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Public Service Pensions Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 12 February 2013, in the House of Lords.
New clause agreed to. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 86).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
743 cc597-631 
Session
2012-13
Department
Treasury
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Public Service Pensions Bill 2012-13. As amended in Committee.
Monday, 21 January 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Newby | 743 c597 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Newby

9: Clause 5, page 3, line 4, at end insert “(or each scheme manag...

Lord Newby | 743 cc597-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will start with government Amendments 10 and 11, which would require equal numbers of...


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Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 743 c598 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on this side welcome the amendments. The Minister gave a commitment to the House whi...

Lord Sharkey | 743 cc598-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak briefly in support of Amendments 9, 10 and 11. I raised the issue of memb...

Lord Newby | 743 c599 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

10: Clause 5, page 3, line 26, leave out paragraph (c) and insert...

Lord Newby | 743 c599 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

12: Clause 7, page 4, line 10, leave out from “Where” to “in” in ...

Lord Eatwell | 743 c599 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Eatwell

14: Clause 8, page 5, line 4, at end insert—

“(3A) A sche...

Lord Eatwell | 743 c600 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment, which is a reprise of something that we debated in Committee, derives f...

Lord Newby | 743 cc600-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is indeed a reprise of a debate which we had in Committee. I believe that the Gove...

Lord Eatwell | 743 c601 (Link to this contribution)

That was an intriguing reply. The usual reply in circumstances where the Government feel that the...

Lord Whitty | 743 c601 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

15: Clause 9, page 5, line 22, leave out “or decrease”

Lord Whitty | 743 cc602-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment relates to revaluation. Clause 9 appears to allow the Treasury to change...

Lord Eatwell | 743 cc603-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I fully support the arguments put forward by my noble friend Lord Whitty, particularly ...

Lord Newby | 743 cc604-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we are debating a group that started with an amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord...

Lord Whitty | 743 cc605-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for at least part of that response. I also thank him for the clari...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 743 c606 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kennedy of Southwark

18: Clause 10, page 6, line 2, after “be” insert “...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 743 cc606-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 10 imposes a normal pension age of 60 on firefighters as well as on police and m...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 743 c608 (Link to this contribution)

I think that probably all noble Lords have had a most interesting letter from the general secreta...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 743 c608 (Link to this contribution)

I think the noble Lord is absolutely right that there is a difference in fitness. That is the pro...

Lord Eatwell | 743 cc608-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are also in this group a pair of amendments in my name and that of my noble and l...

Baroness Hollins | 743 cc609-610 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 19 and 20, which aim to ensure greater flexibility in the Bill wit...

Lord Newby | 743 cc610-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as regards Amendment 18, we are aware of, and greatly respect, the hard work done by th...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 743 c613 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his response. I am happy to withdraw the amendment, but it is a bit odd ...

Lord Eatwell | 743 c613 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Eatwell

20: Clause 10, page 6, line 14, at end insert—

“(4B) The...

Lord Eatwell | 743 c613 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister has said that, with respect to the notion of the review, the Government wi...

Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 743 c614 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Davidson of Glen Clova

21: After Clause 10, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 743 c614 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment, dealing with the fair deal, covers a lot of common ground. But rather a...

Lord Whitty | 743 cc614-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak now according to the convention, although it may be more logical for the Govern...

Lord Newby | 743 cc615-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start with the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Whitty. As he says, the LGPS differs...

Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 743 c617 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have indicated in relation to the government amendments that elucidation would be gra...

Lord Whitty | 743 c617 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

24: Clause 12, page 8, line 2, at end insert—

“(10) This s...

Lord Whitty | 743 cc617-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry if this amendment appears to be another bit of LGPS exceptionalism but I hop...

Lord Newby | 743 c619 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that I can go at least some way in giving the noble Lord the reassurances that he seeks. T...

Lord Whitty | 743 c619 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister, who clearly recognises the cost-management system that w...

Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 743 c620 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Davidson of Glen Clova

25: Clause 18, page 10, line 25, after “scheme” ...

Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 743 c620 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the aim of the amendment is to push back to 2016 the relative closing date for the Scot...

Lord Newby | 743 cc620-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of the amendment is extremely straightforward, and the noble and learned Lo...

Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 743 c621 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened carefully to what the Minister has said. It may be that the Scottish Government a...

Lord Newby | 743 c621 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Newby

26: Schedule 5, page 32, line 27, at end insert—

“6A A sche...

Lord Newby | 743 c621 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

27: Schedule 6, page 34, line 18, at end insert—

“1A A sche...

Lord Newby | 743 c621 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

28: Schedule 7, page 36, leave out lines 14 and 15 and insert—

Lord Newby | 743 cc621-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these are minor amendments that have been urged on us by scheme members. They increase ...

Lord Whitty | 743 c623 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is complicated territory. The way in which the Minister described the implications...

Lord Newby | 743 c623 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we realise that there is concern about the potential costs involved in this policy, but...

Lord Newby | 743 c624 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Newby

29: Schedule 7, page 36, leave out lines 41 to 43 and insert—

...
Lord Newby | 743 c624 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

32: Clause 22, page 11, line 34, leave out from “period” to end o...

Lord Newby | 743 cc624-5 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

36: After Clause 22, insert the following new Clause—

“Proc...

Lord Newby | 743 c625 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

40: Clause 23, page 12, line 34, leave out paragraph (b) and inse...

Lord Newby | 743 cc625-6 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

42: Clause 24, page 13, line 19, leave out subsections (6) and (7...

Lord Newby | 743 c626 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

44: Clause 25, page 13, line 32, leave out “persons to whom the s...

Lord Newby | 743 cc626-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I turn to two government amendments to Clause 25. Amendment 44 is intended to remove an...

Lord Whitty | 743 c627 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I simply thank the Minister for tabling these amendments. Amendment 45 in particular cl...

Lord Newby | 743 c627 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Newby

45: Clause 25, page 13, line 32, at end insert—

“( ) Subsec...

Lord Newby | 743 c627 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Newby

46: Schedule 8, page 40, line 36, at end insert—

“15A In se...

Lord Newby | 743 cc627-8 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Newby

48: Schedule 8, page 42, line 37, at end insert—

“Legal Aid...

Lord Newby | 743 c628 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment rectifies a small oversight that occurred as a result of the large numbe...

Lord Dubs | 743 cc628-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Dubs

50: Before Clause 35, insert the following new Clause—

“Amen...

Lord Dubs | 743 cc629-630 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment stems from the situation that arose on 31 March 2010 when Jarvis, a rail ...

Lord Newby | 743 cc630-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord has explained, his concern relates to a situation that has arisen for...

Lord Dubs | 743 c631 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has given me a fairly complicated explanation and I think I would not be out of orde...

Lord Newby | 743 c631 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Newby

51: Clause 36, page 20, line 26, after “Service” insert “or the L...

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