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Holocaust Memorial Bill

Debate on bills and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Wednesday, 22 May 2024, in the House of Commons, led by Simon Hoare. The answering member was Peter Bottomley.
Committee stage. Clause 1, amendment 6, debated with further amendments and new clauses. Negatived on division. Clauses 1-3 agreed to. New clause 1 negatived on division (11 to 182). The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair. Bill reported without amendment. Bill, not amended in Committee, considered. Third reading. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
750 cc932-991 
Session
2023-24
Legislative stage
Committee stage and Third reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Holocaust Memorial Bill. Holocaust Memorial Bill Select Committee first special report
Wednesday, 17 April 2024
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Promoter's Response to the First Report of the Holocaust Memorial Bill Select Committee
Monday, 20 May 2024
Command papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Holocaust Memorial Bill: Business of the House
Wednesday, 22 May 2024
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 750 c934 (Link to this contribution)

I remind Members that, in Committee, Members should address the Chair not as Madam Deputy Speaker...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c934 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move amendment 6, in clause 1, page 1, line 9, at end insert—

“(d) educational pur...


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Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 750 cc934-5 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to consider:

Amendment 1, page 1, line 9, at end insert—

Peter Bottomley | 750 cc935-6 (Link to this contribution)

When someone asked me if there was going to be a general election soon, I thought they must have ...

Lia Nici | 750 c936 (Link to this contribution)

May I just clarify something that my hon. Friend has just said? He stated that £40 million has al...

Peter Bottomley | 750 cc936-7 (Link to this contribution)

I think that is the right figure, but the Minister will know. I am just a Back Bencher, and have ...

Nickie Aiken | 750 c937 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Father of the House for giving way. He is making an important point about how Victori...

Peter Bottomley | 750 cc937-8 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. She has the advantage of having led Westminster City Council and will no...

Edward Leigh | 750 c938 (Link to this contribution)

We could have had a fantastic, beautiful, moving memorial—roughly the same size as the Buxton mem...

Peter Bottomley | 750 cc938-9 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is right, and most people will agree with him, even if their job is to stand...

Wera Hobhouse | 750 c939 (Link to this contribution)

Excuse me, Madam Chair, but I wish to speak only on Third Reading.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 750 c939 (Link to this contribution)

Certainly—I was calling the hon. Lady because she is the only Member on the Opposition Back Bench...

John Stevenson | 750 cc939-941 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Dame Eleanor. I wish to speak to amendment 1 and new clause 1 and take the opportunity...

Nickie Aiken | 750 c941 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that there is a serious issue regarding the security of Victoria Tower ...

John Stevenson | 750 c941 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Security issues should be one of our key considerations as a ...

Andrew Percy | 750 c942 (Link to this contribution)

I will address the security issue in my speech, but I think it is all the wrong way round to make...

John Stevenson | 750 c942 (Link to this contribution)

Security is one of the many considerations with regard to the site, and I think it is a valid one...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c942 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise if I am taking words out of my hon. Friend’s speech before he gets to them, but was i...

John Stevenson | 750 c942 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is exactly right—he certainly did so at that time.

I have tabled two amendme...

Nickie Aiken | 750 cc942-5 (Link to this contribution)

First, I thank the Holocaust Memorial Bill Select Committee for its very hard work. That Committe...

Lia Nici | 750 c944 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for giving way and for all her hard work campaigning on this issue. I was ...

Nickie Aiken | 750 c944 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. Having read the Select Committee’s report, it is clear t...

Richard Bacon | 750 c944 (Link to this contribution)

Has my hon. Friend had the opportunity to be in Victoria Tower Gardens on a Saturday or Sunday mo...

Nickie Aiken | 750 cc944-6 (Link to this contribution)

I have seen that. It goes back to the point that for many of us in this Chamber this is a workpla...

Jonathan Edwards | 750 c946 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady her for her amendment, which I am happy to support. Members of the Buxton f...

Nickie Aiken | 750 cc946-7 (Link to this contribution)

I did not realise the family connection with the hon. Gentleman’s constituency. The Buxton memori...

Simon Hoare | 750 c947 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful point, characteristically both passionate and knowledgeable, ...

Nickie Aiken | 750 c947 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that clarification. I absolutely welcome that. That is a very powerful m...

Simon Hoare | 750 c947 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is being generous with her time. It is not—

Simon Hoare | 750 c947 (Link to this contribution)

I am not entirely sure what has amused my hon. Friend the Member for South Norfolk (Mr Bacon), bu...

Nickie Aiken | 750 c947 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister once again for that very clear steer and clarification.

Peter Bottomley | 750 c947 (Link to this contribution)

It may be too late for a manuscript amendment to the Bill to be accepted by Dame Eleanor—or Madam...

Nickie Aiken | 750 c947 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend, the Father of the House, for his intervention. He makes a very clear poin...

Andrew Percy | 750 c948 (Link to this contribution)

On this whole question of precedent, as anybody who has served any period of time as a local gove...

Nickie Aiken | 750 cc948-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. He may recall that the planning authority chose to n...

Lia Nici | 750 c949 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that that that cost is just one example of a system that does not work ...

Nickie Aiken | 750 cc949-950 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree. Many of my constituents feel that this is being steamrollered and imposed on ...

Rachel Maclean | 750 cc950-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow right hon. and hon. Members, who have made very important and serious ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 750 c951 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I appreciate that the hon. Lady is dealing with a highly emotive subject, and I think that...

Rachel Maclean | 750 c951 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Chairman. I appreciate and value your guidance and I will absolutely abide by it...

Bob Blackman | 750 cc952-3 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the Bill in its entirety and against the amendments, which I think will only de...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c953 (Link to this contribution)

The point my hon. Friend is making now was not one put forward by the commission, and it was not ...

Bob Blackman | 750 cc953-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Father of the House for that intervention. It is clear that the site was chosen by th...

Edward Leigh | 750 c954 (Link to this contribution)

From visiting really serious Holocaust museums, as I have done in Washington and Berlin, I know t...

Bob Blackman | 750 c954 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for that contribution. I am one of those who visited the original Ya...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c954 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to be nit-picking, but the southern part of the park is a children’s playground. Al...

Bob Blackman | 750 cc955-6 (Link to this contribution)

We can debate whether the figure is 7.5% or 10%, but the key point is that more than 90% of the p...

Andrew Percy | 750 cc956-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman). Given the n...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c957 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way and glad to be hearing what he is saying, both giv...

Andrew Percy | 750 c959 (Link to this contribution)

They are indeed—it is a brilliant presentation. I am also very proud that every Holocaust Memoria...

Andrew Percy | 750 cc959-960 (Link to this contribution)

East, of course—as someone from East Yorkshire, I say east is always best. My hon. Friend the Mem...

Nigel Evans | 750 c960 (Link to this contribution)

As Members know, everything must conclude by six minutes past 7, and I want to give at least eigh...

Michael Ellis | 750 cc960-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Brigg and Goole (Andrew Percy). If...

Michael Ellis | 750 cc962-3 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me.

The Jewish people in this country are a very small minority. There are many con...

Philip Dunne | 750 cc963-4 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of this Bill and against the amendments, however nobly argued and well...

Philip Dunne | 750 c964 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I will not give way, because I have already extended the patience of the Chairman.

Edward Leigh | 750 cc964-6 (Link to this contribution)

I know that everybody is glued to their mobile phones about the announcement of the general elect...

Nigel Evans | 750 c966 (Link to this contribution)

Order. As I said, the conclusion of the debate is at six minutes past seven. There is clearly a b...

Kirsten Oswald | 750 cc966-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this debate on behalf of the SNP. It is perhaps slightly unexpected ...

Matthew Pennycook | 750 cc968-9 (Link to this contribution)

Before I begin my brief remarks about the amendments, let me restate the Opposition’s support for...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c970 (Link to this contribution)

There are two sides to this issue, one of which people will accept that the hon. Gentleman is spe...

Matthew Pennycook | 750 c970 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Father of the House for his intervention. I certainly agree that that is one of many ...

Simon Hoare | 750 cc970-2 (Link to this contribution)

Today in this Chamber, we have been united on the welcome return of my hon. Friend the Member for...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c971 (Link to this contribution)

I doubt the Minister intends to be the first to accuse me of waving a white flag on anything. I p...

Simon Hoare | 750 cc971-3 (Link to this contribution)

Let me say to my hon. Friend that there is no reason for use of the park to be disrupted. I am af...

Edward Leigh | 750 c973 (Link to this contribution)

Where we are sitting is an armed fortress—we cannot go anywhere without seeing policemen with sub...

Simon Hoare | 750 c973 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend raises a valid point. That is absolutely at the kernel of the plans on which...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c973 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will the Minister give way?

Simon Hoare | 750 c973 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend allow to make this important point, knowing the seriousness with which he tak...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c974 (Link to this contribution)

I do not dispute what the Minister has just said, but previously he quoted the planning inspector...

Simon Hoare | 750 cc974-5 (Link to this contribution)

The planning inspector did the work that statute places upon them, to allow them to make a clear ...

John Stevenson | 750 c975 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister not share my concerns about costs? It was £50 million in 2015. It is now estima...

Simon Hoare | 750 c975 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right, and I will thank him properly on Third Reading, but may I just put on re...

Bob Blackman | 750 c975 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will clearly be aware that when the original proposals were put forward back in 20...

Simon Hoare | 750 cc975-6 (Link to this contribution)

In broad terms, my hon. Friend is absolutely right in the way that he sets out how these things w...

Nickie Aiken | 750 c976 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister makes an important point about how important it is to be able to have a moment of re...

Simon Hoare | 750 c976 (Link to this contribution)

Let me say this to my hon. Friend: before coming to this place, I heard in my professional life—I...

Simon Hoare | 750 c976 (Link to this contribution)

Let me finish this point, and then of course I will. My hon. Friend the Member for Worthing West ...

Simon Hoare | 750 c977 (Link to this contribution)

We will have no heckling from the SNP, thank you very much. It is where the throne sits. It is wh...

Simon Hoare | 750 c977 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to give way to a Tory.

Peter Bottomley | 750 c977 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Sir Roger. There are only two minutes left, and I had hoped to wind up the d...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 750 c977 (Link to this contribution)

I just wanted to point out that I was listening to my hon. Friend the Member for Worthing West (S...

Simon Hoare | 750 c977 (Link to this contribution)

I would have thanked my right hon. Friend for that intervention, but now I do not think that I wi...

Peter Bottomley | 750 c977 (Link to this contribution)

If the figure spent already is £18 million and not £40 million, I accept that from the Minister, ...

Simon Hoare | 750 cc980-2 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

Mr Deputy Speaker, may I begin by ...

Simon Hoare | 750 cc982-3 (Link to this contribution)

In that case, I will not let the hon. Lady intervene. [Interruption.] Who was that? My hon. Frien...

Matthew Pennycook | 750 cc983-4 (Link to this contribution)

I start by thanking the Clerks, the House staff and Library specialists for facilitating our deba...

Roger Gale | 750 c984 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Father of the House.

7.44 pm

Peter Bottomley | 750 cc984-5 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the hon. Member for Bath (Wera Hobhouse) will need to get in, so I will try not to sa...

Wera Hobhouse | 750 cc985-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful for the opportunity to contribute to the debate, and I am grateful to the...

Steve Brine | 750 cc986-7 (Link to this contribution)

I listened very carefully to the speech by my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Northa...

Richard Graham | 750 c987 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend accept that there are some of us who feel absolutely as passionately as he an...

Steve Brine | 750 c987 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. The one thing I know from my 14 years and counting in this House is that their lordships loo...

Kirsten Oswald | 750 cc987-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad to be able to contribute today on behalf of my party on this important Bill, albeit tha...

Bob Blackman | 750 cc988-990 (Link to this contribution)

In the short time available, we should remember that the Holocaust represents the darkest hour in...

Philip Dunne | 750 c990 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Minister, my hon. Friend the Member for North Dorset (Simon Hoare), on his tou...

Roger Gale | 750 c990 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am sorry to have to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman—there will be an opportunity to r...

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