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Leaving the EU: Parliamentary Vote

e-petition debate on Monday, 11 June 2018, in the House of Commons, led by Liz Twist. The answering member was Suella Braverman.
Motion that this House has considered e-petition 205169 relating to Parliament's vote on the deal for UK's exit from the EU. Agreed to on question. Sitting adjourned without Question put.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
642 cc245-278WH 
Session
2017-19
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
Proceeding contributions
Liz Twist | 642 c245WH (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered e-petition 205169 relating to Parliament’s vo...

Anneliese Dodds | 642 c245WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for the speech she is making and to the petitioners for raising t...


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Liz Twist | 642 cc245-7WH (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I agree with my hon. Friend, and I will touch on that point later in my speech.

If the...

Chris Green | 642 c247WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Austin, and to follow the hon. Member for B...

Peter Grant | 642 c247WH (Link to this contribution)

Out of the 17.4 million people who voted to leave the European Union, how many put on the ballot ...

Chris Green | 642 c247WH (Link to this contribution)

In the run-up to the referendum, it was abundantly clear from leave and remain campaigners, inclu...

Peter Grant | 642 c248WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Chris Green | 642 c248WH (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not take too many interventions. I do not know how many sub-clauses there were in the ...

Colin Clark | 642 c248WH (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will my hon. Friend give way?

Colin Clark | 642 c248WH (Link to this contribution)

There was a 72% turnout in the 2016 referendum. At the last election, the Labour party and the Co...

Chris Green | 642 c248WH (Link to this contribution)

I do to some extent, but we have a healthy democracy and the debate carries on. E-petitions are a...

Chris Green | 642 c248WH (Link to this contribution)

For example, if the Liberal Democrats had won the 2017 general election with an overwhelming land...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 c248WH (Link to this contribution)

Given that we have introduced referendums into our parliamentary system, is it not the whole poin...

Chris Green | 642 cc248-9WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes an important point about clarity and what people were voting for. We could de...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 c249WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the petitioners for bringing this debate to the House. It is a good debate to have. I hav...

Chris Green | 642 c249WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady think that everyone who voted in the alternative vote referendum fully underst...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 c249WH (Link to this contribution)

When a referendum result is so close, as was the case with the Brexit vote, and so crucial for th...

Chris Green | 642 c249WH (Link to this contribution)

After the last referendum, we waited more than 40 years for the 2016 referendum. How frequent sho...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 c250WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman addresses an important debate: what is the lifetime of a referendum? When can ...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 c250WH (Link to this contribution)

I hope the hon. Gentleman will let me make a little progress.

We are stuck with a decision ...

Colin Clark | 642 c250WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making a powerful speech, but referendums hold a very strange place in the Briti...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 cc250-1WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention, but I do not believe that a discussion on the B...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 c251WH (Link to this contribution)

I would like to make some progress.

Who in 2016 mentioned Euratom, REACH—the registration, ...

Catherine West | 642 c251WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to contribute to the debate under your chairmanship, Mr Austin. It is also a ple...

Chris Green | 642 c251WH (Link to this contribution)

When we look at our high streets, we are looking at our shops. Does what is happening reflect the...

Catherine West | 642 cc251-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for his intervention. I am sure it reflects trends such as the increased ...

Colin Clark | 642 c252WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is citing specific statistics, so maybe she can answer two questions: why is employ...

Catherine West | 642 c252WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for his intervention and I am very pleased that unemployment is now about...

Chris Green | 642 c252WH (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate and recognise exactly what the hon. Lady is saying, but the strongest expression of ...

Catherine West | 642 cc252-3WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, but I am not sure that he is accurate. My understanding is...

Chris Green | 642 c254WH (Link to this contribution)

Is that the official leave campaign or another campaign?

Catherine West | 642 cc254-5WH (Link to this contribution)

That is a very good question, and I am sure that if we asked the Digital, Culture, Media and Spor...

Chris Green | 642 c255WH (Link to this contribution)

NATO is incredibly important, as are all our international relationships. In a conflict situation...

Catherine West | 642 cc255-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not think it was Mrs May or any of us who said we did not want the US to be in NATO. Unless ...

David Drew | 642 cc256-7WH (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Austin. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Mem...

Catherine West | 642 c257WH (Link to this contribution)

Given there seems to be an impasse within the Government on which direction to take, does my hon....

David Drew | 642 cc257-8WH (Link to this contribution)

That is a wonderful notion, but what will come out of the negotiations, if anything, will be a co...

Catherine West | 642 c258WH (Link to this contribution)

I share my hon. Friend’s concern about referenda. However, our result was not like the Republic o...

David Drew | 642 c258WH (Link to this contribution)

We always argue whether it is “referenda” or “referendums”, but I will stick to “referendums”. Th...

Chris Green | 642 c258WH (Link to this contribution)

On the question of 52:48, a concern would be where to draw the line. The debate on the Scottish r...

David Drew | 642 c258WH (Link to this contribution)

Of course, the Scottish referendum had a 40% benchmark, which derailed the whole process for Scot...

David Drew | 642 c259WH (Link to this contribution)

I was just on my peroration there, but I will give way.

Hugh Gaffney | 642 c259WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for giving way. I am really worried that there has been no White Paper pub...

David Drew | 642 c259WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. It would be helpful if parliamentarians had the evidence to start wi...

Tom Brake | 642 cc259-260WH (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Austin, for allowing me to make a short speech. I apologise for being in the main C...

Anneliese Dodds | 642 c260WH (Link to this contribution)

I gently point out that this debate is not on the subject of having a people’s vote, but on Parli...

Tom Brake | 642 cc260-1WH (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to do that. Of course, I think of Members of Parliament as people. Clearly we are...

Catherine West | 642 c261WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman reflect on the closeness of the original vote? A no-deal exit is so...

Tom Brake | 642 cc261-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with the hon. Lady. Members of Parliament should be offered a choice that reflec...

David Drew | 642 c262WH (Link to this contribution)

My worry is that whatever pressure we come under in this place and outside, our role in another r...

Tom Brake | 642 c262WH (Link to this contribution)

We are each entitled to our views. I do not know what level of engagement the hon. Gentleman has ...

Peter Grant | 642 cc262-3WH (Link to this contribution)

It is as pleasure to begin summing up the debate. I commend the hon. Member for Blaydon (Liz Twis...

Chris Green | 642 c263WH (Link to this contribution)

I have seen numerous clips on television and read numerous articles in which campaigners from bot...

Peter Grant | 642 cc263-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I have seen abundant statements from leading leave campaigners that said that if we left the Euro...

Chris Green | 642 c264WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Peter Grant | 642 c264WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has had enough chances to speak, between his substantive speech and his interv...

Catherine West | 642 c264WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making some very important points. Does he agree that, once we know more an...

Peter Grant | 642 cc264-5WH (Link to this contribution)

Some of the revelations of the past few days could certainly lead to that. We now need to ensure ...

Chris Green | 642 c265WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it is incumbent not only on our Government but on the European...

Peter Grant | 642 cc265-6WH (Link to this contribution)

A better way of dealing with it is for the Parliament whose job is to hold the United Kingdom Gov...

Lord Austin of Dudley | 642 c266WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. [Hon. Members: “It was outside!”] Was it? I thought it was someone’s phone in the Chamber....

Tom Brake | 642 c266WH (Link to this contribution)

Demonstrators outside are saying, “Stop Brexit!” Good timing.

Peter Grant | 642 c266WH (Link to this contribution)

They are indeed. I can speak for longer if you want, Mr Austin, but—

Lord Austin of Dudley | 642 c266WH (Link to this contribution)

I thought that was coming from someone’s phone—apologies. Had you finished?

Peter Grant | 642 c266WH (Link to this contribution)

I would love to have that on my phone, but I had finished.

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Paul Blomfield | 642 cc266-7WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to wind up the debate on behalf of the Opposition with you in the Chair, Mr Aust...

Catherine West | 642 c267WH (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend surprised that foreign direct investment has dropped by 90% from 2016 to today?...

Paul Blomfield | 642 cc267-8WH (Link to this contribution)

I am not surprised, frankly. A couple of weeks ago, I was in Strasbourg talking to colleagues fro...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 c268WH (Link to this contribution)

Does that not demonstrate that the hard Brexiteers want Brexit at any cost, including the cost of...

Paul Blomfield | 642 c268WH (Link to this contribution)

That is a point that I have made on the Floor of the House: there are those within the governing ...

Peter Grant | 642 c268WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not think it slightly ironic that the Government and their friends at the...

Paul Blomfield | 642 cc268-9WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a very fair point. There has been a series of contradictions over the ye...

Tom Brake | 642 c269WH (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman has ruled out the option of a referendum on the deal, what solution does he...

Paul Blomfield | 642 c269WH (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate the Liberal Democrats’ love of referendums, but I remind the right hon. Gentleman th...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 c269WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not think the hon. Gentleman answered my right hon. Friend’s question, so it would be nice t...

Paul Blomfield | 642 c269WH (Link to this contribution)

Let me return to the right hon. Gentleman’s question: it is not possible for us at this stage to ...

Paul Blomfield | 642 c270WH (Link to this contribution)

That was a seamless transition, Mr Davies.

The majority in Parliament respect the referendu...

Suella Braverman | 642 c270WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for Blaydon (Liz Twist) for opening and contributing to the debate on beh...

Tom Brake | 642 c270WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister feel that the events of 2016 were as real as she states if, for instance, polic...

Suella Braverman | 642 c271WH (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to comment on the speculative and hypothetical theories that are being circulated,...

Catherine West | 642 c271WH (Link to this contribution)

What does the Minister make of the 90% drop in foreign direct investment, which has been commente...

Suella Braverman | 642 c271WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady can refer to the Department for International Trade figures that I relied on, which...

Peter Grant | 642 c272WH (Link to this contribution)

Although I do not agree with that decision, I accept that that instruction was given. Can the Min...

Suella Braverman | 642 c272WH (Link to this contribution)

To me and to the millions of people who listened to any of the debate in the run-up to that impor...

Wera Hobhouse | 642 c272WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister not agree that it is in the best interests of the whole country that we come to...

Suella Braverman | 642 c273WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady’s point is inherently contradictory. On the one hand, she says, “Isn’t it important...

Tom Brake | 642 c273WH (Link to this contribution)

I believe that the Minister was a member of the European Research Group. Does she think that the ...

Suella Braverman | 642 c273WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not recognise any of the terms used by the right hon. Gentleman. I do not believe in a hard ...

Suella Braverman | 642 c273WH (Link to this contribution)

I will not, because I need to get on with my speech and I have given way many times. Those are th...

Paul Blomfield | 642 c273WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister acknowledge that when Labour, echoing the views of business, the trade unions a...

Suella Braverman | 642 cc273-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not think the Government have embraced Labour’s aspirations for a long time, and long may th...

Paul Blomfield | 642 c274WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has, on the second attempt, defined what the Government’s amendment seeks to do: to ...

Suella Braverman | 642 c274WH (Link to this contribution)

I disagree. The Hailsham amendment would set a dangerous constitutional precedent that would limi...

Catherine West | 642 c275WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister accept that such language may lead to a groundswell for a further referendum? P...

Suella Braverman | 642 c275WH (Link to this contribution)

The Government have been clear, and our amendment reiterates that clarity, that Parliament will h...

Liz Twist | 642 c275WH (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister explain what she understands by the phrase “a meaningful vote”? It seems to many...

Suella Braverman | 642 c275WH (Link to this contribution)

No, not at all. The Government amendment writes into law our existing commitment on the vote on t...

Paul Blomfield | 642 c275WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is of course right that the Government’s amendment does not remove Parliament’s powe...

Suella Braverman | 642 c275WH (Link to this contribution)

The Government will present to both Houses of Parliament the terms of the withdrawal agreement as...

Peter Grant | 642 cc275-6WH (Link to this contribution)

On 25 April, the Secretary of State gave evidence to the Exiting the European Union Committee. It...

Suella Braverman | 642 c276WH (Link to this contribution)

We have been very clear, as has Michel Barnier on behalf of the EU, that we hope that by the time...

Suella Braverman | 642 c276WH (Link to this contribution)

I will not, because I am running out of time and the hon. Member for Blaydon needs time to respon...

Liz Twist | 642 cc276-8WH (Link to this contribution)

It is my pleasure to respond on behalf of the petitioners to some of the points that have been ma...

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