to what has been said. One of the important developments in y...

Lord Cormack | 750 c1378 (Link to this contribution)

The fact is that post-legislative scrutiny—which I am a great advocate of—is no substitute for a ...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 750 cc1378-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will very briefly say that of course we need to be aware of the effects of any legisl...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 750 c1379 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the second or maybe the third time this afternoon I can say how grateful I am to my...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 750 cc1380-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is customary at this point of the year for the Chief Whips and the Convenor to pay t...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 750 cc1381-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I echo the thanks that have been given by the noble Baroness the Chief Whip to our marv...

Lord Alderdice | 750 cc1382-4 (Link to this contribution)

One of the extremely valuable services that we all use every day in this House is Hansard, the Of...

Lord Laming | 750 cc1384-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on behalf of the Cross-Bench group, I associate myself with the warm tributes that have...

Lord Brougham and Vaux | 750 c1386 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak on behalf of the Lord Speaker and all the other Deputies. We associate ourselve...

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