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Victims and Prisoners Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 15 May 2023, in the House of Commons, led by Alex Chalk. The answering member was Steve Reed.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion. Agreed to on question. Money resolution. King's recommendation signified. Agreed to on question. Carry over motion. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
732 cc583-667 
Session
2022-23
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Pre-legislative scrutiny of the draft Victims Bill. Justice Committee second report.
Wednesday, 21 September 2022
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Pre-legislative scrutiny of the draft Victims Bill: Government response to the Committee’s second report of session 2022-23. Justice Committee eighth special report.
Tuesday, 17 January 2023
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Victims and Prisoners Bill 2022-23
Wednesday, 29 March 2023
Bills
House of Commons
Victims and Prisoners Bill.
Tuesday, 9 May 2023
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons

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Deposited Paper DEP2023-0500
Wednesday, 7 June 2023
Deposited papers
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Alex Chalk | 732 cc583-4 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

Some years ago, shortly before I en...

Bob Stewart | 732 c584 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for introducing the Bill. As an MP, I have heard so many complaint...


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Alex Chalk | 732 c584 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my right hon. Friend. That is exactly the point. If victims are to be not s...

Stephanie Peacock | 732 c584 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will the Secretary of State give way?

Alex Chalk | 732 c584 (Link to this contribution)

Can I just make a bit of progress?

Before I return to the key elements I mentioned a few mo...

Alex Chalk | 732 c584 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to the hon. Lady in one moment.

The revised victims code, published in 2020, co...

Stephanie Peacock | 732 c584 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way. My constituent Johnny Wood feels he ...

Alex Chalk | 732 c585 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the hon. Lady for raising that important case on behalf of her constituent....

Jess Phillips | 732 c585 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. and learned Gentleman talks about what was enshrined in the code, which he said ha...

Alex Chalk | 732 c585 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady should not have found out in a newspaper. She should have been kept updated and inf...

Alex Chalk | 732 c586 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make a little progress.

As I indicated, the Bill will make sure that everyone knows ...

Rachael Maskell | 732 c586 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way. The family of Declan Curran, who tragical...

Alex Chalk | 732 c586 (Link to this contribution)

It is incredibly important that child victims receive the support that they need, and that should...

Priti Patel | 732 c586 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Lord Chancellor provide the House with slightly more detail on the commissioning function...

Alex Chalk | 732 c587 (Link to this contribution)

I begin by thanking my right hon. Friend for her stalwart commitment to the rights of victims. I ...

Christine Jardine | 732 c587 (Link to this contribution)

Many of us welcomed this Bill and hoped it would transform and revolutionise the response, but it...

Alex Chalk | 732 c587 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the hon. Lady’s overall enthusiasm for the Bill. On that specific point, one of the thi...

Sarah Champion | 732 c588 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for the measures he has brought through on third party disclosures...

Alex Chalk | 732 c588 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady does an important public service in raising that point and I thank her for doing so...

Maria Eagle | 732 c588 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman give way?

Alex Chalk | 732 cc588-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will just develop the point and then of course I will let the right hon. Lady come in.

Fr...

Maria Eagle | 732 c589 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the right hon. and learned Gentleman to his new role. I wonder whether he will be open ...

Alex Chalk | 732 c589 (Link to this contribution)

In preparation for today’s debate, I read the right hon. Lady’s Bill and have considered it with ...

Ranil Jayawardena | 732 c589 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome my right hon. and learned Friend to his role as Lord Chancellor. I have been listening ...

Alex Chalk | 732 c589 (Link to this contribution)

There is real and clear merit in what my right hon. Friend says. Plainly, we cannot have a situat...

Stella Creasy | 732 c589 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State is making a powerful case on the role of a public advocate, which many of ...

Alex Chalk | 732 cc589-590 (Link to this contribution)

How could I not? I would be delighted to meet the hon. Lady on that important issue.

Let me...

James Gray | 732 c590 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. and learned Friend on his well-deserved appointment. My constituents...

Alex Chalk | 732 c590 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for raising that deeply upsetting and troubling case and for liaising with...

Greg Knight | 732 c590 (Link to this contribution)

On parole reform, will the factor determining whether someone is in the top-tier cohort always be...

Alex Chalk | 732 c590 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to those points in a moment, but it is broadly to do with the offences.

Liz Saville Roberts | 732 c591 (Link to this contribution)

Applications can now be made for Parole Board hearings to be held in public, but as Gwynedd resid...

Alex Chalk | 732 c591 (Link to this contribution)

There is now a power for hearings to be held in public, but it depends on the facts of the indivi...

Alistair Carmichael | 732 c591 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Secretary of State give way?

Alex Chalk | 732 c591 (Link to this contribution)

I will make a bit of progress and then I will of course come to the right hon. Gentleman.

A...

Julian Lewis | 732 c591 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. and learned Friend on his well-deserved promotion. I have recently b...

Alex Chalk | 732 c591 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for raising that important matter on behalf of his constituents. The...

Alistair Carmichael | 732 c592 (Link to this contribution)

The volume and nature of the interventions on the Secretary of State show the difficulty of this ...

Alex Chalk | 732 c592 (Link to this contribution)

It is important to consider these things separately, but the right hon. Gentleman identifies some...

Edward Timpson | 732 c592 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to see my right hon. and learned Friend in his place. On the issue of the powers tak...

Alex Chalk | 732 c592 (Link to this contribution)

There is a very important distinction. When the Secretary of State considers those most serious c...

Robert Neill | 732 c593 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Alex Chalk | 732 c593 (Link to this contribution)

Oh, here we go. Yes, of course I will.

Robert Neill | 732 c593 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my right hon. and learned Friend, whom I warmly welcome to his place, for g...

Alex Chalk | 732 c593 (Link to this contribution)

May I thank my hon. Friend, and say that I have read every word of that important evidence to the...

Jess Phillips | 732 c594 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree with the right hon. and learned Gentleman more. What I would also ask is that p...

Alex Chalk | 732 c594 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Lady knows, we have discussed these issues at some length in a different context, and...

Caroline Dinenage | 732 c594 (Link to this contribution)

This is a really excellent piece of legislation, and I congratulate the Secretary of State and hi...

Alex Chalk | 732 cc594-5 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an incredibly important point. She mentions Hope Street, and the Nelson Trus...

Lindsay Hoyle | 732 c595 (Link to this contribution)

I call the shadow Secretary of State.

4.20 pm

Steve Reed | 732 cc595-6 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Secretary of State on his appointment. I am sure all of us, in all parts of th...

Richard Foord | 732 c597 (Link to this contribution)

On the hon. Member’s point about victims of rape who have been let down, does he consider that th...

Steve Reed | 732 c597 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Member for his intervention. He makes an important point. That is one o...

Sarah Champion | 732 c597 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that not only does the Bill let down victims of antisocial behaviour, b...

Steve Reed | 732 c598 (Link to this contribution)

As is so frequently the case, my hon. Friend makes an important and apt point. I hope that we wil...

Sarah Champion | 732 c598 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure my hon. Friend welcomes the section 28 measures that came in recently, which allow pre-...

Steve Reed | 732 cc598-600 (Link to this contribution)

Once again, my hon. Friend raises an important point that needs to be taken into account fully, n...

Robert Neill | 732 cc600-2 (Link to this contribution)

I start by warmly welcoming my right hon. and learned Friend to his position, to which nobody in ...

Sarah Champion | 732 c602 (Link to this contribution)

In his role as Chair of the Justice Committee, the hon. Gentleman has done some remarkable work o...

Robert Neill | 732 cc602-5 (Link to this contribution)

The short answer is that none has come to my attention or that of the Committee. We did endeavour...

John McDonnell | 732 c605 (Link to this contribution)

I speak as an old boy of the Justice Committee. I do not want to rehearse the debate we had only ...

Robert Neill | 732 cc605-6 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is entirely right and I agree with him. We are in a hopeless situation a...

Maria Eagle | 732 cc606-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Sir Robert Neill), the Ch...

Sarah Champion | 732 c607 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has been an amazing campaigner on this, but does she agree that one of the commona...

Maria Eagle | 732 cc607-611 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is correct. Where that does happen, if there is no accountability for what goes wr...

Priti Patel | 732 cc611-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a real pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Garston and Halewood (Maria Eagle), and...

Robert Buckland | 732 c612 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for her kind words. It indeed was a pleasure to work closel...

Priti Patel | 732 cc612-6 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my right hon. and learned Friend. There is always more that we can do in ...

Jonathan Edwards | 732 cc616-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak on Second Reading. I commend right hon. and hon. Members for the contri...

Maria Miller | 732 cc619-621 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to speak in this debate. I warmly welcome the Bill, and in advance I thank...

Jess Phillips | 732 cc621-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Basingstoke (Dame Maria Miller). I fully bac...

Maria Miller | 732 c624 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the hon. Lady is saying about the availability of ISVAs in her area and about their o...

Jess Phillips | 732 c624 (Link to this contribution)

In fact, my area was the first in the west midlands to have ISVAs in a hospital, the Queen Elizab...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 732 c624 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Let us just rewind to “whatever”.

Jess Phillips | 732 cc624-5 (Link to this contribution)

Whatever we call them this week, Madam Deputy Speaker.

The vast majority of those bodies do...

Kevin Foster | 732 cc625-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in the debate, and to follow the hon. Member for Birmingham, Yardley (J...

Apsana Begum | 732 cc628-631 (Link to this contribution)

It is with profound sadness that I express my devastation at the recent murder of my constituent ...

Rob Butler | 732 cc630-5 (Link to this contribution)

That was a very sobering speech from the hon. Member for Poplar and Limehouse (Apsana Begum). It ...

Kim Leadbeater | 732 cc633-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased that we are finally debating the long-awaited victims Bill today. Since I was electe...

Kate Kniveton | 732 cc637-8 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of the Bill. I welcome the Government’s commitment to improving suppor...

Sarah Champion | 732 c638 (Link to this contribution)

In 2013, I first met Claire Waxman. She is now the Victims’ Commissioner for London, but then she...

Liz Saville Roberts | 732 c638 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to name my predecessor, Elfyn Llwyd, who was very successful in...

Sarah Champion | 732 cc638-641 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the right hon. Lady for putting that on the record and naming the former ri...

Mark Fletcher | 732 cc641-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Rotherham (Sarah Champion) and indeed to follow my...

Stella Creasy | 732 cc644-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a genuine pleasure to take part in the debate, which is increasingly becoming an example of...

Nickie Aiken | 732 cc649-650 (Link to this contribution)

Before I start my speech, may I take a moment to pay tribute and respect to Lord Peter Brooke of ...

Janet Daby | 732 cc650-3 (Link to this contribution)

Like the hon. Member for Cities of London and Westminster (Nickie Aiken), I would like to send my...

Liz Saville Roberts | 732 cc653-5 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, welcome the introduction of this Bill in so far as it enshrines victims’ rights in law. R...

Rosie Duffield | 732 cc655-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to follow so many great speeches in this debate.

I personally do not love...

Layla Moran | 732 cc656-8 (Link to this contribution)

At the outset, I would like to say that the Liberal Democrats are of course pleased that we are d...

Anna McMorrin | 732 cc658-661 (Link to this contribution)

First of all, I pay tribute to all those who have spoken in this important debate. We have heard ...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 732 c661 (Link to this contribution)

Before I call the Minister, I want to say how important it is for those who have participated in ...

Edward Argar | 732 cc661-3 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. It is a pleasure to deliver the closing speech in this Second Re...

Edward Argar | 732 c663 (Link to this contribution)

I will, very briefly. There are a number of colleagues to whom I want to respond.

Sarah Champion | 732 c663 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise and truly respect the work that the Minister did in his last role as victims Minister...

Edward Argar | 732 cc663-5 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady and I have worked together in the past, and I thank her for her intervention. I wil...

Rob Butler | 732 c665 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Edward Argar | 732 cc665-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will make a little progress, as I want to speak for roughly the same amount of time as the shad...

Julian Lewis | 732 c666 (Link to this contribution)

Among the long list of points the Minister addressed, I did not hear the one about murderers who ...

Edward Argar | 732 c666 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for that. My understanding is that that would probably not ...

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