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Growth and Infrastructure Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 12 March 2013, in the House of Lords.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
744 cc135-209 
Session
2012-13
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Growth and Infrastructure Bill 2012-13. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 6 February 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Whitaker | 744 c135 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Whitaker

35A: Clause 8, page 10, line 33, at end insert—

“( )...

Baroness Whitaker | 744 cc135-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as president of the South Downs Society. Amendment 35A is in my n...


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Baroness Hanham | 744 cc136-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Baroness has explained, the amendment has been tabled to prevent Clause 8 ...

Lord Adonis | 744 c137 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for the very great care and attention she has taken in meeti...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c137 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sure the noble Lord has seen from the other amendments that are coming up that we ...

Baroness Whitaker | 744 c137 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I echo the thanks of my noble friend Lord Adonis for the very detailed explanation by t...

Baroness Parminter | 744 c138 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Parminter

36: Clause 8, page 10, line 34, leave out subsections (2)...

Baroness Parminter | 744 c138 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 8 as it stood would have set an extremely damaging precedent, removing key prote...

Lord Judd | 744 cc138-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad to support this amendment. It seems that what we are dealing with here i...

Lord Marlesford | 744 cc139-141 (Link to this contribution)

I will just say a word in support of my noble friend’s amendment, which I have put my name to. Fi...

Lord Adonis | 744 c141 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, because the noble Baroness has a very important amendment in this group, perhaps I migh...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c141 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would be delighted to speak to Amendment 36A. I will just find it in my notes. In ess...

Lord Adonis | 744 c142 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister, and to the noble Baroness, Lady Parminter, who has ...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c142 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was remiss in not thanking noble Lords who have thanked me very graciously. I hope we...

Baroness Hanham | 744 cc142-4 (Link to this contribution)

In Committee, at the noble Lord’s suggestion, I undertook to meet representatives from the Englis...

Lord Adonis | 744 c144 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister’s explanation was clear and the position that she has taken is extremely i...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c144 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know it is not up to me to intervene again but as we come on to the next amendment it...

Baroness Parminter | 744 c145 (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Baroness Hanham | 744 c145 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hanham

36A: Clause 8, page 10, line 34, leave out subsections (2) t...

Baroness Parminter | 744 c145 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Parminter

37: Clause 8, page 12, line 4, at end insert—

“( ) ...

Baroness Parminter | 744 cc145-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we all support the deployment of broadband in rural areas, and the key for us is how be...

Lord Judd | 744 cc146-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I warmly endorse this amendment and thank the noble Baroness, Lady Parminter, for intro...

Lord Tyler | 744 c147 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support my noble friend Lady Parminter. I should say that in the past I was ...

Lord Marlesford | 744 cc147-8 (Link to this contribution)

In supporting this amendment, I underline that we are talking not only about national parks but s...

Lord Adonis | 744 cc148-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I reinforce the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, about the importance o...

Baroness Hanham | 744 cc149-151 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for moving this amendment, which gives us an opportunity to ...

Baroness Parminter | 744 c151 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for those reassurances from the Minister and for the Government’s commitm...

Lord Judd | 744 c151 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Judd

38: Clause 8, leave out Clause 8

Lord Judd | 744 c152 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, one might ask why I am moving the amendment in the light of the good exchanges we have ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 744 cc152-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have not tried to get into the discussion on Report so far. I made my view clear in C...

Lord Judd | 744 c153 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the noble Lord, who is a good friend of many years standing, might just reconsid...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 744 cc153-4 (Link to this contribution)

I was happy to give way to the noble Lord and he has confirmed what I have always regarded as one...

Lord Adonis | 744 c154 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with the very last words of the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin. I have huge admiration...

Baroness Hanham | 744 cc154-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, nobody in this House would disagree with the last remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Adoni...

Lord Judd | 744 cc156-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those who have participated in the debate on the amendment, not least the M...

Lord Shipley | 744 c157 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Shipley

39: After Clause 8, insert the following new Clause—

“Def...

Lord Shipley | 744 cc157-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment would help to solve three problems: the urgent need for more social housi...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 744 cc159-160 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, to which I have added my...

Lord Best | 744 cc160-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to give fulsome support to this amendment. It addresses an issue which is high o...

Lord Tope | 744 cc161-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is also on this amendment, which was so ably moved by my noble friend Lord Ship...

Lord Smith of Leigh | 744 cc164-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment and congratulate the four noble Lords who put their names to i...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 cc165-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we return to a local authority’s freedom to borrow for the purposes of its housing reve...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 cc166-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. I can confirm that while ce...

Lord Shipley | 744 cc168-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the unity of views across your Lordships’ House. I am very disappoint...

Lord Judd | 744 c169 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Judd

39A: After Clause 8, insert the following new Clause—

“Contr...

Lord Judd | 744 c169 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief. We have been debating the importance of these new developments in the ...

Baroness Hanham | 744 cc169-170 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was a very straightforward question from the noble Lord, and an understandable one...

Lord Judd | 744 c170 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for having said what she has said and getting it on the record. We...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 cc170-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

39B: After Clause 8, insert the following new Clause—...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c171 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we had a short but harmonious debate on an equivalent amendment in Committee, which was...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 c172 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we discussed this issue very thoroughly in Committee, as the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie,...

Lord Shipley | 744 cc172-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a question for the Minister about timing. There are three separate contributors ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c173 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. We agree with the Government about the progress of ...

Baroness Byford | 744 c173 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Byford

40A: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Byford | 744 cc173-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 40D standing in my name. I apologise for my voice, whic...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c177 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, we cannot support the amendment moved by the noble Baroness. It is a restricti...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 cc177-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for tabling the amendment and particularly for taking the time,...

Baroness Byford | 744 c178 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend on the Front Bench. Clearly I am disappointed that the noble Lo...

Lord Tope | 744 c178 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Tope

40B: Clause 13, page 15, line 35, at end insert—

“(6A) Regul...

Lord Tope | 744 cc178-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Greaves found today that he was unable to get to London and asked ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c179 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Tope, who seems overnight to have inherited the expertise of the n...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 cc179-180 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank and of course commend my noble friend for his admirable performance in imitatin...

Lord Tope | 744 c180 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister. I reassure the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, that I most certainly h...

Lord Tope | 744 c180 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Tope

40C: Clause 14, page 17, leave out line 9

Lord Tope | 744 cc180-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise once again to move on behalf of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, Amendment 40C and ...

Lord Best | 744 c183 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I urge caution about accepting the amendments tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. A...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 cc183-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I say to the noble Lord, Lord Best, that we acknowledge that the system left its...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 cc184-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, once again, I thank my noble friend for his sterling performance as my noble friend Lor...

Lord Tope | 744 c185 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. I reassure the noble Lord, Lord Best, that it is n...

Baroness Byford | 744 c186 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Byford

40D: Clause 14, page 17, line 21, leave out “of two years”

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 c186 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

41: Clause 14, page 17, line 26, at end insert—

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 cc186-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 41 to 45 to Clause 14 and also to Amendments 54 and 56 to 58...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 c187 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

42: Schedule 4, page 47, line 38, column 1, leave ou...

Lord True | 744 c187 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord True

46: After Clause 15, insert the following new Clause—

“Devel...

Lord True | 744 cc187-190 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not be moving Amendment 46AA; it represents an attempt to offer a compromise to ...

Lord Tope | 744 cc188-191 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment. He referred to the fact that he is, in another l...

Earl of Lytton | 744 cc191-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the thrust of this amendment because my professional work puts me at the shar...

Lord Elton | 744 c194 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am really rather appalled by what the Government are proposing and largely reassured ...

Lord Trefgarne | 744 c194 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to your Lordships that I was not in my place when my noble friend Lord True...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 cc194-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to this amendment and we are wholly supportive of it. We have hear...

Baroness Hanham | 744 cc195-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear what the noble Lord has said and what my noble friend has said in moving the ame...

Lord Elton | 744 c196 (Link to this contribution)

Such conversations very often do happen and they result in almost open warfare. They do not often...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c196 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend said “benefit to the developer”. The development is limited to the curt...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 744 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but this is just agony. What are the origins of this proposal? It was not in the coal...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this policy is being put forward to extend the localism rights that we have been moving...

Lord Trefgarne | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am afraid my noble friend is living in a world of her own. I will show her some corre...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear what the noble Lord says. Consultation on this matter closed in December. We hav...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

Has there been some analysis of the consultation thus far, and, if so, might we get at least a fi...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think not. I have been told that it will be available before secondary legislation.

Lord Adonis | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

What is the big problem about analysing 1,000 responses in time to allow your Lordships’ House to...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, they will be ready before secondary legislation. If they can be ready at any stage befo...

Lord Trefgarne | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when does my noble friend propose to introduce the secondary legislation?

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

I remind noble Lords that we are on Report and there are specific rules which should be borne in ...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for that. The consultation will be available within the next fe...

Lord Hunt of Chesterton | 744 c197 (Link to this contribution)

Is there some limit to the height? In many gardens, the most important things are wind and lighti...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 c198 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have to remind noble Lords that we are on Report, not in Committee. As your Lordships...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c198 (Link to this contribution)

The answer to the question about the extent is that it is limited to a single storey and within t...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c198 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, she has not dealt with the point about the criteria that guide the...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c198 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not have a response to that. I would need to take advice on it. If I can come back...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c198 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister come back at Third Reading if she is not able to do so beforehand?

Baroness Hanham | 744 c198 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am advised that there has not been an update, so I presume that that guidance would b...

Lord True | 744 cc199-200 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those who have spoken in the debate, which has been a little one-sided perh...

Baroness Donaghy | 744 c200 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Donaghy

46A: After Clause 15, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Donaghy | 744 cc200-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 46A, I make it clear that I am in full support of Amendment 46 move...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 744 c201 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the circumstances, I shall speak just briefly and thank my noble friend Lady Donaghy...

Baroness Hanham | 744 c202 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Donaghy, and the noble Lord, Lord Tope, who has not sp...

Baroness Donaghy | 744 c202 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response and my noble friend Lord McKenzie for his support. I will w...

Lord Berkeley | 744 c203 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

46B: Clause 21, page 22, line 31, at end insert—

“(4A) I...

Lord Berkeley | 744 cc203-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 55, which is grouped with Amendment 46B. I asked for th...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 744 c206 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I added my name to these amendments. The noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, has dealt with them...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 cc207-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when we considered this amendment in Committee I indicated that the Government were tak...

Lord Berkeley | 744 c209 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, I asked him whether he had any evidence of consultation or anyth...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 744 c209 (Link to this contribution)

If I may, I will write to the noble Lord about that.

Lord Berkeley | 744 c209 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for his comprehensive answer. I shall certainly need to read very c...

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