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Electoral Registration and Administration Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 14 January 2013, in the House of Lords.
Clauses 6 to 12 agreed to. Schedules 3 and 5 agreed to. Schedule 4 agreed to as amended. Part 1 of 2.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
742 cc475-542 
Session
2012-13
Department
Cabinet Office
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Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Lexden | 742 c475 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lexden

25: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—

“Repr...

Lord Lexden | 742 cc475-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 25, I shall speak also to the other amendments in the group, which ...


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Lord Lipsey | 742 cc479-481 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are all grateful for the opportunity given to us by the noble Lord, Lord Lexden, to ...

Lord Tyler | 742 cc480-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened carefully to the eloquent case made by my noble friend Lord Lexden, but I wa...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 742 cc482-3 (Link to this contribution)

Lord Anderson of Swansea:

My Lords, as one would expect, the noble Lord, Lord Lexden, made ...

Lord Deben | 742 cc483-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intervene having heard the three previous speeches. First, to listen to a strong advo...

Lord Wills | 742 cc484-5 (Link to this contribution)

I address myself briefly to the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Deben, with which I largely agree...

Lord Norton of Louth | 742 cc485-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will assume it is a case of leaving the best till last. I very much agree with the po...

Lord Flight | 742 c486 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendments. I have lived as an expatriate and, unless you h...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 742 cc486-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend who moved this amendment is a historian, and I wish to add a historical...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 742 cc487-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an interesting debate. I realise that a lot of people here are actually w...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 cc488-490 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for this wide-ranging debate. The amendments in this group seek...

Lord Lexden | 742 c490 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had a useful and productive debate on an issue of international as well as nati...

Lord Hart of Chilton | 742 c490 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Hart of Chilton

28A: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—<...

Lord Hill of Oareford | 742 cc490-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I think everyone already knows, I have received advice from the Public Bill Office t...

Lord Hart of Chilton | 742 cc492-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should like to make one preliminary point which is to repeat that, in intending movin...

Lord Elton | 742 c495 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I really was up first and I merely want to ask the noble Lord this question. He has mad...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 742 c495 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I appreciate that this is of great interest to many noble Lords in the House. I remind ...

Lord Elton | 742 c495 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord has made a moving, interesting and in some ways compelling speech, but h...

742 c495 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord does not have to reply.

Lord Hart of Chilton | 742 c495 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I shall. The relevance comes as a result of the Boundary Commission’s work deciding numbers...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 742 c495 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for getting the procedure wrong. My point was rather similar to my noble fr...

Lord Hart of Chilton | 742 c496 (Link to this contribution)

I explained, I hope, a moment ago why what I am saying is relevant to the particular proposals of...

Lord Rennard | 742 c496 (Link to this contribution)

The four Members from different parts of the House who signed the amendment may all have slightly...

Lord Naseby | 742 c496 (Link to this contribution)

As a former leader of the London Borough of Islington, which is very similar to Lambeth, I can sa...

Lord Rennard | 742 c496 (Link to this contribution)

Those of us who have followed in great detail the Committee proceedings on this Bill will know th...

Lord Cormack | 742 c497 (Link to this contribution)

Was it this purity of motive that provoked the Deputy Prime Minister to make his off-the-cuff sta...

Lord Rennard | 742 c497 (Link to this contribution)

The Deputy Prime Minister’s statement on 6 August was clearly not off the cuff and noble Lords to...

Baroness Browning | 742 c497 (Link to this contribution)

I am concerned at this linkage between Lords reform and the measures that the noble Lord is now e...

Lord Rennard | 742 cc497-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the constitutional package that resulted from those 22 days—or however long it was—of d...

Lord Crickhowell | 742 cc498-500 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as my noble friend the Leader of the House has reminded us, the Companion states in spe...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 742 cc500-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was sorry not to be in the House on Tuesday when tributes were paid to the departing ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 742 cc502-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was intrigued as to why the noble Lord had put his name to this amendment. I was part...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 742 c503 (Link to this contribution)

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

I certainly will not withdraw. There was a clear commitment which...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 742 cc503-4 (Link to this contribution)

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

I know that noble Lords opposite are thinking back to Mr James Ca...

Lord Wigley | 742 cc504-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as one of the four Members whose name is attached to the amendment, I am aware of the f...

Lord Dobbs | 742 c506 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Rennard, has said, this matter involves many different aspects,...

Lord Dobbs | 742 c506 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, annual suffrage, a secret ballot and, goodness me, equal constituencies. I would have been p...

Lord Dobbs | 742 c508 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very interesting question.

Noble Lords will remember that it was to do with the l...

Baroness Browning | 742 c508 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. A section of David Laws’s book is relevant to what my noble friend has just said. In the neg...

Lord Dobbs | 742 cc508-510 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend for that intervention. There are so many quotes that one could b...

Baroness Boothroyd | 742 c510 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I have been mentioned in earlier exchanges, perhaps I might have a word, which will ...

Lord Lipsey | 742 cc510-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief but I want to make one point on admissibility before turning to my main...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c512 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not know whether people think it is time to draw the debate towards a close.

Lord King of Bridgwater | 742 cc512-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I suspect that I am not the only Member of this House who finds this a thoroughly unatt...

Lord Martin of Springburn | 742 c514 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, received advice from the clerks of the House and I valued it. At the end of the...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 742 c515 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord. Could he, with his experience as Speaker in the other place...

Lord Martin of Springburn | 742 c515 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is quite right. However, it is not only the Speaker who gets advice from the clerk...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 742 c515 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that it is the general mood of the House that it is time to hear from the noble...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 cc515-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am obliged to the Chief Whip. Amendments are admissible in this House if they are, to...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 cc516-7 (Link to this contribution)

I will take interventions when I have finished this part of my speech.

The correct approach...

Lord True | 742 c517 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it was on this point that I had wished to intervene from the perspective of someone who...

Lord True | 742 c517 (Link to this contribution)

We are in Committee, my Lords. Is it not the case that our clerks are uniquely experienced and un...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c518 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not suggesting a new and revolutionary approach. There is one group of people—name...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 742 c518 (Link to this contribution)

The noble and learned Lord keeps citing the 1968 case. Is it not true that Lord Goodman then with...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c518 (Link to this contribution)

He withdrew his amendment at the end of the debate, making it absolutely clear that there was no ...

Lord Wills | 742 c518 (Link to this contribution)

Very briefly on this point of relevance, perhaps I may draw the attention of my noble and learned...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 cc518-9 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know if your Lordships have noticed, but it is my personal view that this is an admissib...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 742 cc519-520 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have thought hard if not long about how to respond to the debate on the amendment mov...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c520 (Link to this contribution)

I think it is clear from the wording of the Act that, as a result of the amendment, if there was ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 742 cc520-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am reassured that the noble and learned Lord makes that point, but that means that this particu...

Lord Rooker | 742 c522 (Link to this contribution)

With respect, the Minister has now said, on about three or four occasions, that we are tying the ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 742 c522 (Link to this contribution)

That is perfectly correct. I was just asking noble Lords to consider where that puts this House i...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 742 c522 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, how would the reputation of this House be damaged if the other place decided to follow ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 742 c522 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it would be because we will have shown that we are not in a position to take advice fro...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 742 cc522-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is indisputable that the amendment is inadmissible. The House may overrule that, but it is ina...

Lord Hart of Chilton | 742 c523 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened carefully to all the arguments put in this debate. I am afraid that I d...

Lord Rennard | 742 c527 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Rennard

39: Schedule 4, page 21, line 23, leave out “, so far as is rea...

Lord Rennard | 742 cc527-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, our Amendment 39 seeks to resolve concerns raised by the Electoral Commission that the ...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 cc528-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have two amendments in this group. They chime with the point that the noble Lord, Lo...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 cc529-530 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I thank my noble friend for raising the issue of the general duty on registratio...

Lord Rennard | 742 c530 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his assurances that there is no intention whatever to weaken t...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c530 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Falconer of Thoroton

39B: Schedule 4, page 21, line 26, at end insert—<...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 cc530-1 (Link to this contribution)

This amendment seeks to put an additional duty on electoral registration officers. Tackling elect...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c531 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 39B would require electoral registration officers to report to the police any...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c531 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his reply. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

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Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c531 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

40: Schedule 4, page 22, line 20, at end insert—

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Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 cc531-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 44 and 46. These amendments are all technical and cons...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c532 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

41: Schedule 4, page 23, line 15, leave out “In sect...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c532 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 42. These are minor amendments and are intended to ensu...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c532 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment sounds reasonable. Am I right in saying that there will now be no time li...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c533 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that I am getting into slightly technical territory, but my understanding is th...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c533 (Link to this contribution)

That is incredibly helpful. I am more than happy to see the 14 days go. The consequence is that, ...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c533 (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to confirm to the noble and learned Lord that that is the case.

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c533 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

42: Schedule 4, page 23, line 23, at end insert—

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Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c533 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

44A: Schedule 4, page 24, line 26, leave out “must r...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 cc533-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a minor and technical amendment to the Bill. It ensures that there is no ambigu...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c534 (Link to this contribution)

I feel sorry for the Minister because this is rather a complicated amendment. It was presented as...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c534 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that the key phrase in the amendment is the reference back to paragraph 1, but its p...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c535 (Link to this contribution)

I am perfectly content with that answer. Perhaps the Minister could have somebody write a little ...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 c535 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gardiner of Kimble

45: Schedule 4, page 25, line 24, at end insert—

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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c535 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Falconer of Thoroton

47: Schedule 5, page 27, line 21, at end insert—

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 cc535-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment—if it was passed— requires the Government to report to Parliament annual...

Lord Norton of Louth | 742 c536 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a slight problem with the amendment moved by the noble and learned Lord. I may h...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c536 (Link to this contribution)

One would hope so. I do not know how long the transition is going to take. It is clear from the w...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 742 cc536-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord for his amendment requiring an annual report to ...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c537 (Link to this contribution)

The effect of my amendment would be that the report to Parliament annually, within two months of ...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c537 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Falconer of Thoroton

48: Schedule 5, page 27, line 31, leave out “first...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c537 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 48, 49 and 51 deal with this particular issue. We know that even though ther...

Lord Rennard | 742 cc538-540 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak first to Amendment 58 in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Tyler. ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 742 cc540-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is no question of inadmissibility for these amendments. Indeed, questions were ra...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 742 c542 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for that comprehensive reply. Two things go through my mind. First,...

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