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Jobseekers (Back to Work Schemes) Bill

Lords committee stage. Clauses 1 to 3 debated and agreed to on question. Bill reported without amendment. Lords report and third reading agreed without debate. Bill passed.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
744 cc917-954 
Session
2012-13
Legislative stage
Committee stage, Third reading and Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Jobseekers (Back to Work Schemes) Bill 2012-13. As brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 19 March 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0591
Wednesday, 27 March 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c917 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

1: Clause 1, page 3, line 14, at end insert “; and su...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 cc917-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 1 and 3 in this group. These are probing amendments, but I w...


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Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 cc919-921 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend in his amendments. Timely and efficient appeals systems are a...

Lord Freud | 744 cc920-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of these amendments is to ensure that the reconsiderations and appeals aris...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 744 c922 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the Minister would reconsider the language habitually used by DWP. When he talks...

Lord Freud | 744 c922 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes the same point as JRR Tolkien, who did not think that “growth” was the right...

Lord Touhig | 744 c922 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister think that “people” is a good word?

Lord Freud | 744 c923 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, but there are six billion people around. I am trying to refer to a particular group. I hope ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 cc923-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I indicated at the start that these are probing amendments. That highlights part of the...

Lord Bach | 744 c924 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bach

2: Clause 1, page 3, line 14, at end insert—

“( ) The Secret...

Lord Bach | 744 cc924-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 2 is in my name and those of my noble friends Lady Sherlock, Lady Hollis of H...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 cc926-7 (Link to this contribution)

I support the amendment of my noble friend. I have to declare a sort of interest as a former Mini...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 744 c927 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, is it not the case that every Government of the United Kingdom since 1948 have been com...

Baroness Sherlock | 744 cc927-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in responding to this amendment, I should like to pay tribute to my noble friend Lord B...

Lord Freud | 744 c928 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I deal with this amendment, I ask the Committee to indulge me as I answer a coup...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c928 (Link to this contribution)

On the point about national insurance credit, I am not sure that the Minister’s answer deals full...

Lord Goldsmith | 744 c928 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister not think that what has just taken place illustrates how wrong it was to bring ...

Lord Freud | 744 cc929-930 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I may be to blame for moving off the particular amendment. We are not having a Second R...

Lord Bach | 744 c930 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. I thank other noble Lords who have spoken, all of t...

Lord Freud | 744 c930 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may make absolutely clear the point about the numbers. There was a lot of comment from ...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 c930 (Link to this contribution)

If I may intervene, approximately 500,000 sanctions were issued last year. Something like 3,500 o...

Lord Bach | 744 c930 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may go back for a moment to the hiatus caused by the Court of Appeal decision...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 cc931-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

4: Clause 2, page 3, line 34, at end insert—

“(...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 cc933-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 4 I will speak also to Amendments 5A and 6. I look forward to heari...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 744 cc934-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 5 as well as in support of Amendment 4, moved by my noble ...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 744 c937 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I might intervene, there are several noble Lords in the Chamber who from a sedentary...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 744 cc937-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend, particularly as I am quoting from a lone mother who is very upset. She s...

Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 744 cc939-940 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as far as I am concerned this is an important debate on an important amendment and, ind...

Lord Freud | 744 cc940-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will address Amendments 4, 5, 5A and 6 together. The purpose of these amendments is t...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 c941 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not doubt the Minister’s honesty and integrity in his statements about targets at ...

Lord Freud | 744 c941 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, let me make very clear the difference between having targets, having business or manage...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 c942 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, will the Minister explain why this senior staff member—the manager of the office—told t...

Lord Freud | 744 c942 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not going to pick up a particular case because I do not have the detail on it. It ...

Lord Touhig | 744 c942 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear what the Minister has said, and he is held in high regard across the House. In v...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 c942 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister also, therefore, ensure that all DWP local offices receive the same information...

Lord Freud | 744 c942 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must repeat what I have just said. Clearly, we have internal management information. ...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 c942 (Link to this contribution)

In that case, what is the difference between coming more into line and targets?

Lord Freud | 744 c943 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lords opposite know exactly how targets operate because they operated a target regime. ...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 c943 (Link to this contribution)

What if they are incentivised by the threat of being punished?

Lord Freud | 744 c943 (Link to this contribution)

They are usually incentivised to reach targets, and we do not run a target regime. The no-targets...

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 744 c943 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I fail to understand the Minister. Surely if someone is asked to regulate their busines...

Lord Freud | 744 c943 (Link to this contribution)

The difference is that where someone is not performing in line with the rest of the business for ...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 c943 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is pivotal. This is Committee.

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 744 c943 (Link to this contribution)

It is Committee, but the Companion guides us by stating that, during any stages:

“Lengthy o...

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 744 c943 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is Committee. Many of us are deeply distressed about the Bill. To seek to curtail ...

Lord Freud | 744 cc943-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have answered the question. I will re-emphasise that we do not have targets, we have ...

Lord Rooker | 744 c944 (Link to this contribution)

At the risk of upsetting the Whip, I have a question. The Minister does not seem to have addresse...

Lord Freud | 744 c944 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not have the information on Sundays, particularly Easter Sunday. The underlying is...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 744 c944 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to intervene, but does the Minister think it is reasonable to ask a mother to come in ...

Lord Freud | 744 cc944-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, clearly, I cannot talk about examples when I am not familiar with the particular exampl...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 cc945-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I thank my noble friend Lady Lister for her support for this amendment. I believ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c946 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

5A: Clause 2, page 3, line 34, at end insert—

“...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c946 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move. I wish to test the opinion of the House.

Baroness Sherlock | 744 c947 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Sherlock

7: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause—

...

Baroness Sherlock | 744 cc947-950 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment would require the Secretary of State to prepare guidance on how claimants...

Lord Haskel | 744 c950 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must inform your Lordships that the result of Division 3 on Amendment 5A should have ...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 744 cc950-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should like to support my noble friend by saying that I am mortified about the additi...

Lord Freud | 744 cc952-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment, which would require the Secretary of State to issue guidance on the way...

Baroness Sherlock | 744 c953 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that reply and, in particular, for clarifying that it will be the sancti...

Lord Freud | 744 c953 (Link to this contribution)

If it fits the norms within which that re-compliance operates, then it will. I am not sure whethe...

Baroness Sherlock | 744 c953 (Link to this contribution)

I am not trying to be pedantic, although I confess that it is a hobby. The reason it matters in t...

Lord Freud | 744 c954 (Link to this contribution)

What I will say on the record is that we will ensure that guidance to jobcentre staff will make t...

Lord Freud | 744 c954 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we will make sure that the particular options here are laid out for jobcentre staff so ...

Baroness Sherlock | 744 c954 (Link to this contribution)

That was worth waiting for. I thank the Minister for that. I still think that this amendment is w...

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