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Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 28 January 2013, in the House of Lords.
Clauses 65 and 66 agreed to. Clause 67 agreed to as amended. Clause 68 under consideration when Committee adjourned.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
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Session
2012-13
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill 2012-13. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 18 October 2012
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0197
Wednesday, 30 January 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0275
Monday, 11 February 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc430-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support Amendment 28DZB, and I shall also speak to Amendment 28EB. More part...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 742 c401GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I remind the Committee that in the event of a Division in the Chamber the Committee wil...


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Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 c401GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Jenkin of Roding

28C: Before Clause 65, insert the following new Clause...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 cc401-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this proposed new clause calls for a new appointment of a director-general of intellect...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc402-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak first to Amendment 28C and then to my own Amendment 28D. I support the ame...

Baroness Buscombe | 742 cc407-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 28C, following my noble friends Lord Jenkin of Roding...

Lord Smith of Finsbury | 742 cc408-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support very strongly both the new clauses in front of us, but especially that propos...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 cc409-410GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I enter a note of caution. I feel as strongly as everyone else about the importance of ...

Lord Lucas | 742 cc410-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join the noble Lord, Lord Howarth, in everything that he said. It is important that t...

Baroness Morris of Yardley | 742 cc411-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I support Amendments 28C and 28D, and draw the Committee's attention to my entry in the Register ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc413-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been a very good debate, and it has got us off to a very good start this afterno...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc414-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, as a Scot, I recognise with a little pride the Scottish historical links with in...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c416GC (Link to this contribution)

I will respond briefly and leave my noble friend Lord Jenkin to respond to the main amendment. I ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 cc416-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, contrary to the figures in front of us on the chart, we have actually spent over an hou...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c418GC (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, I hope that it is in order briefly to answer my noble friend Lo...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc418-9GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

28DZA: Before Clause 65, insert the following ne...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc419-422GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 28DZD.

One of the difficulties about discussing t...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc422-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 28DZA in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson. I agreed with ...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 cc423-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend has done well to raise the question of metadata in his amendment. I thi...

Viscount Bridgeman | 742 cc424-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a director of the Bridgeman Art Library, of which my wife is t...

Baroness Brinton | 742 cc425-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the permission of the Grand Committee, I shall speak sitting down.

I shall s...

Earl of Erroll | 742 cc426-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I not sure why these two amendments have been grouped together because they are complet...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc427-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 28DZA would introduce a provision into the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc428-9GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank all those who contributed to the debate. I am glad we got to the heart of it very quickly...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c429GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

28DZB: Before Clause 65, insert the following ne...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc429-432GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak also to the other two amendments in the group which are in effect variations on a t...

Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 742 cc434-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are concerns about the impact of Clause 65 on designers and manufacturers, but th...

Viscount Bridgeman | 742 c435GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to Amendment 28DZB, which has been so ably covered by the two movers of the ame...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 c435GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 28DZB. My noble friend Lord Stevenson of Balmacara has explained to...

Baroness Brinton | 742 cc435-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I particularly support the comments made just now by the noble Baroness, Lady Warwick, ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c436GC (Link to this contribution)

I want to respond very briefly to my noble friend. This amendment is intended for an entirely dif...

Baroness Brinton | 742 c436GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend for that clarification.

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc436-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 28DZB and 28EB are intended to ensure that artistic works can continue to be...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c438GC (Link to this contribution)

Briefly, my Lords, if I may, I understand everything that the Minister has said, but I was a bit ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c438GC (Link to this contribution)

I have listened carefully to my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones on these matters and have taken n...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c439GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to everyone who has contributed to this debate. We all broadly sung much ...

Baroness Whitaker | 742 c440GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Whitaker

28DA: Clause 65, page 61, line 8, at end insert—

“( ...

Baroness Whitaker | 742 cc440-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments is about Clause 65 as it affects the creators of the work and ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 c441GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I added my name to the noble Baroness’s amendment. I, too, have had representations fro...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 cc441-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I oppose these amendments. It seems to me that the extension of copyright design from 2...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c442GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to Amendments 28E and 28F. The Government, and indeed the IPO, published a fact...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c443GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 28DA seeks to ensure that copyright is revived in works of artistic craftsman...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc443-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall intervene only briefly. It is good news to hear that there is an impact assessment on bus...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c444GC (Link to this contribution)

I can only reiterate to my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones that we are committed to continuing to...

Baroness Whitaker | 742 c444GC (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin of Roding, and all others who spoke—even my nob...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c444GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

28FB: Clause 66, page 61, leave out lines 15 to ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc444-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as originally drafted and debated in another place, this clause equipped the Government...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc445-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support the amendments put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson. The st...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c446GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 28FB and 28JAA cover the scope of Clause 66. The Government recognise that c...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c447GC (Link to this contribution)

I always get up when there is something to object to, but in this case I will thank the Minister ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c447GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, he does not give me much leeway, does he? I thank him very much, and I withdraw the ame...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c447GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

28G: Clause 66, page 61, line 29, after “containing” inse...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc447-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 28G, 28H and 28J. I will not speak to Amendment 28JA, but I ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 742 cc448-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak briefly to Amendment 28JA. The noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, and I ha...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 c449GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, is the most diligent of parliamentarians. If he has not be...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc449-450GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my thoughts to those that have already been expressed about these issues and have...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc450-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will deal with Amendments 28G, 28H and 28J first. These amendments are all interconne...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c451GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think we are on a bit of a roll. We had better stay here for the rest of the evening ...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord not think that we should be asking a little more from the Minister? We should...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

That is a very fair formulation. Certainly, I was also reassured that the Minister confirmed that...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

That is not exactly how I see it. I confirm that we do not want to prejudge any consideration. Th...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister just said that there will be no presumption on bundling, which is a very u...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I could just clarify the situation by saying that there is no intention to deliberately b...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister. So if I see deliberate bundling, we will know that this is completely wrong...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

28JB: Clause 67, page 62, line 20, leave out from...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc452-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before introducing amendments to this clause, I should like first to set out how the pr...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc454-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister introduced his amendment very fairly but I must admit that Clause 67 still...

Baroness Brinton | 742 c455GC (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend said that museums had found that managed risk had sufficed so far. Does he recogn...

Baroness Blackstone | 742 c455GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should declare an interest as chairman of the board of the British Library. The libra...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc455-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, given the mess that we were in on what constituted bundling and whether it was directed...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c456GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords who have contributed to the debate. First, I respond to the noble Lord, Lord ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c456GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

28JC: Clause 67, page 62, line 22, after “expire”...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c456GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

28KA: Clause 68, page 63, line 7, leave out “may” and ins...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc457-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 28KA, I shall speak also to Amendments 28LA and 28LB. These amendme...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 cc458-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 28LA and 28LB, which the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, ha...

Baroness Blackstone | 742 cc459-460GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I associate myself with what my noble friend Lord Howarth has just said. He put it conc...

Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 742 c460GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, while there is a danger of me saying, “Me, too” and sitting down, I would like to reinf...

Lord Greenway | 742 cc460-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have every sympathy with the aims of the British Library, the Wellcome Foundation and...

Baroness Brinton | 742 cc461-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should like to add my voice to the “Me toos” of the noble Lord, Lord Howarth, and the...

Lord Lucas | 742 c462GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not going to give any comfort to my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones on this, I am ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc462-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I find myself in agreement with everyone except the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, on ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc463-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 28LA would limit the scope of the UK orphan works scheme to that of the EU di...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc464-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply, and other noble Lords for their not always helpful ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c465GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

28L: Clause 68, page 63, leave out lines 8 to 11 and inse...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc465-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thought that the Committee might appreciate, rather than approve, a rather different ...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 c467GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments have at least enabled us to discuss some very important issues. I want...

Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 742 cc467-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also comment on the question of diligent search. I agree that we need clarification a...

Baroness Brinton | 742 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the interests of time, I really will just say “me too”. I very much support the comm...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I realise that I failed to speak to Amendment 30, so if I may I will just finish this g...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to make it clear that we on this side support the ECL approach in general. The r...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

If I can clarify, we are still on orphan works amendments, which are designed to improve the orph...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister responds, the noble Baroness, Lady Blackstone, apologised that she had to dep...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc468-470GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments cover both the scope and detail of the proposals for a UK orphan works s...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc470-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that helpful reply. His speech will certainly need some studyi...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c471GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

28SA: Clause 68, page 63, leave out lines 29 to 31 and in...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc471-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I move this amendment on the basis that noble Lords wish to carry on beyond eight o’clo...

Baroness Buscombe | 742 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

I rise briefly, given the hour, wholly to support the amendments tabled by my noble friend Lord C...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is a mass of significant matter in these amendments. It is, perhaps, a rather unf...

Lord Greenway | 742 c475GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, reiterate what the noble Lord, Lord Howarth, said. It is entirely inappropriate...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc475-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 28WA. The key issue is whether it may be necessary to broade...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc476-480GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments seeks to add further detail or limitations on the face of the ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 c479GC (Link to this contribution)

Very briefly, because the hour is late, I echo what the noble Lord, Lord Greenway, said. It is un...

Lord Popat | 742 c479GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn.

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