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Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 10 December 2012, in the House of Lords.
Clauses 14 to 19 agreed to, with clause 15 agreed to as amended. Schedule 3 agreed to.
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Parliamentary proceeding
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741 cc237-274GC 
Session
2012-13
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill 2012-13. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 18 October 2012
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Geddes | 741 c237GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as is usual on these occasions, I have to advise the Grand Committee that if there is a...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c237GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

20L: Clause 14, page 10, line 14, at end ins...


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Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc237-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 14 gives tribunals powers to impose a financial penalty on an employer who is in...

Baroness Brinton | 741 cc239-240GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome Clause 14, which inserts new Section 12A, but would like to assert the import...

Lord Marland | 741 cc240-1GC (Link to this contribution)

Good afternoon, my Lords. I hope that your Lordships all had a good weekend break. I am very grat...

Baroness Brinton | 741 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

I ask for some clarification. The Minister said that the tribunal judge will obviously have a dis...

Lord Marland | 741 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

We will pick that up in another part of the Bill, on the award, where the penalty is 50% of the a...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, for her support. I find it hard to thank the Minister b...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c242GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

20M: Clause 14, page 10, leave out lines 20 to 2...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c242GC (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 20M would remove the requirement that a financial penalty be set at 50% of the amount o...

Lord Marland | 741 cc242-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an amendment that my noble friend Lady Brinton was also alluding to. It is a ve...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c243GC (Link to this contribution)

I asked what would be considered an aggravating feature and about the impact it might have on the...

Lord Marland | 741 c243GC (Link to this contribution)

That is a perfectly reasonable question, and I know that the noble Lord is asking me a question t...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c243GC (Link to this contribution)

Such cynicism so early in the day. All I can say is that we will take into account the Minister’s...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c243GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

20MA: Clause 14, page 11, line 9, at end insert—...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 cc243-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 20MA and 20MB are intended to probe the definition of aggravating features—I...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 741 cc244-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that the Government will see fit to accept the amendment, because I should have ...

Lord Marland | 741 c245GC (Link to this contribution)

Lord Marland:

First, I would like to make a couple of points on training, which is o...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c245GC (Link to this contribution)

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

The Minister has still not addressed our main concern. I do no...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c246GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

20N: Clause 14, page 11, line 47, at end insert—...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c246GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 20N follows on from the previous amendment in that it also deals with unpaid ...

Lord Marland | 741 cc246-7GC (Link to this contribution)

Of course we are in great harmony, even though I am sure I shall have it thrown back in my face. ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the invitation to discuss the issue with the Minister following the consultat...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

20P: Clause 14, page 11, line 47, at end insert—...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment follows on from the previous amendment and provides for the tribunal, wh...

Lord Marland | 741 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

Again, I think that I largely responded to this amendment in my comments on the previous amendmen...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that that leaves us in the same situation we were in on the previous amendment ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c248GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

20Q: Clause 15, page 12, line 4, leave out from ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 cc248-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment is an alternative to the public interest test proposed by the Government....

Lord Marland | 741 cc249-250GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been very interested in the whole discussion on whistleblowing. I thank the nobl...

Lord Borrie | 741 c250GC (Link to this contribution)

It is hardly for me to criticise when the Minister has quoted from a speech of mine in the most f...

Lord Marland | 741 c250GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise. Of course, the noble Lord’s wisdom had been honed even further by 1998, which gives ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c250GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his response. We will read Hansard carefully to see whether we need to r...

Lord Marland | 741 c250GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marland

21: Clause 15, page 12, line 5, at end insert —

“(2) Sect...

Lord Marland | 741 c251GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, government Amendment 21 aims to ensure that the right people are covered by the whistle...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 741 cc251-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand from the Government’s statement and from what the Minister has said that t...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 741 cc252-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the margins of the debate that we have just had the Minister very kindly passed acro...

Lord Marland | 741 c253GC (Link to this contribution)

I am always available for side meetings to discuss this. I think that the noble Lord, Lord Steven...

Lord Geddes | 741 c253GC (Link to this contribution)

As is normal on these occasions, we take it strictly by the order of the Marshalled List. The que...

Lord Touhig | 741 c254GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Touhig

22: After Clause 15, insert the following new Clause—

“Dut...

Lord Touhig | 741 cc254-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Wills, the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, and o...

Lord Wills | 741 c255GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 22, to which I have added my name and which has been so ably put fo...

Lord Low of Dalston | 741 c256GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to the amendment but I do not think I can say a lot more than has ...

Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde | 741 c256GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support what has been said by the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, who happens to be ...

Baroness Brinton | 741 c256GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my support to Amendments 22 and 23E for all the reasons already stated. It is unf...

Lord Borrie | 741 c257GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for not being here earlier when the subject of whistleblowing obviously came up in di...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 741 c257GC (Link to this contribution)

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville:

My Lords, I have no idea what the Minister is going to sa...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 cc258-9GC (Link to this contribution)

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

My Lords, I, too, support the thrust of what my noble friends ...

Lord Marland | 741 cc259-260GC (Link to this contribution)

Again, we are extremely sympathetic towards and supportive of each other. It is not just the Cros...

Lord Wills | 741 c260GC (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister clarify something for me? I am very grateful for his openness and willingness to...

Lord Marland | 741 c260GC (Link to this contribution)

I do not have a view because I do not have enough knowledge of the subject. As the noble Lord rig...

Lord Touhig | 741 c260GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions. I echo the point made by the Minister;...

Lord Touhig | 741 c261GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Touhig

23: After Clause 15, insert the following new Clause—

“Rem...

Lord Touhig | 741 cc261-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 23 is supported by my noble friends Lord Wills and Lady Dean of Thornton-le-F...

Lord Low of Dalston | 741 cc262-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support the amendment and hope that I will be worthy of the kind remarks of ...

Lord Wills | 741 cc263-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, have added my name to the amendment and would like to say just a few words in s...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c264GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak briefly to Amendments 23 and 23F, because people who are far more expert ...

Lord Skelmersdale | 741 c264GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hate to interrupt the noble Lord, Lord Young, but there is a Division in the Chamber ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c264GC (Link to this contribution)

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

I can. As I was saying, I am grateful to my noble friends Lord...

Lord Marland | 741 c265GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, a lot of what has been said was said in relation to the previous amendments. I am struc...

Lord Touhig | 741 c265GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, again, I am grateful to colleagues who took part in the debate and in particular to the...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 cc265-6GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

23A: After Clause 15, insert the following new C...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c266GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, thousands of construction workers have been secretly blacklisted and denied jobs on bui...

Baroness Donaghy | 741 cc266-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was the author of a report on construction fatalities a couple of years ago and I spe...

Lord Marland | 741 c267GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness speaks with great authority on the subject. Of course, it is a difficult grey ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

That is why I do not play poker. I am taking into account that it is a Christmas gift from the Mi...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

23B: After Clause 15, insert the following new C...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

This amendment would place a positive requirement on lawyers advising in the settlement of claims...

Lord Marland | 741 cc268-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for this probing amendment. However, I am not convinced that we need to g...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c269GC (Link to this contribution)

I will take note of what the noble Lord said and give consideration to that view to see whether w...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c269GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

23D: After Clause 15, insert the following new C...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 cc269-270GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 23D aims to improve transparency around whistleblowing cases that have been s...

Lord Borrie | 741 c270GC (Link to this contribution)

I hope the Government are positive about this amendment. Secret justice is inherently evil unless...

Lord Marland | 741 cc270-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I have a nasty feeling that I am going to disappoint the noble Lord, Lord Borrie, who of course s...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c271GC (Link to this contribution)

I cannot say we are particularly happy that Christmas has ended early with the Minister’s respons...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 741 c271GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Turner of Camden

24: Clause 16, page 12, line 15, at end insert—

Baroness Turner of Camden | 741 c271GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a fairly simple and straightforward issue. Currently, when a judge decides that...

Earl of Glasgow | 741 cc915-272GC (Link to this contribution)

The Earl of Glasgow:

I apologise for interjecting at this stage. My issue is a little bit d...

Lord Marland | 741 cc272-3GC (Link to this contribution)

Lord Marland:

I am grateful to the noble Earl for giving me advance warning that he was goi...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

Thinking that I was back in my TUC days, I was almost tempted to make a point of order. The noble...

Lord Marland | 741 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Earl gave me notice that at some point he would be raising this issue. We have debated ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 741 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

I will not pursue this further but I maintain my point. We roam far and wide in dealing with amen...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 741 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank everyone who contributed to this small debate. Of course, it is not about discrimination ...

Earl of Glasgow | 741 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for bringing it up. I tried two or three times to think of a place where I could brin...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 741 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

Certainly. As my noble friend said, if we want to have a discussion about discrimination, there w...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 741 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Wednesday at 3.45 pm...

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